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Hey @Divide, you haven't forgotten me now, have you? I'm Particularly interested to know what God literally whispered in your ear...

Oh I didn't forget you. Every time I come to this sight my 'puter starts messing up and fritzing out.
Here's another thread where I recount where God spoke to me.
Post #4 Does God Speak to His Kids?

How do I know these things? I just know. Satan doesn't come and tell us to pray for people. No answers to the universe, just pray for your friend was all.
 
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False accusation since I listed supporting Scripture for my views. Now, it's your time to refute me (prove me wrong) either Scripturally, Scientifically or Historically. You cannot, but go ahead and try and learn something in the process. Amen?

Do your own homework instread of trying to shift the burden of proof.
 
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Oh I didn't forget you. Every time I come to this sight my 'puter starts messing up and fritzing out.
Here's another thread where I recount where God spoke to me.
Post #4 Does God Speak to His Kids?

How do I know these things? I just know.

I say you were hallucinating. How do you know that? I just know.

Satan doesn't come and tell us to pray for people.

That's what he wants you to think!
 
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Oh I didn't forget you. Every time I come to this sight my 'puter starts messing up and fritzing out.
Here's another thread where I recount where God spoke to me.
Post #4 Does God Speak to His Kids?
Oh, thanks for that. So I'm curious after reading that, what of Hindus for example? They have very similar and just as potent accounts of their encounters with their deities, saints and prophets, could it be that your God isn't the only God after all? I gave a few of these Hindu accounts in a conversation with _-iconoclast-_ here in the thread Wherein I catch a profession YEC in a lie 2.0 - perhaps you could give me your point of view on it?
How do I know these things? I just know. Satan doesn't come and tell us to pray for people. No answers to the universe, just pray for your friend was all.
Why? Why would God want you to pray for your friends? Seems a little unusual for God to tell you to pray for your friends to let him know you cared for them... doesn't that seem weird to you? Why not just ask you while he was there? does he need a powerup that only prayers can give? Are you sure it wasn't an Angel, or some ventriliquist prankster who cares about your friend too?

If you believe in Satan, how do you know he doesn't tell people to pray for whatever reason? Perhaps by getting you to pray, he stops you doing another good thing you would otherwise have done that has a far better outcome...?
 
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Please stop butchering the occasional scientific term that you learn along the way. When you say "common ancestor" you're not using that term even close to correct. You don't know what it means. For example, there was a creature that is the ancestor of both chimpanzees and human beings. It's our common ancestor. So when you say, "the common ancestor" you're just showing how ridiculously ignorant you are of the subject. "the common ancestor" of what? What two species??? And "came from Water. That's just nonsense. Literally from water? Out of water? That means NOTHING.

Common ancestors were made by Lord God long before the last universal common ancestor on planet Earth appeared in the WATER Gen 1:21 of our planet 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. The common ancestor of ALL Humans is Adam, who was made with an intelligence like God's Gen 3:22 Billions of years BEFORE the present Earth was made in the 2nd universe. Your's is the view which fits your Caveman ancestors better than today's Humans.

No. That's just nonsense too. There's no evidence of this. There's no way that humans got here from wherever you think they came from. Humans haven't been around for BILLIONS of years. We've only been around for hundreds of thousands of years. On THIS world. We EVOLVED here. There's genetic evidence and fossil evidence. Your particular interpretation of a story is incorrect at best.

Correct, since the FIRST Humans (descendants of Adam) lived on the first Earth which was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 Isa 24:19 Gen 6:13 Noah's grandson's had no other Humans to marry so like Cain on Adam's Earth, they married and produced children with the prehistoric people (sons of God) Gen 6:4 on our Planet who had descended from the common ancestor of Apes. Today's science is "willingly ignorant" ll Pet 3:3 of this Fact since they have rejected God's Truth in favor of the False ToE.

Uh huh. And when Bugs Bunny digs under the ground he goes from country to country in mere moments because I've seen him do it.

That does not agree with Scripture, science nor history, thus is "foolishness".

Whatever you need to believe to get you though the day. I'm sorry, you find the Bible and you read far more into it than I've seen others do and you expect me to either believe you or be ridiculed by you. Neither option is acceptable. You're wrong scientifically and you're incorrect Biblically by any Christian interpretation I've come across. So don't expect me to give your versions of this any credence.

I haven't asked you to give me credence. I just wanted you to know that you are living in the last days which will soon become apparent to ALL flesh. When you realize that God wrote all about our time more than 3k years ago, in Genesis Chapter One, you will remember what I told you today. You will know it when you see it, since it's discovery will come from Science.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh:

It's currently happening and God's Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. All flesh includes atheists, agnostics, and even godless evols who won't believe anything, unless it comes from the object of their worship, the changeable view of Science. Mat 15:9
 
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Do your own homework instread of trying to shift the burden of proof.

I've done my homework and that's WHY you cannot refute me either Scripturally, Scientifically nor Historically. It's really easy to refute you (prove you wrong) since you obviously cannot read and comprehend....as evidenced above.
 
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I've done my homework and that's WHY you cannot refute me either Scripturally, Scientifically nor Historically. It's really easy to refute you (prove you wrong) since you obviously cannot read and comprehend....as evidenced above.
It’s easy to convince yourself you’re right, the trick is knowing when you’re not.
 
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It’s easy to convince yourself you’re right, the trick is knowing when you’re not.
Quite; as Richard Feynman said, "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."
 
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It’s easy to convince yourself you’re right, the trick is knowing when you’re not.

Pro 21:2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes:

That is WHY I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture, science and history and also WHY no one can prove me wrong, since they have but a half/truth.
 
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Pro 21:2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes:

That is WHY I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture, science and history and also WHY no one can prove me wrong, since they have but a half/truth.
Then why do you come off as a complete kook?
 
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I say you were hallucinating. How do you know that? I just know.



That's what he wants you to think!


Aha! The old "Huh-uhhh" defense, lol.

So don't believe me if you don't want to. But it's true, it happened and I wasn't hallucinating.

So there you are. :)
 
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Oh, thanks for that. So I'm curious after reading that, what of Hindus for example? They have very similar and just as potent accounts of their encounters with their deities, saints and prophets, could it be that your God isn't the only God after all? I gave a few of these Hindu accounts in a conversation with _-iconoclast-_ here in the thread Wherein I catch a profession YEC in a lie 2.0 - perhaps you could give me your point of view on it?

I don't know about the Hindus and so forth, but I see what you're getting at. I thought the same thing about the (American) Indians...no Bible, just the great Spirit and all that, and I don't know how God deals with that sort of situation, but He sure does, He has to, those are His children too. I have a sneaking feeling that He does deal with other races in His own way, I just don't know how. These different races and religions may have different names for their God, but, they all lead to the same throne and the same judge and the same God.
I will read the other thread and give you my take on it, sure why not? It might take a day or two because I want to address it since you asked.




Why? Why would God want you to pray for your friends? Seems a little unusual for God to tell you to pray for your friends to let him know you cared for them... doesn't that seem weird to you? Why not just ask you while he was there? does he need a powerup that only prayers can give? Are you sure it wasn't an Angel, or some ventriliquist prankster who cares about your friend too?

If you believe in Satan, how do you know he doesn't tell people to pray for whatever reason? Perhaps by getting you to pray, he stops you doing another good thing you would otherwise have done that has a far better outcome...?

You ask a good question there. Yes, it seemed unusual and weird to me. God certainly does not need my help to help someone, and yet that is what He did. I have speculated on the why of it for quite awhile now, and what I have come up with...might make sense?
Now we do know that after Jesus's resurrection that, the debt was paid in full. I *think* that, it is all there and paid for, and the only thing missing is for us to receive it and accept it. Scripture says, Ye have not because ye ask not...So perhaps God doesn't move on something...until it is prayed for. We ask for it. So even though our miracle is available and waiting for us to receive it...it wont be released unto us, until someone prays and asks for His help?
Am I sure it wasn't an Angel, or a prankster friend? Yes, I'm sure it was not any human being. It was weird too, scripture says my sheep know my voice...Now then, I have never heard the audible voice of the Lord before this...and surprisingly enough, I did know His voice. I knew it down to the core of my being. I can not exactly explain how I knew, I just knew. It was so obvious who it was that it was never a question of who is that. When the tangible presence of God came into that room, it was a thick tangible presence that can't be ignored or missed.

God is really always in the room. He sees and knows everything about everyone. There is no such thing as privacy of thoughts or actions. None of us have been alone at any time in our entire lives. Unseen spiritual beings, however, He mostly keeps Himself hidden from us. We don't see Him or feel His presence as a rule, but when He chooses to reveal Himself somewhat to us for whatever purpose He has...There's no mistaking it brother. When God walks into the room you know it. And yet, He was still mostly hidden when He visited and spoke to me. I did not see anything. I felt His presence and I heard Him. We had a short conversation. No one else was there. I lived alone at the time.

That was not satan man. No way. I have felt the presence of both evil and good and there's a big difference. That was no...distraction from doing some other good deed. I'm no super expert on supernatural beings or anything, but I've been paying attention for a long time, and praying for wisdom and understanding and for discerning of Spirits too, and God has taught me some things. It is written in scripture to always test the Spirits too see if they are of God or not, and I do this, but I actually did not test this Spirit which spoke to me, because I knew who it was. That prolly sounds a little contradictory, but...in effort to explain the gravity of the situation, the presence of God manifested in the room with me...was very intense. It was not just a feeling I had, it was a a tangible and thick presence in that room. Oh yes, it was very real. It might be a little hard to grasp what I'm saying, but I guarantee you that when Jesus walks into the room with you one day...then you will know what I mean.

Satan doesn't tell people to pray for others. That is not how he rolls. Those type of stupid thoughts do come though, because satan wants to cast doubt on everything to do with God. So the evil spirits will whisper that type of crap to you and put those thoughts in your head. But we're to shake that crap off and trust that God is not a liar and hold onto our faith in Him. That's what it is all about. Having faith in God. He wants us to trust Him. and when we do, He is delighted and will stand up to His word, and gives us the desires of our heart. First thing, trust God. To consciously put our faith and trust in an unseen God, and then He will be with us and never leave us or forsake us. I read that and said ok. I choose to do this. I trust God and whatever happens happens, and then a funny thing happened...He started helping me almost daily. I have so many testimonies of things that the Lord has done for me...That it boggles my mind. This been going on for me since 2009. I've been paying attention to how things work out and the Lord has begun to show a pattern with me, in how He helps me. It seems to be...always at the last minute, but never late.

The less that you trust God, the less sense any of this will make. Only after you choose to begin to trust God, that is when He will help you
 
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I don't know about the Hindus and so forth, but I see what you're getting at. I thought the same thing about the (American) Indians...no Bible, just the great Spirit and all that, and I don't know how God deals with that sort of situation, but He sure does, He has to, those are His children too. I have a sneaking feeling that He does deal with other races in His own way, I just don't know how. These different races and religions may have different names for their God, but, they all lead to the same throne and the same judge and the same God.
I will read the other thread and give you my take on it, sure why not? It might take a day or two because I want to address it since you asked.






You ask a good question there. Yes, it seemed unusual and weird to me. God certainly does not need my help to help someone, and yet that is what He did. I have speculated on the why of it for quite awhile now, and what I have come up with...might make sense?
Now we do know that after Jesus's resurrection that, the debt was paid in full. I *think* that, it is all there and paid for, and the only thing missing is for us to receive it and accept it. Scripture says, Ye have not because ye ask not...So perhaps God doesn't move on something...until it is prayed for. We ask for it. So even though our miracle is available and waiting for us to receive it...it wont be released unto us, until someone prays and asks for His help?
Am I sure it wasn't an Angel, or a prankster friend? Yes, I'm sure it was not any human being. It was weird too, scripture says my sheep know my voice...Now then, I have never heard the audible voice of the Lord before this...and surprisingly enough, I did know His voice. I knew it down to the core of my being. I can not exactly explain how I knew, I just knew. It was so obvious who it was that it was never a question of who is that. When the tangible presence of God came into that room, it was a thick tangible presence that can't be ignored or missed.

God is really always in the room. He sees and knows everything about everyone. There is no such thing as privacy of thoughts or actions. None of us have been alone at any time in our entire lives. Unseen spiritual beings, however, He mostly keeps Himself hidden from us. We don't see Him or feel His presence as a rule, but when He chooses to reveal Himself somewhat to us for whatever purpose He has...There's no mistaking it brother. When God walks into the room you know it. And yet, He was still mostly hidden when He visited and spoke to me. I did not see anything. I felt His presence and I heard Him. We had a short conversation. No one else was there. I lived alone at the time.

That was not satan man. No way. I have felt the presence of both evil and good and there's a big difference. That was no...distraction from doing some other good deed. I'm no super expert on supernatural beings or anything, but I've been paying attention for a long time, and praying for wisdom and understanding and for discerning of Spirits too, and God has taught me some things. It is written in scripture to always test the Spirits too see if they are of God or not, and I do this, but I actually did not test this Spirit which spoke to me, because I knew who it was. That prolly sounds a little contradictory, but...in effort to explain the gravity of the situation, the presence of God manifested in the room with me...was very intense. It was not just a feeling I had, it was a a tangible and thick presence in that room. Oh yes, it was very real. It might be a little hard to grasp what I'm saying, but I guarantee you that when Jesus walks into the room with you one day...then you will know what I mean.

Satan doesn't tell people to pray for others. That is not how he rolls. Those type of stupid thoughts do come though, because satan wants to cast doubt on everything to do with God. So the evil spirits will whisper that type of crap to you and put those thoughts in your head. But we're to shake that crap off and trust that God is not a liar and hold onto our faith in Him. That's what it is all about. Having faith in God. He wants us to trust Him. and when we do, He is delighted and will stand up to His word, and gives us the desires of our heart. First thing, trust God. To consciously put our faith and trust in an unseen God, and then He will be with us and never leave us or forsake us. I read that and said ok. I choose to do this. I trust God and whatever happens happens, and then a funny thing happened...He started helping me almost daily. I have so many testimonies of things that the Lord has done for me...That it boggles my mind. This been going on for me since 2009. I've been paying attention to how things work out and the Lord has begun to show a pattern with me, in how He helps me. It seems to be...always at the last minute, but never late.

The less that you trust God, the less sense any of this will make. Only after you choose to begin to trust God, that is when He will help you

I'd be careful doing what a voice that only you can hear wants you to do. That is and never will be a good sign and usually ends badly.
 
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I'd be careful doing what a voice that only you can hear wants you to do. That is and never will be a good sign and usually ends badly.

Yep, that's what they tell me. It's dangerous...but uh, in what way? Would you have any examples of when it ended bad for someone? What happened? What is the danger?
 
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Yep, that's what they tell me. It's dangerous...but uh, in what way? Would you have any examples of when it ended bad for someone? What happened? What is the danger?

The danger is that you cannot be certain what the cause of this "voice" is and doing everything it says can end badly for you or others. What would you do if this voice told you to hurt someone or even kill?

Have you talked to a doctor about this?
 
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The danger is that you cannot be certain what the cause of this "voice" is and doing everything it says can end badly for you or others. What would you do if this voice told you to hurt someone or even kill?

Have you talked to a doctor about this?

Not at all. I am certain what the cause of this voice was. You cannot be certain as you were not there and did not hear it. Doing everything it says could end badly I suppose if...it told me to go harm or kill others...but it didn't tell me to hurt anyone, it told me to pray for someone who needs help...and then they did get the help, so I'm not making the connection that you seem to be making. How did we get from, pray for a man, to...kill him?

Brother, have you not heard the gospel message of God? It's all about walking in love towards our brothers and sisters of the earth. It's not about hurting people or killing people.
 
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