Why seek "God"?

[dlamberth]

Did Buddha say people could find eternal life if they followed?

In seeking God, I just don't get this eternal life thing. I'd think the seeking is about having God as ones reality in life and how to have that happen.

 

[CherubRam]

In seeking God, I just don't get this eternal life thing. I'd think the seeking is about having God as ones reality in life and how to have that happen.

BibleGateway - : eternal life
Matthew 25:46
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

 

[Noxot]

Is sustenance of and pleasures for the physical body the greatest virtue?

no.

That sounds interpretive. E.g. "I feel love/compassion/powerful/blissful/etc., I must be in touch with God/Jesus/Krishna/Aphrodite/etc.!"

Why not see love as love, compassion as compassion, power as power, bliss as bliss - instead of trying to interpret them as coming from Aphrodite?

since I don't make a law with my mind that says that making laws with my mind is bad.... I therefore don't find an error in my own mind. in my eyes you interpret them because you favor the word bliss over love or desire. Odin only offered one of his eyes for wisdom, not both.

I think your point about bliss being bliss and love being love and compassion being compassion is valid in some ways and not in others. why try to interpret things according to Buddha?

 

[toLiJC]

Thanks for sharing your dogma. As I've stated, unfortunately I cannot verify any of it for myself.

what is so dogmatic in my testimony?!, if you can't or don't verify it, then why are you so hasty to blaspheme it?!

No, I'm not asking to observe "things of the true God". I'm asking about observing God itself.

in any case you don't observe God seriously, which is why you don't know Him

What are the "things of the true God"? Things like Love? Bliss? Peace? Health? In those things, I see love, bliss, peace, and health. I do not see why they need to be (or how they can be) connected to any specific individual, like Krishna, Jesus, Ishtar, Mohammed, etc. except by conjecture and interpretation.

these things can be discerned/experienced/appraised only spiritually - if the faith is practiced right, but you don't do it, which is why you don't know the things of the true One

Your dogmatic claims about faith in salvation for the next/future eternity can easily apply to Zoroastrianism or any other faith-based religions.

i haven't made claims, i have just witnessed to the truth of the true One, something that is explained in Scripture, and that is explicable even without Scripture, but someone must practice the faith right, because no one on the part of the Kingdom of the true God forces people to believe or imposes anything on others- the true Saints are not bullies

I didn't understand what you meant by "good for us, evil for you".

in such a case your IQ should be like that of the apes or less than theirs, which is unbelievable(unlikely)

Is it strange to request deliverance from a prophet "of the true God"? If you claim that I associate with devilish spirits, you can surely cast them out? As your scripture claims: "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils ..." Mk 16:17 - assuming this is your scripture & belief? I am quite open to observing the results, with an open mind.

it sounds like, i won't do anything - you do everything, as if the speaker is some robot programmed only to answer that it can't or is not programmed to do anything, and its programmer is the one that must do everything... - but i am not of the brainwashing program, nor am i a circus artist

Blessings

 

[dlamberth]

BibleGateway - : eternal life
Matthew 25:46
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Your looking at something after a person dies. Seeking God, and having Him as one's reality in life is something we do now, while we are alive. That's what matters most, in my way of thinking.

 

[DarthNeo]

GOD...sought us first. He provided His Son from before the foundation of the Earth...

 

[ananda]

GOD...sought us first. He provided His Son from before the foundation of the Earth...

How do you know this to be true?

 

[ananda]

no.

since I don't make a law with my mind that says that making laws with my mind is bad.... I therefore don't find an error in my own mind. in my eyes you interpret them because you favor the word bliss over love or desire. Odin only offered one of his eyes for wisdom, not both.

I think your point about bliss being bliss and love being love and compassion being compassion is valid in some ways and not in others. why try to interpret things according to Buddha?

... because we do not interpret things in terms of Buddha. Everything is supposed to be seen as they are, without interpretation.

 

[ananda]

what is so dogmatic in my testimony?!, if you can't or don't verify it, then why are you so hasty to blaspheme it?!

I've stated repeatedly that I've tried to verify Christianity for 30 years, without success.

in any case you don't observe God seriously, which is why you don't know Him ... these things can be discerned/experienced/appraised only spiritually - if the faith is practiced right, but you don't do it, which is why you don't know the things of the true One ... i haven't made claims, i have just witnessed to the truth of the true One, something that is explained in Scripture, and that is explicable even without Scripture, but someone must practice the faith right, because no one on the part of the Kingdom of the true God forces people to believe or imposes anything on others- the true Saints are not bullies

How did I practice my faith wrong?

in such a case your IQ should be like that of the apes or less than theirs, which is unbelievable(unlikely)

How is my IQ relevant?

it sounds like, i won't do anything - you do everything, as if the speaker is some robot programmed only to answer that it can't or is not programmed to do anything, and its programmer is the one that must do everything... - but i am not of the brainwashing program, nor am i a circus artist ... Blessings

If you will not, then that begs the question: when can a legitimate disciple cast out devils?

 

[habibii zahra]

I see little to no value in theistic religion. What little good can be derived from them is not exclusive to their world views, and the rest tends to be detrimental instead of positive.

Case in point: Islam. To believe that a single book that was written in late Antiquity contains all the answers you'll ever need is literally preventing any sort of progress or new insight. There was a golden age when Islam was more progressive than Christianity, yes, but that period is maligned as a deviation from the One True Path by salafists/Wahhabi.
As a result, you see contemporary muslims repeating that salt water and sweet water do not mix, that one wing of a fly contains poison while the other contains healing, etc.
Their clocks have stopped ticking in the 7th century CE, and their world view with them.

Even worse, it is a religion that micro-manages every minute of one's waking life, from how to lie in bed over how to wipe one's nose to how to use the toilet. Believers are literally encouraged to turn themselves into an approximation of their venerated founder, replicating his idiosyncratic behaviours and habits.

And while Muhammad was more or less a progressive in his day and age, he's been long since surpassed by others, making his stance on women's rights and gender roles a reactionary anachronism that forces people into very narrowly defined patterns.

The search for new insights and a proper understanding can never proceed from a position of deliberate ignorance, but that's exactly what you get once you assume that all the answers are already there, must not be doubted and hold the key to being rewarded by some celestial potentate.

Miracles of Quran
plz suit yourself

 

[habibii zahra]

In seeking God, I just don't get this eternal life thing. I'd think the seeking is about having God as ones reality in life and how to have that happen.

god is here before your eyes but you just need to see him..he is present everywhere and anywhere..see him with your heart....he is present there..believe in all monotheistic religions because all of them believe in one god..in all prophet because they are messengers from god in all divine books because all of them are revealed from god

 

[ananda]

Miracles of Quran
plz suit yourself

What do you believe miracles prove?

 

[habibii zahra]

What do you believe miracles prove?

the rightness of the Quran being a divine book revealed from the god the one

 

[ananda]

the rightness of the Quran being a divine book revealed from the god the one

There are reportedly miracles from many religions. How do miracles validate anything about a religion?

 

[CherubRam]

Your looking at something after a person dies. Seeking God, and having Him as one's reality in life is something we do now, while we are alive. That's what matters most, in my way of thinking.

Besides the here and now, there is also the future.

 

[dlamberth]

Besides the here and now, there is also the future.

God is not seeked after death. It's something done while we are alive.

 

[toLiJC]

I've stated repeatedly that I've tried to verify Christianity for 30 years, without success.

unfortunately, a big part of the hitherto prevailing christianity has been full of heresies - for many decades

How did I practice my faith wrong?

i didn't mean that you haven't correctly practiced your faith(either it has been buddhism or another), but the faith

How is my IQ relevant?

you know how

If you will not, then that begs the question: when can a legitimate disciple cast out devils?

but first of all should come the question is there a crisis for the true Saints?!, as well as the question how many true Saints are there in this world?!

Blessings

 

[CherubRam]

God is not seeked after death. It's something done while we are alive.

Some people look to the future in regards to what will happen to them.

 

[ananda]

unfortunately, a big part of the hitherto prevailing christianity has been full of heresies - for many decades ... i didn't mean that you haven't correctly practiced your faith(either it has been buddhism or another), but the faith

What heresy did I practice that prevented me from experiencing the true God or Jesus?

you know how

No, that's why I asked.

but first of all should come the question is there a crisis for the true Saints?!, as well as the question how many true Saints are there in this world?!

Blessings

I don't know. I'm opening to observing a "true Saint" delivering me from my Buddhist devils.

 

[habibii zahra]

There are reportedly miracles from many religions. How do miracles validate anything about a religion?

it shows the truth of this religion..if there are miracles then who taught and revealed this book or this religion