Why isn’t Schiff charged with lying to Congress?

[stevil]

i don't see how displaying the first part of the tweet and including a fullstop at the end alters Jim's message in any appreciable way.
It doesn't contradict what Jim was saying, It doesn't misrepresent it at all.

 

[JustOneWay]

Please. Point to the post where you directly answered these questions and I will immediately offer my public apologies.

You deleted the part where I answered and only concentrated on the end. Sheesh.

1) If removing a part of a tweet (I meant text) and adding a period is altering, then yes that happened.
2&3)The rest of your points really don't matter, (see bolded quote directly below)
4) even if Schiff has done something similar in the past, that is not proof he did so here.

I answered the questions which deserved an answer, and ignored the ones you could easy provide like Jordon or who's in charge. I am not wasting my time answering irrelevant questions where the answer is undeniable. Now that I've told you, you need not 'wonder' any longer.

This has been thoroughly answered by others here, so I won't discus the minutiae. If removing a part of a tweet and adding a period is altering, then yes that happened. The rest of your points really don't matter, and even if Schiff has done something similar in the past, that is not proof he did so here. Sorry, I operate on facts, and unless you can provide actual evidence that Schiff personally altered the text, there is nothing more to say.

This is not debate. Far from it. If you post baseless accusations I will call you out.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Ok so you are ignoring the pets of my questions you don’t deem worthy.
I will do the same with yours.

Have a good day

 

[JustOneWay]

Ok so you are ignoring the pets of my questions you don’t deem worthy.
I will do the same with yours.

Have a good day

Yes, I am ignoring your pets. I may be allergic to them.

 

[Valletta]

I belive a mistake and admitting to is different.

He was caught, as an attorney Shiff was fully aware that doctoring evidence is a crime. He should be disbarred, as per the article below:


"Specifically, the graphic quoted above was achieved by deleting the last part of the original first sentence, which would have read, “ — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence.” One can see how Schiff might not have wanted that part of the sentence in there, so “poof!” the inconvenient phrase was gone.
There was more that Schiff had left out: Schmitz quoted Hamilton citing case law (Hubbard v. Lowe) and used that to support the argument that “an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally elected statute, is no elector at all.”
Schiff had erased the final two paragraphs and the final clause of the first paragraph before substituting his own punctuation to make it look as if that was all there was to the quote. Russell Dye, spokesman for Rep. Jordan, asked, “Is anyone surprised that Adam Schiff is again rifling through private text messages and cherry-picking information to fit his partisan narrative and sow misinformation?”
Schiff Doctored ‘Evidence’ for ‘Special Committee;’ Should Be Disbarred - The Stream

 

[rambot]

Again, how was the message of the tweet altered? Did it say that Jimmy J was going to respect the results of the election or try to undermine it?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

He was caught, as an attorney Shiff was fully aware that doctoring evidence is a crime. He should be disbarred, as per the article below:


"Specifically, the graphic quoted above was achieved by deleting the last part of the original first sentence, which would have read, “ — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence.” One can see how Schiff might not have wanted that part of the sentence in there, so “poof!” the inconvenient phrase was gone.
There was more that Schiff had left out: Schmitz quoted Hamilton citing case law (Hubbard v. Lowe) and used that to support the argument that “an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally elected statute, is no elector at all.”
Schiff had erased the final two paragraphs and the final clause of the first paragraph before substituting his own punctuation to make it look as if that was all there was to the quote. Russell Dye, spokesman for Rep. Jordan, asked, “Is anyone surprised that Adam Schiff is again rifling through private text messages and cherry-picking information to fit his partisan narrative and sow misinformation?”
Schiff Doctored ‘Evidence’ for ‘Special Committee;’ Should Be Disbarred - The Stream

Hmm, I think he is one of the most honest person in Congress.

 

[stevil]

This is like Republicans complaining about Obama's brown suit or complaining about Biden having dated the woman that later became his wife of 50 year when she was married at the time.

It is trivial beyond the pale.
I presume Schiff truncated the message because he didn't want to bore people but quoting the whole thing. The first part got the point of the entire message, missing out the rest didn't change the message at all.
Of course Jim could easily come back and state his entire message if he thought it may have had something of signifiance in it.
The Republican supporters are reaching because they have nothing of significance to say in their defense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

From the link:

At the hearing, Schiff said he wanted to display some of the messages that Meadows received from members of Congress, noting the committee isn't naming the lawmakers while its investigation is ongoing.

The California Democrat then displayed a graphic of one such message, which read, "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."

Schiff described the message as proof that some members of Congress were working with President Trump's White House to thwart the democratic process.

"You can see why this is so critical to ask Mr. Meadows about," Schiff said. "About a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional in order to overturn a presidential election and subvert the will of the American people."

The actual text message that Schiff claimed to display tells a different story, however.
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The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

You either did not read or did not understand the very first post responding to the OP.

 

[Valletta]

This is like Republicans complaining about Obama's brown suit or complaining about Biden having dated the woman that later became his wife of 50 year when she was married at the time.

It is trivial beyond the pale.
I presume Schiff truncated the message because he didn't want to bore people but quoting the whole thing. The first part got the point of the entire message, missing out the rest didn't change the message at all.
Of course Jim could easily come back and state his entire message if he thought it may have had something of signifiance in it.
The Republican supporters are reaching because they have nothing of significance to say in their defense.

LOL It was a quite deliberate doctoring of a message to change the meaning, and he has been caught--there is no denying it. This warrants disbarment and sanctioning.

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL It was a quite deliberate doctoring of a message to change the meaning, and he has been caught--there is no denying it. This warrants disbarment and sanctioning.

How was the meaning changed?

 

[stevil]

LOL It was a quite deliberate doctoring of a message to change the meaning, and he has been caught--there is no denying it. This warrants disbarment and sanctioning.

I can't see anything significant having been changed in the meaning.

 

[disciple Clint]

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Wednesday excoriated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for doctoring his text messages after the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach admitted to misrepresenting Jordan's communications.

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

This is the second time in less than a month that the Jan. 6 committee has acknowledged a major blunder for pushing a false narrative of events.

We need to investigate the investigators, they have lied again and again and again, what they are doing is strictly political, they are simply attempting to eliminate the competition and make it impossible for Trump to get elected again. They are a classic example of people who live by the standard that the end justifies any means.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We need to investigate the investigators, they have lied again and again and again, what they are doing is strictly political, they are simply attempting to eliminate the competition and make it impossible for Trump to get elected again. They are a classic example of people who live by the standard that the end justifies any means.

No need. That the latest charges by the Republicans is false is demonstrated by the simple fact that they cannot show any difference in the meaning of what was said with or without the full text.

 

[rambot]

LOL It was a quite deliberate doctoring of a message to change the meaning, and he has been caught--there is no denying it. This warrants disbarment and sanctioning.

And yet nobody is describing how the meaning changed.

So really this warrants a nice book, a cup of tea, and maybe demonstrating the capacity of humility enough to know when your argument is weak.

 

[rambot]

We need to investigate the investigators, they have lied again and again and again, what they are doing is strictly political, they are simply attempting to eliminate the competition and make it impossible for Trump to get elected again. They are a classic example of people who live by the standard that the end justifies any means.

Is no one going to address the elephant in the room?

 

[JustOneWay]

We need to investigate the investigators

But who will do the investigation to investigate the investigators investigating the investigators? That is what I want to know.

 

[stevil]

They are a classic example of people who live by the standard that the end justifies any means.

Thankfully all the attempts to overthrow the election didn't work.
Trump and his enablers tried very hard. But thankfully their anti-Democratic power grab failed.

Now they and their supporters are fighting very hard to get their means to have no ill consequences on them. They will try again if they see that there are no ill consequences, this seems to be the M.O. of this Republican party.

 

[Valletta]

And yet nobody is describing how the meaning changed.

So really this warrants a nice book, a cup of tea, and maybe demonstrating the capacity of humility enough to know when your argument is weak.

What don't you understand? Schiff doctored the information and made it look like it was a screen shot authored by Jordan. Jordan was NOT the author of the text, and the deleted information was the legal argument for potentially not recognized an un-Constitutional vote. Doctoring the screenshot, falsely attributing it to Jordan, and inserting a period and deleting the information afterward made it look like Jordan was telling Pence not to recognize any vote he did not like. Democrats have issued a rare apology in an effort to keep Schiff on the committee.

 

[JustOneWay]

What don't you understand? Schiff doctored the information and made it look like it was a screen shot authored by Jordan.

Original text:
“On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence. ‘No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.’ The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: ‘That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.’ 226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916).”

'Doctored' text:
“On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."
Rep. Jim Jordan text message to Mark Meadows among Jan. 6 panel files

Jordan was NOT the author of the text,

Jordan spokesperson said the text came from Jordan.
"Mr Jordan’s office told Politico on Wednesday afternoon that “Mr Jordan forwarded the text to Mr Meadows, and Mr Meadows certainly knew it was a forward."
Jim Jordan admits texting Meadows saying Pence should toss out votes from some states
The text came from Jordan, regardless if he wrote it or not. It was on his phone, and he sent it. It makes sense that he did not write the historical stuff. He does not seem to be that smart.

and the deleted information was the legal argument for potentially not recognized an un-Constitutional vote.

This makes little to no sense.

Doctoring the screenshot, falsely attributing it to Jordan, and inserting a period and deleting the information afterward made it look like Jordan was telling Pence not to recognize any vote he did not like.

Shown to be false.

Democrats have issued a rare apology in an effort to keep Schiff on the committee.

Post the link to this info, please.