Why teach creationism in public school science classes?

[mzungu]

I disagree -- Intelligent Design is one of Satan's tricks, in my opinion.

It places too much emphasis on seeing God in the physical universe and shipwrecks the faith.

I am sorry but it has been proven that creationism is ID:

Expelled Exposed: Why Expelled Flunks

 

[Split Rock]

The Dungeons & Dragon phenemenon of the 70s shows that, when given a choice without weight, most people will tend to choose the dark side over the light.

Frankly, that's a load of bull. D & D has nothing to do with "chosing the dark side." Not to mention it is still played today, despite the fact there hasn't been any recent bad story about it over-sensationalized by the media.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am sorry but it has been proven that creationism is ID:

Expelled Exposed: Why Expelled Flunks

I haven't seen Ben Stein's movie.

 

[Skavau]

It sounds as if he's watched Mazes & Monsters, Split Rock. It was a poor Tom Hanks movie where the main character started to believe his character in the RP "Mazes & Monsters" game was a real character and had a long hallucination.

Truly awful film.

 

[mzungu]

I haven't seen Ben Stein's movie.

Please watch the video; it clearly shows that both are one and the same! After all it won't hurt you to watch it.

 

[AV1611VET]

It sounds as if he's watched Mazes & Monsters, Split Rock. It was a poor Tom Hanks movie where the main character started to believe his character in the RP "Mazes & Monsters" game was a real character and had a long hallucination.

Excuse me -- I thought I made it clear I was in my '20s at the time, and that there was a famous case about 4 college students at the University of Michigan.

For your misinformation, I have not see this movie you're talking about, or even heard of it.

 

[Cabal]

Frankly, that's a load of bull. D & D has nothing to do with "chosing the dark side." Not to mention it is still played today, despite the fact there hasn't been any recent bad story about it over-sensationalized by the media.

And I'm sure that AV hasn't considered that as D&D <ahem> isn't real* his point is more likely indicating the opposite - people role-play towards the "dark side" because that's the exact opposite of how they normally are, i.e. most people tend towards good than bad.

*I'm sure that might be hard for such an ardent religionist to determine, mind

 

[Cabal]

Excuse me -- I thought I made it clear I was in my '20s at the time, and that there was a famous case about 4 college students at the University of Michigan.

So at what point did 4 people become "most people"?

 

[Skavau]

Excuse me -- I thought I made it clear I was in my '20s at the time, and that there was a famous case about 4 college students at the University of Michigan.

For your misinformation, I have not see this movie you're talking about, or even heard of it.

Did you? Fair enough.

In any case, I think that was what the Mazes & Monsters was based on partially.

 

[AV1611VET]

Please watch the video; it clearly shows that both are one and the same! After all it won't hurt you to watch it.

Okay ... I watched it ... now what?

You want me to agree with this girl that Intelligent Design is the same as Creationism?

Creationism is intelligent design with a backbone -- how's that?

Her last sentence, something about Intelligent Design not belonging in a science class, I agree with; but the video seems to be equating science class with school in general.

It's not that they want it out of science class; they want it out of school -- period.

 

[AV1611VET]

In any case, I think that was what the Mazes & Monsters was based on partially.

I'll take your word for it.

 

[Nathan Poe]

So at what point did 4 people become "most people"?

The point where 4 became enough for him to convince himself he had a point.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Her last sentence, something about Intelligent Design not belonging in a science class, I agree with; but the video seems to be equating science class with school in general.

It's not that they want it out of science class; they want it out of school -- period.

Well, that doesn't seem fair -- I used to teach about creationism all the time in my literature class -- alongside other myths.

Oddly enough, I've spoken to creationists who objected to my teaching it -- being that I'm not a science teacher and all.

 

[IreneAdler]

It'd be nice to say you could teach it in a religious (of many religions) course but many schools are just too small to support an elective like that.

 

[Split Rock]

It sounds as if he's watched Mazes & Monsters, Split Rock. It was a poor Tom Hanks movie where the main character started to believe his character in the RP "Mazes & Monsters" game was a real character and had a long hallucination.

Truly awful film.

Yes, a very bad film.. but it was based on the so-called "Steam Tunnel" incident at Michigan State U. The connection to D&D, however, was nothing more than speculation. (See below)

Excuse me -- I thought I made it clear I was in my '20s at the time, and that there was a famous case about 4 college students at the University of Michigan.

For your misinformation, I have not see this movie you're talking about, or even heard of it.

Yeah, that's what I thought you were referring to (although it was Michigan State University). The story is really more Urban Legend, than based on any reality about the game. See: James Dallas Egbert III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Nathan Poe]

It'd be nice to say you could teach it in a religious (of many religions) course but many schools are just too small to support an elective like that.

because if you teach about one religion, you'd have to teach about all of them (or at least most of the major ones) on equal terms in the interest of fairness.

I can think of a lot of parents who have no interest in fairness or "equal terms."

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, that doesn't seem fair -- I used to teach about creationism all the time in my literature class -- alongside other myths.

I'm sure your version was a myth.

 

[IreneAdler]

that's fine. I'm just saying, our school is so small we don't have the smattering of sports most schools do (and you know how important sports are in Texas - rolls eyes).

most parents want the school to parent so frankly I see that as a parenting issue not a school education issue (not wanting fairness)

 

[sandwiches]

I'm sure your version was a myth.

Should we teach your version as true? If so, why?

 

[AV1611VET]

because if you teach about one religion, you'd have to teach about all of them (or at least most of the major ones) on equal terms in the interest of fairness.

Do you think that's what Jesus would want to do, if He was here right now?

Teach Islam in a public school in America?