Why seek "God"?

[ananda]

To have everlasting life you seek God.

Why are you motivated to seek everlasting life?

 

[dlamberth]

To have everlasting life you seek God.

Than we are in agreement. Your quest is to life forever.

 

[toLiJC]

Please describe the narrow path, then? If you believe I didn't follow that correct path, then I don't know what else to try.

My investigative thoughts indeed led me to Buddhism.

there must be no heresies while going up to the holy place, because what is set up in the holy place definitely matters given that every kind/sort/type of non-salvation or destruction for humans/souls is a heresy (excluding the biblical doctrine of eternal judgment, for the eternal circle of existence and positions of the souls is just inevitable, though it should also not be abused), and, unfortunately, there could be many different heresies, for example, the doctrine of karma and samsara, when i was a religious seeker many years ago i thought that the explanation of things which that doctrine provides seems very likely to be true, but one day, in the course of practicing the faith in the true One, His voice came to me, what kind of god must the one making every soul go through many successive births, forms of existence, and deaths marked/accompanied by many sorrows/sufferings be, sadist, psychopath, dictator, oppressor, exploiter, etc.?!, and i saw (through) the naked truth, namely the fact that the doctrine of karma and samsara is not true, but a satanic fabrication, as if someone or many intended to reign over the world, albeit to the detriment of all others, and that they were also actuated by an interest to "live"/exist on their own through eternity, even if they have thus to cherish illusions - those ones were the angels of satan and the clerics and worshipers of the "beast", such as krishna and many other so-called avatars, yogi(n)s, etc...

there is not anything such as maya, gunas, karma, samsara, etc. presented as holy in the biblical scriptures, namely because these things are satanic fabrications

Blessings

 

[CherubRam]

Why are you motivated to seek everlasting life?

Why do you want to die?

1. Proverbs 8:36
But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death."

 

[CherubRam]

1. Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

 

[ananda]

there must be no heresies while going up to the holy place, because what is set up in the holy place definitely matters given that every kind/sort/type of non-salvation or destruction for humans/souls is a heresy (excluding the biblical doctrine of eternal judgment, for the eternal circle of existence and positions of the souls is just inevitable, though it should also not be abused), and, unfortunately, there could be many different heresies, for example, the doctrine of karma and samsara, when i was a religious seeker many years ago i thought that the explanation of things which that doctrine provides seems very likely to be true, but one day, in the course of practicing the faith in the true One, His voice came to me, what kind of god must the one making every soul go through many successive births, forms of existence, and deaths marked/accompanied by many sorrows/sufferings be, sadist, psychopath, dictator, oppressor, exploiter, etc.?!, and i saw (through) the naked truth, namely the fact that the doctrine of karma and samsara is not true, but a satanic fabrication, as if someone or many intended to reign over the world, albeit to the detriment of all others, and that they were also actuated by an interest to "live"/exist on their own through eternity, even if they have thus to cherish illusions - those ones were the angels of satan and the clerics and worshipers of the "beast", such as krishna and many other so-called avatars, yogi(n)s, etc...

there is not anything such as maya, gunas, karma, samsara, etc. presented as holy in the biblical scriptures, namely because these things are satanic fabrications

Blessings

So, what's the correct, narrow path?

 

[ananda]

Why do you want to die?

1. Proverbs 8:36
But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death."

But that's not an answer to my question. Why do you, specifically, want eternal life?

 

[CherubRam]

That's not an answer to my question. Why do you, specifically, want eternal life?

Because I do not want to die.

 

[ananda]

Because I do not want to die.

What does the prospect of death do for you?

 

[CherubRam]

What does the prospect of death do for you?

Death does nothing for me. In death you no longer exist.

 

[ananda]

Death does nothing for me. In death you no longer exist.

Well, I wasn't asking about death itself, but about the prospect (thinking) of death (without eternal life).

 

[habibii zahra]

How does it do that?

I guess, what I'm asking is this: how do you know that a deity performed those miracles, and not merely force of mind of the petitioner (or another reason)? or, if a higher intelligence did perform those miracles, how do you know it is almighty and infinite, and not the product of an extremely powerful, but still limited being (like Buddhist devas)?

the one who shows miracles means that is the absolute the unseen powerful being...jesus used to revive the dead isn't that a miracle that prove his prophecy?? miracle means something above the possible something impossible like changing the sinking of the sun from the west to the east for example..ALLAH is able to do these things thus ALLAH is the most powerful being it means that he is the god of the universe
he is the one who can do the impossible thing he is the creator of all people...isn't creating people a miracle????

 

[dlamberth]

the one who shows miracles means that is the absolute the unseen powerful being...jesus used to revive the dead isn't that a miracle that prove his prophecy?? miracle means something above the possible something impossible like changing the sinking of the sun from the west to the east for example..ALLAH is able to do these things thus ALLAH is the most powerful being it means that he is the god of the universe
he is the one who can do the impossible thing he is the creator of all people...isn't creating people a miracle????

A true miracle happens when people in need are fed, housed, provided medical access and live with no fear of war or other violence. Today there are nearly a 800 million human beings who go to bed hungry each night and 1.6 Billion who lack adequate housing.

 

[toLiJC]

That's all find and dandy, but Buddhist aren't in the worshiping game. They do heal and feed the sick though.

buddhists are also spiritual/religious, so they are also in the worshiping game, though they worship some state rather than any god

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

So, what's the correct, narrow path?

it was already explained to you, if a man seeks only what he could receive/get from another (one) or from somewhere instead of seeking how to bring cleansing for humans from sins (full or at least greater than the one by default), then how will he find the narrow path?!, or if i don't pray to the true One for overall salvation, will He consider me that i pray properly or that my prayer is righteous?!, if we don't penetrate the mystery of lawlessness so that we may remove evil from the world/humankind, then we won't manage to make a serious/significant breakthrough in the practice of faith, but this is not possible if the faith is not only in the One Who is really the true Lord God...

Blessings

 

[ananda]

the one who shows miracles means that is the absolute the unseen powerful being...jesus used to revive the dead isn't that a miracle that prove his prophecy?? miracle means something above the possible something impossible like changing the sinking of the sun from the west to the east for example..ALLAH is able to do these things thus ALLAH is the most powerful being it means that he is the god of the universe
he is the one who can do the impossible thing he is the creator of all people...isn't creating people a miracle????

I'm suggesting that miracles are not proof that the alleged doer of the alleged miracles are infinite or almighty.

For example, I can do things which might seem miraculous to lower animals, or even children. It doesn't make me infinite or almighty.

 

[ananda]

it was already explained to you, if a man seeks only what he could receive/get from another (one) or from somewhere instead of seeking how to bring cleansing for humans from sins (full or at least greater than the one by default), then how will he find the narrow path?!, or if i don't pray to the true One for overall salvation, will He consider me that i pray properly or that my prayer is righteous?!, if we don't penetrate the mystery of lawlessness so that we may remove evil from the world/humankind, then we won't manage to make a serious/significant breakthrough in the practice of faith, but this is not possible if the faith is not only in the One Who is really the true Lord God...

Blessings

What I am suggesting that I did indeed dedicate myself wholly to the Christian path before turning to Buddhism. I had complete faith in the god of the Bible, and no thought of the Buddha or Buddhism. It didn't work.

 

[toLiJC]

A true miracle happens when people in need are fed, housed, provided medical access and live with no fear of war or other violence. Today there are nearly a 800 million human beings who go to bed hungry each night and 1.6 Billion who lack adequate housing.

if we the spiritual ones provide the people with physical support/aid/help, and not spiritual, what will they so get?!, they can again become hungry, ill, etc. if the problems are not resolved spiritually

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

What I am suggesting that I did indeed dedicate myself wholly to the Christian path before turning to Buddhism. I had complete faith in the god of the Bible, and no thought of the Buddha or Buddhism. It didn't work.

if you expected that you would get/have anything great for yourself without working for overall salvation in the true One properly, then it is not surprising that your faith didn't make you first in the Kingdom of the true One

Blessings

 

[ananda]

if you expected that you would get/have anything great for yourself without working for overall salvation in the true One properly, then it is not surprising that your faith didn't make you first in the Kingdom of the true One

Blessings

Then I shall ask again, what does this "working" consist of?