Why is science wrong?

[AV1611VET]

Hitler was a Christian.

What specifically gives you that idea?

And if he was a member of this forum you would have to acknowledge that he was a Christian.

And if Mr. Hovind was a member of this forum, you would not be allowed to call him a liar.

 

[USincognito]

I'll admit, I did not read your entire post, none of it to be honest. I read the title though. I have watched Superman II, the 80's version and am prepared to answer. Science that rejects a possibility that it hasn't proven wrong is only fooling itself, and more so if it is professing to know better with such a huge doubt.

In other words, Science that rejects God, isn't trust worthy.

Why are you responding to something someone posted 8 years ago?

28th February 2006, 01:08 PM

 

[AV1611VET]

And neither was Germany.....

QV please:

The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science.

SOURCE

 

[Subduction Zone]

What specifically gives you that idea?

He said it himself many many times. He was a bit of a throwback timewise. He acted like 15th or 16th century Christian.

And if Mr. Hovind was a member of this forum, you would not be allowed to call him a liar.

That is true. If a creationist joins this forum it is against the rules to call him a liar no matter how many times that he lies.

You might be able to get away with calling a statement a lie if you could show that the person knew better.

 

[TheBear]

Why are you responding to something someone posted 8 years ago?

28th February 2006, 01:08 PM

Indeed!

 

[EternalDragon]

Hitler was a Christian. And if he was a member of this forum you would have to acknowledge that he was a Christian.

Wow. You are way off base with that one. You need to watch some documentaries or something. Hitler was deeply into the Celtic religion with the swastica symbol, rituals at Wewelsburg Castle, etc. They were very much into developing a cult that did not resemble Christianity at all.

Nazi Temple of Doom on Netflix for starters.

 

[Subduction Zone]

QV please:

SOURCE

And you ignored the associated article:

Religious aspects of Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They had a weird Christianity, but it still was a form of Christianity.

 

[AV1611VET]

He said it himself many many times.

QV please:

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout Catholic mother. Baptized and Confirmed as a child, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, he became disdainful of Christianity, but in power was prepared to delay clashes with the churches out of political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's long term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#cite_note-Bundle-6
SOURCE

 

[KWCrazy]

He said it himself many many times. He was a bit of a throwback timewise. He acted like 15th or 16th century Christian.

Get real.
If Hitler was a Christian then I'm a vermicious knid.
Hitler and the family's dining room table both spent time in home with a religious mother. Hitler was no more Christian then the table was. He never turned his life over to Christ; never learned to love his neighbor as himself, never followed any of the commandments and never acknowledged that Jesus was the son of God who was sacrificed for the sins of man.

It is a deliberate and deplorable falsehood to call Hitler a Christian.

Hitler believed that man evolved, and that the Aryan race had evolved as the master race. Other races were much lower. The Jews were said to be the lowest; barely even human. It was the natural destiny for the Aryan race to conquer the world and rid it of the the Jews, the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], the mentally ill, the chronically ill, and the lazy who would not work. Hitler was a a man driven by hate, not love. He was the opposite of Christ. Some would call him an anti-Christ.

Proclaiming that Hitler was a Christian shows a deep rooted intellectual dishonesty and a seething hatred toward those who are Christians. Why else would you have an image of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in your sig; a cartoon mocking God? I can't believe that such open blaspheme is allowed on a Christian website.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Get real.
If Hitler was a Christian then I'm a vermicious knid.
Hitler and the family's dining room table both spent time in home with a religious mother. Hitler was no more Christian then the table was. He never turned his life over to Christ; never learned to love his neighbor as himself, never followed any of the commandments and never acknowledged that Jesus was the son of God who was sacrificed for the sins of man.

It is a deliberate and deplorable falsehood to call Hitler a Christian.

Hitler believed that man evolved, and that the Aryan race had evolved as the master race. Other races were much lower. The Jews were said to be the lowest; barely even human. It was the natural destiny for the Aryan race to conquer the world and rid it of the the Jews, the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], the mentally ill, the chronically ill, and the lazy who would not work. Hitler was a a man driven by hate, not love. He was the opposite of Christ. Some would call him an anti-Christ.

Proclaiming that Hitler was a Christian shows a deep rooted intellectual dishonesty and a seething hatred toward those who are Christians. Why else would you have an image of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in your sig; a cartoon mocking God? I can't believe that such open blaspheme is allowed on a Christian website.

Fine, you are a vermicious knid then.

You might not like the fact that he was a Christian. He may not have been "Your kind of Christian". That does mean he wasn't a Christian.

What is a lie and a rather despicable one is to call Hitler an atheist or his regime atheistic. Atheists were not well accepted in Hitler's Germany at all:
Discrimination against atheists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[USincognito]

Why are you guys letting AV troll you into derailing a 6 year old thread that he bumped for no other purpose than to troll you???

 

[DogmaHunter]

Of course, one has to overlook such atheistic regimes as:

1. Adolf Hitler, Germany
2. Joseph Stalin, Soviet Union
3. Mao Zedong, China
4. Pol Pot, Cambodia

Hitler's Nazi's = christian at bottom ("Got mit uns" on nazi belts); facism to blame for the attrocities

Stalin, Mao, Pot = communism.

Try again.

 

[selfinflikted]

Why are you guys letting AV troll you into derailing a 6 year old thread that he bumped for no other purpose than to troll you???

Boredom? Lulz?

 

[TheBear]

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[TheBear]

Get real.

Let's do that, shall we?

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

 

[AV1611VET]

You might not like the fact that he was a Christian. He may not have been "Your kind of Christian". That does mean he wasn't a Christian.

It's funny how you guys think Hitler died a Christian, and Darwin died an atheist, isn't it?

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

 

[AV1611VET]

Why are you guys letting AV troll you into derailing a 6 year old thread that he bumped for no other purpose than to troll you???

Yelling isn't good Netiquette.

 

[AV1611VET]

("Got mit uns" on nazi belts);

GOTT MIT UNS on their belts no more made them a Christian, than IN GOD WE TRUST on our coins makes us one.

 

[DogmaHunter]

It's funny how you guys think Hitler died a Christian, and Darwin died an atheist, isn't it?

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

It doesn't matter at all what any of them believed or didn't believe.
What matters is what they did and why they did it.

 

[DogmaHunter]

GOTT MIT UNS on their belts no more made them a Christian, than IN GOD WE TRUST on our coins makes us one.

True. But it does indicate what the underlying religious landscape looked like.
In the US, it indicates a rather christian nation. It indicated the same in nazi Germany. To call it an "atheist regime" is to deny and/or ignore this fact.

They also worked quite closely with the vatican. The previous pope even served in the Hitler Jugend.

But none of this matters. The problem with Nazism was not their religious nonsense or lack thereof. The problem with Nazism (and the soviets etc) was the dogmatic political ideology.

In nazism, this ideology was extreme facism.
In the soviet Union, this ideology was extreme communism.

To blame what happened there on anything else, is like spitting on the graves of the victims of these terrible people.