Why teach creationism in public school science classes?

[AV1611VET]

Which is fine. I think it's good to let people choose.

The Dungeons & Dragon phenemenon of the 70s shows that, when given a choice without weight, most people will tend to choose the dark side over the light.

 

[Cabal]

But if you word it that way, you're in essence saying that it is being taught because it won a popularity contest.

That's the only reason why it ever would be in there.

For kids to hear that E=mc[sup]2[/sup], then go down the hall and hear that "most people believe that God...", sends a signal to children that creationism is not on as solid a foundation as science; when, in fact, creationism is on a higher plane than science.

It's not. It's opinion, not fact.

 

[Greg1234]

I actually think that's a mature decision. No one is going to stop scientific progress because a teacher mentions creationism or Mr. Jones down the street believes it. It's just saying "hey, there is a large portion that believes x, y, z".

I'm a bit confused as to the "other views" that other religions might present. I'm not for preaching christian creation at all, just the fact that some people believe there is deity creation vs. evolution, and the idea that some people believe a mixture of the two. I'm not sure what else there is as far as people believing how the earth came into being.... Maybe I'm missing something.

What is to be taught within physical sciences is intelligent design. It becomes necessary through the "scientific fact" of microbe-to-man phenomena.

Creationism is broad as it interacted and interacts with multiple aspects reality. It expands across multiple fields including history, physics, metaphysics, biology etc. But if you clump it up, materialists realize that they can avoid the drop. Instead of teaching the atomic structure in astronomy, you just say that micro-biology should be kept out of astronomy.

If I say molecules, you say molecular biology. When I say intelligent design, you say Creationism.

 

[Skavau]

The Dungeons & Dragon phenemenon of the 70s shows that, when given a choice without weight, most people will tend to choose the dark side over the light.

Not me. I always choose Paladin, or their equivalent in RPG games such as Templars, Knights, Crusaders.

I get the impression you watched Mazes & Monsters with Tom Hanks!

 

[IreneAdler]

But if you word it that way, you're in essence saying that it is being taught because it won a popularity contest.

For kids to hear that E=mc[sup]2[/sup], then go down the hall and hear that "most people believe that God...", sends a signal to children that creationism is not on as solid a foundation as science; when, in fact, creationism is on a higher plane than science.

frankly I find that safer than fighting the fight over which is right until it's proven 100% either way (either not being really appropriate for three choies).
It's better to fully educate than it is to withhold information, even if the information is flawed, it can be presented as opinion. I'm not sure why that threatens people.

 

[mzungu]

Why is Christopher Columbus taught in public schools?

For the same reason George Washington is taught in schools. They were historical figures and there is ample evidence of their existence and achievements.

On the other hand there is no historical nor scientific evidence that the thousands of Gods in all religions including the one of Christianity ever existed!

If we allow the dilution of erudition with superstition then we are doomed to relive the dark ages where women were torched simply for having a wart!

Over 2000 years of Christianity and millennia of other religions and we still have wars, rape, murders, hunger, genocides, etc, ad infinitum; Not to mention the worst of the lot: Lawyers and politicians and money hungry religious leaders.

 

[Skavau]

For kids to hear that E=mc[sup]2[/sup], then go down the hall and hear that "most people believe that God...", sends a signal to children that creationism is not on as solid a foundation as science; when, in fact, creationism is on a higher plane than science.

I know you don't like to hear it often, but that is because science (or rather, its demonstrated fields) is on a more solid foundation than creationism.

 

[IreneAdler]

What is to be taught within physical sciences is intelligent design. It becomes necessary through the "scientific fact" of microbe-to-man phenomena.

Creationism is broad as it interacted and interacts with multiple aspects reality. It expands across multiple fields including history, physics, metaphysics, biology etc. But if you clump it up, materialists realize that they can avoid the drop. Instead of teaching the atomic structure in astronomy, you just say that micro-biology should be kept out of astronomy.

If I say molecules, you say molecular biology. When I say intelligent design, you say Creationism.

Ok, intelligent design then.

 

[mzungu]

Ok, intelligent design then.

Both are one and the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3PnKswZtPI

 

[Hespera]

I know you don't like to hear it often, but that is because science (or rather, its demonstrated fields) is on a more solid foundation than creationism.

I get the impression you watched Mazes & Monsters with Tom Hanks!

more solid than nothing at all is faint praise!

 

[Nathan Poe]

Why is Christopher Columbus taught in public schools?

You mean why is he taught incorrectly in public schools?

Because too many people back in the day confused the Columbus myth with actual history -- and tradition has enshrined the myth to the point where it's easier to believe the falsehood to be true than it is to actually present the mountains of evidence that show the truth.

 

[IreneAdler]

I know mzungu (potato... yeah, that's hard to type out)

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Dungeons & Dragon phenemenon of the 70s shows that, when given a choice without weight, most people will tend to choose the dark side over the light.

Good thing that this choice has weight -- truth over mythology.

 

[IreneAdler]

lol, D&D as a measure of people's propensity for choosing evil - that's just too funny

 

[Nathan Poe]

But if you word it that way, you're in essence saying that it is being taught because it won a popularity contest.

Actually, it won a fact checking contest.

For kids to hear that E=mc[sup]2[/sup], then go down the hall and hear that "most people believe that God...", sends a signal to children that creationism is not on as solid a foundation as science; when, in fact, creationism is on a higher plane than science.

According to whose sense of self-importance? Yours?

Certainly not according to any facts, which, by your own admission, you don't have.

 

[AV1611VET]

Both are one and the same.

I disagree -- Intelligent Design is one of Satan's tricks, in my opinion.

It places too much emphasis on seeing God in the physical universe and shipwrecks the faith.

This junk about the eyeball, and how this, that, and the other thing is designed to do this, that, and the other thing is okay for those who are weak in the faith and need to walk by sight, I guess; but if Intelligent Design is being used to kick-start someone's faith -- (so he doesn't have to crawl all his life) -- then that's even worse, as true faith comes by hearing the word of God, not McGraw-Hill.

 

[Delphiki]

This junk about the eyeball, and how this, that, and the other thing is designed to do this, that, and the other thing is okay for those who are weak in the faith and need to walk by sight, I guess;

Except for when that same eyeball is looking at words int he pages of the bible, right?

 

[Nathan Poe]

I disagree -- Intelligent Design is one of Satan's tricks, in my opinion.

Well, that's your opinion.

It places too much emphasis on seeing God in the physical universe and shipwrecks the faith.

So the faith is to take the physical universe out of the equation? What exactly would creationism teach, then?

This junk about the eyeball, and how this, that, and the other thing is designed to do this, that, and the other thing is okay for those who are weak in the faith and need to walk by sight, I guess; but if Intelligent Design is being used to kick-start someone's faith -- (so he doesn't have to crawl all his life) -- then that's even worse, as true faith comes by hearing the word of God, not McGraw-Hill.

Mcgraw-Hill still has a better track record than you.

 

[AV1611VET]

Except for when that same eyeball is looking at words int he pages of the bible, right?

-- what?

 

[Tomatoman]

For kids to hear that E=mc[sup]2[/sup], then go down the hall and hear that "most people believe that God...", sends a signal to children that creationism is not on as solid a foundation as science;

Which it isn't.

when, in fact, creationism is on a higher plane than science.

Bilge like this is how you justify to yourself wasting your time studying fairy stories instead of the real world, (which is also why you seem to be almost completely ignorant of the world you live in, shamefully).The truth is that bible creationism is an intellectual sewer of enforced ignorance and brainwashing, while science is an honest attempt to find out what is true. That you consider the more perverted of these two to be on a higher plane says a lot about what religion has done to your moral judgements.