Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

[jonojim1337]

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Romans 8:14-17

Are you a slave or a child of God?

Can a man go back into his mother’s womb, and be born again?

By the way you read things, unless you’re literally beheaded, you’re not gonna enter the rest

Revelation 20:4, Revelation 14:11-13

Note that all who do not worship the beast are slain. Only they enter the rest. Those that worship it do not enter the rest. They still rely on their works.

Revelation 13:15

That's not what these Scriptures say. A beast is a government Dan7:23 or Kingdom, not works. This beast changed God's times and laws Dan7:25 (the Sabbath) worship has to do with our obedience- Jesus defined false worship as obeying the commandments/traditions of man over obeying the commandments of God Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14 this is what the final battle is about worship. Are we faithful to God or follow popular traditions of man that goes against one of God's commandments.

 

[jonojim1337]

That's not what these Scriptures say. A beast is a government Dan7:23 or Kingdom, not works. This beast changed God's times and laws Dan7:25 (the Sabbath) worship has to do with our obedience- Jesus defined false worship as obeying the commandments/traditions of man over obeying the commandments of God Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14 this is what the final battle is about worship. Are we faithful to God or follow popular traditions of man that goes against one of God's commandments.

Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, and be born again?

Jesus H. Christ.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, and be born again?

Jesus H. Christ.

Another misunderstanding of what Jesus is saying.

Take care.

 

[jonojim1337]

Another misunderstanding of what Jesus is saying.

Take care.

Camels are unclean you know.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Camels are unclean you know.

True, never said they weren't.

 

[jonojim1337]

True, never said they weren't.

So why do you keep swallowing them?

You really think our salvation is dependent upon fleshly observance of a week day, and not the birth and being guided by the Spirit, entering God’s eternal rest?

 

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So why do you keep swallowing them?

You really think our salvation is dependent upon fleshly observance of a week day, and not the birth and being guided by the Spirit, entering God’s eternal rest?

The Spirit is not going to guide us away from obedience to God or His commandments John14:15-18 1John3:24, that the spirit we are warned about Isa8:20

Who ever said anything about flesh observance. God asked us to keep the Sabbath day holy, He placed this in the same unit as only worshipping Him, is doing that fleshly observance too.

Obeying God is bad disobeying God is good, sad has this has been flipped. Disobeying God is depending on our own fleshy observance not doing what God asks though faith and love. John14:15 Exo20:6 Rom3:31

I think we are way to far apart in our understanding of the word of God so I am going to move on. Be well

 

[throughfierytrial]

Yes because Christ is our head

Yes…happy you get that!!!

 

[throughfierytrial]

Not one of these verses say not to keep the Sabbath commandment according to its original stipulation. In fact, neither of these verses mention the Sabbath at all.

Yes, continues the way Jesus said it would be


Isa 56:1Thus says the Lord:


Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
8 The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says,
“Yet I will gather to him
Others besides those who are gathered to him.”


God's Sabbath has always been a "holy convocation" Lev23:3 gathering of His people (congregation)

Which the words of Jesus always coming true and why we see with the examples of the apostles continuing the Sabbath convocation with all nations (people) every Sabbath decades and decades after the cross just as Jesus predicted Mat24:20 Mat21:13 Isa56:6-7 following in the example of Jesus Luke4:16

Act 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Acts 18:4 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.


Why the Sabbath continues for eternity, just as God said because He changes not,


Isa 66:22“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

You are not reading Galatians 4:9-11 with discernment. It clearly states not to go back to the Law to be saved… in fact that’s the major point Galatians makes… in an effort to correct their great sin of trying to be saved through observance of O.T. Law! That’s why special days are mentioned… it’s part of the Law!

 

[jonojim1337]

The Spirit is not going to guide us away from obedience to God or His commandments John14:15-18 1John3:24, that the spirit we are warned about Isa8:20

Who ever said anything about flesh observance. God asked us to keep the Sabbath day holy, He placed this in the same unit as only worshipping Him, is doing that fleshly observance too.

Obeying God is bad disobeying God is good, sad has this has been flipped. Disobeying God is depending on our own fleshy observance not doing what God asks though faith and love. John14:15 Exo20:6 Rom3:31

I think we are way to far apart in our understanding of the word of God so I am going to move on. Be well

We are sanctified by his blood ‍

 

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We are sanctified by his blood ‍

Heb 5:9 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

 

[jonojim1337]

Heb 5:9 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

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Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
God's ordained His goods works the Ten Commandments that we should walk in them, through love and faith, and not be in rebellion to them Rom8:7-8 but keep His version, because He is God through our love and faith Exo20:6 John14:15 which reconciles us Rev22:14

 

[jonojim1337]

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
God's ordained His goods works the Ten Commandments that we should walk in them, through love and faith, and not be in rebellion to them Rom8:7-8 but keep His version, because He is God through our love and faith Exo20:6 John14:15 which reconciles us Rev22:14

Ok, so let’s go back to basics. There is nothing a man can do, such as observing a week day, to enter into the kingdom. He has to be born again. Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, to be born again?

And if you are born again, then you are children and hiers according to the promise, and not slaves, as if man was made for the sabbath, and not the sabbath for man.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Ok, so let’s go back to basics. There is nothing a man can do, such as observing a week day, to enter into the kingdom. He has to be born again. Can a man enter into his mother’s womb, to be born again?

And if you are born again, then you are children and hiers according to the promise, and not slaves, as if man was made for the sabbath, and not the sabbath for man.

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

 

[jonojim1337]

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

Isaiah 28:13

So then, the word of the LORD to them will become: Do this, do that, a rule for this, a rule for that; a little here, a little there— so that as they go they will fall backward; they will be injured and snared and captured.

This is the law of the flesh, of sin and death. No one who lives like this can please God.

Isaiah 64:6

Our righteousness are as filthy rags.

Whatever you do on a particular day of the week or not has no bearing in this context. We are to surrender our entire lives to God not just a week day. This is ridiculous.

And we are ONLY justified by his blood and nothing else. Did the thief on the cross that was saved observe a single week day? No, he didn’t, but he surrendered fully under the Lordship of Christ and whatever his purpose was cannot be booked into a calendar. Do not think about the morrow. And of course you shouldn’t do evil on any day.

 

[Hentenza]

Jesus said, If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 not keeping them there is no truth in you 1John2:4.

The key word is keep MY commandments. He gave us two love commandments. Your reference to 1John 2:4 is a scare tactic used by legalists to shame opponents. It’s actually weaponizing scripture to flame opponents.

The commandments are kept because of a changed heart by Jesus. If we are fighting against keeping them, there's a bigger issue going on Rom8:7-8 Eze20:16

No issue since the commandments were repeated into Jesus two love commandments except for the 4th commandment which Jesus fulfilled on Himself so now we rest in Him not on a day.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Isaiah 28:13

So then, the word of the LORD to them will become: Do this, do that, a rule for this, a rule for that; a little here, a little there— so that as they go they will fall backward; they will be injured and snared and captured.

This is the law of the flesh, of sin and death. No one who lives like this can please God.

Isaiah 64:6

Our righteousness are as filthy rags.

Whatever you do on a particular day of the week or not has no bearing in this context. We are to surrender our entire lives to God not just a week day. This is ridiculous.

And we are ONLY justified by his blood and nothing else. Did the thief on the cross that was saved observe a single week day? No, he didn’t, but he surrendered fully under the Lordship of Christ and whatever his purpose was cannot be booked into a calendar. Do not think about the morrow. And of course you shouldn’t do evil on any day.

That's right, why we need to depend on God's righteousness (right and wrong doing) Psa119:172 Isa56:1-2 which is everlasting Psa119:142 and not depend on what we feel is right or wrong (our righteousness) which is as fifthly rags,.

 

[jonojim1337]

That's right, why we need to depend on God's righteousness (right and wrong doing) Psa119:172 Isa56:1-2 which is everlasting Psa119:142 and not depend on what we feel is right or wrong (our righteousness) which is as fifthly rags,.

What is it you expect me to do on the seventh day of the week? Roll my thumbs?

And what calendar are you even using are you sure it’s the right one