Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

[SabbathBlessings]

We are sanctified by his blood ‍

Heb 5:9 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

 

[jonojim1337]

Heb 5:9 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
God's ordained His goods works the Ten Commandments that we should walk in them, through love and faith, and not be in rebellion to them Rom8:7-8 but keep His version, because He is God through our love and faith Exo20:6 John14:15 which reconciles us Rev22:14

 

[jonojim1337]

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
God's ordained His goods works the Ten Commandments that we should walk in them, through love and faith, and not be in rebellion to them Rom8:7-8 but keep His version, because He is God through our love and faith Exo20:6 John14:15 which reconciles us Rev22:14

Ok, so let’s go back to basics. There is nothing a man can do, such as observing a week day, to enter into the kingdom. He has to be born again. Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, to be born again?

And if you are born again, then you are children and hiers according to the promise, and not slaves, as if man was made for the sabbath, and not the sabbath for man.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Ok, so let’s go back to basics. There is nothing a man can do, such as observing a week day, to enter into the kingdom. He has to be born again. Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, to be born again?

And if you are born again, then you are children and hiers according to the promise, and not slaves, as if man was made for the sabbath, and not the sabbath for man.

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

 

[jonojim1337]

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

Isaiah 28:13

So then, the word of the LORD to them will become: Do this, do that, a rule for this, a rule for that; a little here, a little there— so that as they go they will fall backward; they will be injured and snared and captured.

This is the law of the flesh, of sin and death. No one who lives like this can please God.

Isaiah 64:6

Our righteousness are as filthy rags.

Whatever you do on a particular day of the week or not has no bearing in this context. We are to surrender our entire lives to God not just a week day. This is ridiculous.

And we are ONLY justified by his blood and nothing else. Did the thief on the cross that was saved observe a single week day? No, he didn’t, but he surrendered fully under the Lordship of Christ and whatever his purpose was cannot be booked into a calendar. Do not think about the morrow. And of course you shouldn’t do evil on any day.

 

[Hentenza]

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The key word is keep MY commandments. He gave us two love commandments. Your reference to 1John 2:4 is a scare tactic used by legalists to shame opponents. It’s actually weaponizing scripture to flame opponents.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

No issue since the commandments were repeated into Jesus two love commandments except for the 4th commandment which Jesus fulfilled on Himself so now we rest in Him not on a day.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Isaiah 28:13

So then, the word of the LORD to them will become: Do this, do that, a rule for this, a rule for that; a little here, a little there— so that as they go they will fall backward; they will be injured and snared and captured.

This is the law of the flesh, of sin and death. No one who lives like this can please God.

Isaiah 64:6

Our righteousness are as filthy rags.

Whatever you do on a particular day of the week or not has no bearing in this context. We are to surrender our entire lives to God not just a week day. This is ridiculous.

And we are ONLY justified by his blood and nothing else. Did the thief on the cross that was saved observe a single week day? No, he didn’t, but he surrendered fully under the Lordship of Christ and whatever his purpose was cannot be booked into a calendar. Do not think about the morrow. And of course you shouldn’t do evil on any day.

That's right, why we need to depend on God's righteousness (right and wrong doing) Psa119:172 Isa56:1-2 which is everlasting Psa119:142 and not depend on what we feel is right or wrong (our righteousness) which is as fifthly rags,.

 

[jonojim1337]

That's right, why we need to depend on God's righteousness (right and wrong doing) Psa119:172 Isa56:1-2 which is everlasting Psa119:142 and not depend on what we feel is right or wrong (our righteousness) which is as fifthly rags,.

What is it you expect me to do on the seventh day of the week? Roll my thumbs?

And what calendar are you even using are you sure it’s the right one

 

[Delvianna]

Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. - Hebrews 4:1

For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” - Hebrews 4:4

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. - Hebrews 4:9-11

The whole argument of Hebrews 4 is STILL keeping the sabbath and not doing it is linked to disobedience where you will "perish".

It comes down to this, you have to ignore this chapter in order to say keeping the sabbath doesn't matter. That is picking and choosing what you want to follow and accept. Using God's grace, or sacrifice on the cross to argue against Hebrews 4 is misunderstanding what God did and what he still expects from us. The scriptural truth has to incorporate all teachings and verses while not ignoring a single point or verse. This is why understanding context matters. The context of Hebrews 4 is obedience vs disobedience. When you introduce concepts like grace, resting in Jesus, and justification, the context of those concepts are different.

Resting in Jesus :
Matthew 11:28-29: "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls."

The context: Is talking about a general practice of seeking rest in Him for everyday trials and tribulations because the Lord can handle it. That's not the same context of the sabbath where you are required to not work. One is dealing with literal work/labor (ie: a job), the other is dealing with the souls need for peace.

Grace:
Ephesians 2:8-9: For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

The concept is, that even if we were the most obedient people on the planet, we need God's grace to forgive us from the disobedience that we've done. And since not following the sabbath is "disobedience" according to Hebrews 4, we need God's grace to forgive us of that. But then Paul argues that we don't continue in disobedience so that Grace may increase:

Romans 6:1-2: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?

So since we aren't supposed to continually live in sin (sin = disobedience 1 John 3:4), and since Jesus calls us to continue in obedience (John 14:15), we are still called to follow the Sabbath. Not doing so equals disobedience which equals death because that's not abiding in the vine (John 15:4) and are not apart of him (1 John 2:4).

 

[jonojim1337]

The whole argument of Hebrews 4 is STILL keeping the sabbath and not doing it is linked to disobedience where you will "perish".

It comes down to this, you have to ignore this chapter in order to say keeping the sabbath doesn't matter. That is picking and choosing what you want to follow and accept. Using God's grace, or sacrifice on the cross to argue against Hebrews 4 is misunderstanding what God did and what he still expects from us. The scriptural truth has to incorporate all teachings and verses while not ignoring a single point or verse. This is why understanding context matters. The context of Hebrews 4 is obedience vs disobedience. When you introduce concepts like grace, resting in Jesus, and justification, the context of those concepts are different.

Hebrews 4:7-10

2 Corinthians 6:2

What day is it again?

 

[Studyman]

As I have previously stated, there is only one true gospel and only One true Church. God said "that it's not possible to deceive His elect. And I am an elect Saint of God, so I will never be deceived by the doctrine of demons, or a false version of the gospel.

Well there you go then. You don't need Jesus or His Warnings or Peter's teaching, as you are already there, based on your own words. JW's also teach the same about themselves. Calvinists too. And Catholics, and Mormons and SDA. All claiming they live by the one true gospel and are members of the only true church as they compete against one another for contributing members.

For me, I still need Jesus and I still need His Instruction and His warnings, and the Teaching HE gave me through His Prophets and Apostles, because I am a corruptible human, surrounded by an evil world that "professes to know God" but are disobedient to Him.

"Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

It might be prudent to remind you that the "Very Elect" takes Heed of the "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that they are not deceived. You promoted this to SB. "We can only obey after we are born again and receive the Holy Spirit, and it is the Holy Spirit who leads us and enables us to obey."

Peter, in my understanding, wasn't deceived when the Spirit of Christ had him write down the Words I posted, that you refused to even to acknowledge.

You seem to have your reward. Good for you. I'm still seeking it.

 

[Jerry N.]

I think some of you are missing an important point. God’s Law, all of it, is good. Sabbathblessing has been arguing that keeping the Sabbath is part of the Law. Therefore, it is good to keep the Sabbath, and it is not doing works for salvation. We are saved by the grace of God through the sacrifice of Christ, but it doesn’t change the fact that the Law is good. Take part of the Law that most Christians reject for good reason, which is not eating pork (Acts 15:29), since the letter does not address this issue. That doesn’t mean that you must eat pork, but it does mean that God thinks it is a bad idea. You would not force a Christian to eat pork, if they find it against God’s Law. Why would you argue that one should not keep the Sabbath? So far I have not seen any posts that would say Sabbath keeping is wrong based on the Bible, but I do see a lot of rationalization trying to excuse oneself for not keeping the Sabbath. If you really don’t think it is important to keep the Sabbath, you should not try to stop somebody who does think it is important.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The whole argument of Hebrews 4 is STILL keeping the sabbath and not doing it is linked to disobedience where you will "perish".

Amen sister! Hebrews 4 is quoting mainly Old Testament. Why many of the Israelites never entered into their rest (the promise land Jos1:13) And the Scriptures tells us plainly why.....what this entire passage is warning us against...

Eze 20: 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’

But instead of placing the Word of God above anything else what did they do?

Heb4:5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

What did they disobey? God said hallow My Sabbaths....what did they do instead...

Eze 20:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Eze 20:15 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Why Hebrews 4 is bringing us back to obedience to God's commandments especially the 4th commandment that God spoke of in this way:

Heb4:4 For He has spoken (Exo20:1)in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

This is what God spoke of the seventh day in this way

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Why Heb4:9NIV literally translates into the keeping of the Sabbath for the people of God.

Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest

Will we hear the call of the Holy Spirit to not harden our hearts Heb4:7 Heb3:7-19 Psa95:7-14 and follow in the same path of disobedience Heb4:11 or turn from our sins and abide in Christ and allowing Him to define His own Laws which He did plainly, written and spoken from God Himself Deut 4:13 Exo31:18 which He said He would not alter Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

 

[jonojim1337]

I think some of you are missing an important point. God’s Law, all of it, is good. Sabbathblessing has been arguing that keeping the Sabbath is part of the Law. Therefore, it is good to keep the Sabbath, and it is not doing works for salvation. We are saved by the grace of God through the sacrifice of Christ, but it doesn’t change the fact that the Law is good. Take part of the Law that most Christians reject for good reason, which is not eating pork (Acts 15:29), since the letter does not address this issue. That doesn’t mean that you must eat pork, but it does mean that God thinks it is a bad idea. You would not force a Christian to eat pork, if they find it against God’s Law. Why would you argue that one should not keep the Sabbath? So far I have not seen any posts that would say Sabbath keeping is wrong based on the Bible, but I do see a lot of rationalization trying to excuse oneself for not keeping the Sabbath. If you really don’t think it is important to keep the Sabbath, you should not try to stop somebody who does think it is important.

The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. This is true of the entire Bible.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. This is true of the entire Bible.

The letter calls for death- the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if we are in Him (His Spirit), we would be keeping His commandments John14:15-18 not rebelling or arguing against keeping them. Rom8:7-8

 

[jonojim1337]

Amen sister! Hebrews 4 is quoting mainly Old Testament. Why many of the Israelites never entered into their rest (the promise land Jos1:13) And the Scriptures tells us plainly why.....what this entire passage is warning us against...

Eze 20: 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’

But instead of placing the Word of God above anything else what did they do?

Heb4:5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

What did they disobey? God said hallow My Sabbaths....what did they do instead...

Eze 20:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Eze 20:15 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Why Hebrews 4 is bringing us back to obedience to God's commandments especially the 4th commandment that God spoke of in this way:

Heb4:4 For He has spoken (Exo20:1)in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

This is what God spoke of the seventh day in this way

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Why Heb4:9NIV literally translates into the keeping of the Sabbath for the people of God.

Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest

Will we hear the call of the Holy Spirit to not harden our hearts Heb4:7 Heb3:7-19 Psa95:7-14 and follow in the same path of disobedience Heb4:11 or turn from our sins and abide in Christ and allowing Him to define His own Laws which He did plainly, written and spoken from God Himself Deut 4:13 Exo31:18 which He said He would not alter Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

2 Corinthians 6:2

This is the day Paul is speaking about. The acceptable day of the Lord.

 

[jonojim1337]

The letter calls for death- the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if we are in Him (His Spirit), we would be keeping His commandments John14:15-18 not rebelling or arguing against keeping them. Rom8:7-8

I think you’re using the wrong calendar.

 

[Jerry N.]

The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. This is true of the entire Bible.

Keeping the Sabbath does not kill anything. The Bible also says you should not move property markers or let your animals roam free to damage your neighbor’s crops. Would you say that kills? Nonsense!

 

[Delvianna]

Hebrews 4:7-10

2 Corinthians 6:2

What day is it again?

Hebrews 4:4 , the 7th day