Why Vaccinations Shouldn't be Optional

[Larniavc]

And, if Chiropractic was just the quackery as you believe than you are also in opposition to the government and health insurance industry of this country which pay for its services. But if they're paying for quackery it would most certainly be because they're not as smart as the idiots here.

I am most definitely against health insurance as a public health method.

With Health as a commodity the customer (no matter how ill informed) gets what they demand if they can pay.

In a system where the patient only gets evidence based treatment (and if they want unevidenced treatment they can pay for it themselves) things like homeopathy, chiropractic, reiki etc are not available (here in the UK altmed treatments are being systematically purged from the nhs).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I am most definitely against health insurance as a public health method.

With Health as a commodity the customer (no matter how ill informed) gets what they demand if they can pay.

In a system where the patient only gets evidence based treatment (and if they want unevidenced treatment they can pay for it themselves) things like homeopathy, chiropractic, reiki etc are not available (here in the UK altmed treatments are being systematically purged from the nhs).

In other words , the world government and anti-people laws of codex are acceptable to you, even though they bring great harm to many families every day ?

As for as evidence goes, well, there's no way to tell how you were tricked so thoroughly , or by whom, (possibly all your life, as many have been)...

 

[FireDragon76]

You think that spreading lies that get people killed is honoring God?

As long as he has his perceived "purity".

 

[GeorgeJ]

You think that spreading lies that get people killed is honoring God?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Is it possible even, for a 'deist' to recognize deity and to obey the Creator ?

 

[Hillsage]

I am most definitely against health insurance as a public health method.

With Health as a commodity the customer (no matter how ill informed) gets what they demand if they can pay.

In a system where the patient only gets evidence based treatment (and if they want unevidenced treatment they can pay for it themselves) things like homeopathy, chiropractic, reiki etc are not available (here in the UK altmed treatments are being systematically purged from the nhs).

Yes, we heard years ago about socialized medicine of England eliminating chiropractic from coverage. We were worried as a profession in America, at that time because Hillary was pushing socialism here, back then too, under Bill's presidency. And we feared America being as medically brain washed as the Britts and loosing coverage. It was a big time of political bull. But then my brother in law, who is also a chiropractor, took his son on a trip to England. While there he asked some chiropractors how the profession was doing having been kicked out of the system. He was told; "GREAT now that the MD's only make $???? amount of govt mandated salary's, no matter if they see 20 patients a day or a 100 patients a day. So now the MD's are referring to us DC's left and right and the patient has to pay us out of pocket." So much for the medical's allegiance to 'the truth' of 'Chiropractic quackery' when it really boiled down to 'the money trail'...HUH?

 

[GeorgeJ]

Is it possible even, for a 'deist' to recognize deity and to obey the Creator ?

Once again, what does me being a Deist have to do with this?

Wait, I'll answer that.....


NOTHING.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Once again, what does me being a Deist have to do with this?

Wait, I'll answer that.....


NOTHING.

Exactly ! How ironic is that, eh ? Why ask a deist anything then ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Wrong! Its been thoroughly proven and swept under the carpet by your lord and savior the pharmaceutical companies...

Yes, that's a lot like the many false teachers today, and false gospels, not testing nor verifying the truth about all things but just accepting the false information glibly or gullibly in spite of many many many warnings ..... the mis-information published daily is increasing exponentially to where people can hardly find the truth out now, even if they have time to start to look for it, and even after they find out that the government IS NOT HONEST. (does anyone think so any more even ?!)

 

[GeorgeJ]

This thread is quickly devolving into the murky depths of the conspiracy theory realm.

 

[Larniavc]

Yes, we heard years ago about socialized medicine of England eliminating chiropractic from coverage. We were worried as a profession in America, at that time because Hillary was pushing socialism here, back then too, under Bill's presidency. And we feared America being as medically brain washed as the Britts and loosing coverage. It was a big time of political bull. But then my brother in law, who is also a chiropractor, took his son on a trip to England. While there he asked some chiropractors how the profession was doing having been kicked out of the system. He was told; "GREAT now that the MD's only make $???? amount of govt mandated salary's, no matter if they see 20 patients a day or a 100 patients a day. So now the MD's are referring to us DC's left and right and the patient has to pay us out of pocket." So much for the medical's allegiance to 'the truth' of 'Chiropractic quackery' when it really boiled down to 'the money trail'...HUH?

I don’t understand your point?

 

[Hillsage]

For the record and the OP of this thread. I have no problem with people lining up like lemmings because they have FAITH in shots. I just don't want them forcing me, or mine, into their 'box' of thinking. I have the same standards for Christianity. Am I a heretic there also?....YES I am. Just like Paul confessed to being a heretic, and just like the church of Rome condemned Martin Luther for being a heretic. Heresy doesn't mean we're wrong, it only means the lemming mentality is in the political and religious majority concerning the ruling and reigning over men. 'Men' who also are simply seeking the truth, wherever truth may lead. And if it lead contrary to the majority, then they simply confirm what history proves, even with Israel.....the majority were usually wrong and the prophets were right.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I don’t understand your point?

When most people learn the truth, and have a choice at all,
they choose what is usually called alternative medicine, whether chiropracty or natural medicine or ortho-molecular medicine etc etc etc ... due to good success thereby and few if any side effects. Naturally, the money makers try to hide this when they can; but as noted in the quoted post, when they don't make more money by propogating their methods, but rather can shuffle their patients off on anyone else so they don't have to treat them, they do. i.e. M O N E Y is their goal and motive and the reason people usually don't get the best options.

The truth when covered up leads always to extreme cost in $$$$ and in pain and suffering, since profit is the motive (for practically all corporations, etc).

 

[JackRT]

Read Foxes Book of Martyrs to see how nasty, brutish and 'short' life was for multitudes at the hands of the same authority that is pushing vaccinations today. (authority of men/ mankind/ 'leaders' and rulers without any concern for truth).

The persecution of Christians under the Romans was very intermittent in both time and place and was greatly exaggerated in the various martyrologies. Starting with Constantine the persecuted Church quickly became the persecuting Church and they were far better at it than the pagans ever were. To compare these persecutions to the promotion of vaccinations is completely wrong-headed. Over the past two centuries vaccination has saved countless millions of lives.

 

[Larniavc]

When most people learn the truth, and have a choice at all,
they choose what is usually called alternative medicine, whether chiropracty or natural medicine or ortho-molecular medicine etc etc etc ... due to good success thereby and few if any side effects. Naturally, the money makers try to hide this when they can; but as noted in the quoted post, when they don't make more money by propogating their methods, but rather can shuffle their patients off on anyone else so they don't have to treat them, they do. i.e. M O N E Y is their goal and motive and the reason people usually don't get the best options.

The truth when covered up leads always to extreme cost in $$$$ and in pain and suffering, since profit is the motive (for practically all corporations, etc).

The conspiracy for is > way.

Magical energy going through the spine is ridiculous. Chiropractic is bunk and that’s that.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The persecution of Christians ... ... ...

Many thousands or more, likely millions, of witnesses that once believed as you do, including me , found out first hand and repeatedly that we were wrong to trust man, government, or agency.
As long as we believed man, government, or agency, we suffered and were deceived.
This is true of everyone to start with, without exception. There is no way , either, to change anyone's mind until they decide to seek , to learn , and to accept the truth, no matter how long they have been deceived or by whom.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The conspiracy for is > way.

Magical energy going through the spine is ridiculous. Chiropractic is bunk and that’s that.

Get the facts correct first. There is no magical energy. Once you get the facts straight, and understand how the nerves in a person's body are controlling most all of the body's functions, naturally, and how they can cause a dys-function as well ,
then you might start to understand how wonderful God created us and how easy it is to accomplish healing when the truth is known. (not always, no, but usually easy, compared to using poisons that our body rejects and fights) ....

 

[Hillsage]

I don’t understand your point?

You haven't understood anything yet, from my first post, let alone the last one. I won't write a book for you, study to show yourself approved. Want to talk about CONSPIRACY THEORIES? Our profession lived through it and here is the New York Times article concerning the Federal Courts finding that the AMA, American College of Surgeons, and the American college of Radiology were all guilty of a conspiracy to destroy our profession.

And the uneducated lemmings still believe the lie they propagated.

U.S. Judge Finds Medical Group Conspired Against Chiropractors

 

[Larniavc]

There is no magical energy.

The the very foundations of D.D. Palmer’s Innate Intelligence are not something you subscribe to?

 

[Larniavc]

You haven't understood anything yet, from my first post, let alone the last one. I won't write a book for you, study to show yourself approved. Want to talk about CONSPIRACY THEORIES? Our profession lived through it and here is the New York Times article concerning the Federal Courts finding that the AMA, American College of Surgeons, and the American college of Radiology were all guilty of a conspiracy to destroy our profession.

And the uneducated lemmings still believe the lie they propagated.

No. It’s all bunk and here in the UK it will soon be driven out from the NHS completely.

The age of Chiropractic is coming to an end.

Good riddance.