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Why is my faith not enough?

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Ezekiel 34:11 ‘For thus says the Lord God: “Indeed I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12 As a shepherd seeks out his flock on the day he is among his scattered sheep, so will I seek out My sheep and deliver them from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day. 13 And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land; I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, [b]in the valleys and in all the inhabited places of the country. 14 I will feed them in good pasture, and their fold shall be on the high mountains of Israel. There they shall lie down in a good fold and feed in rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down,” says the Lord God. 16 “I will seek what was lost and bring back what was driven away, bind up the broken and strengthen what was sick; but I will destroy the fat and the strong, and feed them in judgment.”
 
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No, I understand what Paul said. But I'm not an infant anymore. I studied for years to find God's will. I dont believe attending a fallible church is commanded or advised.
I didn't say it was. I haven't attended church in years, but I have a network of believers that I grow with.

I don't believe in creating doctrines that one needs to follow as if it is carved in stone. I let the Holy Spirit lead me within my heart where He lives.

I will say that I probably would have gone to churches again sooner, but as a caregiver it became challenging.

Went to a very nice church. Loved the pastor. The worship was awesome and the songs moving.

Although, i have no problems not attending church in the four walls. I have my network. I also love time alone with God. So much so He has to motivate me to get out

You know why I've been here more than the usual pop in once in a blue like the past.

Dealing with a life and death situation and He keeps showing me things with his body. I was getting frustrated and somewhat upset with Him because I just wanted to know on the situation I've been dealing with. He showed me a thing ot two on that, but kept on with the body of Christ. Last message I was given I felt pointed to his body being given a huge role, but an enemy spirit had cut them badly and they are now hiding in shame.

It was sad. There was more to it, but that is the main thing

I finally gave the Lord what He wanted and left my God bubble, as I call being alone with just me and Him, and I'm venturing forth to see how He may use me to help. I believe He was telling me to trust Him with my situation and step out again to help with what I'm showing you.

Lately I don't feel like it's really going anywhere. Felt it was at first, but not so much now so I'm considering returning to my bubble and staying there again.

I'm just unsure though and He did engage my heart and I'm seeing a miracle unfold before my eyes on this end so I really want to cooperate with Him in whatever He wants from regarding what He's shown me.

So I understand what you are saying, but sometimes we sacrifice what we want for Him and others, all as his Spirit leads us within.
 
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If my faith is enough then the things that divide churches are unnecessary because I have none of those things. Therefore all they must do is get rid of unnecessary things in order to have unity. Do you see my point?
gotquestions.org will help you alot.
 
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I didn't say it was. I haven't attended church in years, but I have a network of believers that I grow with.

I don't believe in creating doctrines that one needs to follow as if it is carved in stone. I let the Holy Spirit lead me within my heart where He lives.

I will say that I probably would have gone to churches again sooner, but as a caregiver it became challenging.

Went to a very nice church. Loved the pastor. The worship was awesome and the songs moving.

Although, i have no problems not attending church in the four walls. I have my network. I also love time alone with God. So much so He has to motivate me to get out

You know why I've been here more than the usual pop in once in a blue like the past.

Dealing with a life and death situation and He keeps showing me things with his body. I was getting frustrated and somewhat upset with Him because I just wanted to know on the situation I've been dealing with. He showed me a thing ot two on that, but kept on with the body of Christ. Last message I was given I felt pointed to his body being given a huge role, but an enemy spirit had cut them badly and they are now hiding in shame.

It was sad. There was more to it, but that is the main thing

I finally gave the Lord what He wanted and left my God bubble, as I call being alone with just me and Him, and I'm venturing forth to see how He may use me to help. I believe He was telling me to trust Him with my situation and step out again to help with what I'm showing you.

Lately I don't feel like it's really going anywhere. Felt it was at first, but not so much now so I'm considering returning to my bubble and staying there again.

I'm just unsure though and He did engage my heart and I'm seeing a miracle unfold before my eyes on this end so I really want to cooperate with Him in whatever He wants from regarding what He's shown me.

So I understand what you are saying, but sometimes we sacrifice what we want for Him and others, all as his Spirit leads us within.

I'm thinking too that maybe He just wanted me to share some things, and He may soon release me at heart and I can go. For now He engaged my heart and as much as I prefer to be in my bubble with Him, I am out.

His gifts can also be activated in fuller measure when we are together for He uses them to bring his will and edify the body. I've had that happen quite often.
 
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I didn't say it was. I haven't attended church in years, but I have a network of believers that I grow with.

I don't believe in creating doctrines that one needs to follow as if it is carved in stone. I let the Holy Spirit lead me within my heart where He lives.

I will say that I probably would have gone to churches again sooner, but as a caregiver it became challenging.

Went to a very nice church. Loved the pastor. The worship was awesome and the songs moving.

Although, i have no problems not attending church in the four walls. I have my network. I also love time alone with God. So much so He has to motivate me to get out

You know why I've been here more than the usual pop in once in a blue like the past.

Dealing with a life and death situation and He keeps showing me things with his body. I was getting frustrated and somewhat upset with Him because I just wanted to know on the situation I've been dealing with. He showed me a thing ot two on that, but kept on with the body of Christ. Last message I was given I felt pointed to his body being given a huge role, but an enemy spirit had cut them badly and they are now hiding in shame.

It was sad. There was more to it, but that is the main thing

I finally gave the Lord what He wanted and left my God bubble, as I call being alone with just me and Him, and I'm venturing forth to see how He may use me to help. I believe He was telling me to trust Him with my situation and step out again to help with what I'm showing you.

Lately I don't feel like it's really going anywhere. Felt it was at first, but not so much now so I'm considering returning to my bubble and staying there again.

I'm just unsure though and He did engage my heart and I'm seeing a miracle unfold before my eyes on this end so I really want to cooperate with Him in whatever He wants from regarding what He's shown me.

So I understand what you are saying, but sometimes we sacrifice what we want for Him and others, all as his Spirit leads us within.
Don't listen to "feelings" they are deceptive.
 
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If my faith is enough then the things that divide churches are unnecessary because I have none of those things. Therefore all they must do is get rid of unnecessary things in order to have unity. Do you see my point?
Awesomely Simple and Accurate Today ! Jesus did not say come to ME and bring all your baggage, NO!

Jesus Says you must leave everything !
 
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Sometimes, not always, but that is another discussion all together.
But i hear you. That is why i am here because the feelings are ones of discouragement, but my heart is still engaged so I'm not going to be moved by those feelings of discouragement. He will either release me at heart, or I'll overcome the discouragement with Him.
 
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Im looking for perfection

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Are you perfect?
 
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All they need do is tell the people as Jesus did, to put the will of God ahead of their own, thus treating each other as they would want God to treat them. Then cut them loose to spread that gospel also as Jesus commanded. After all, it was his Gospel of the Kingdom.
If that's all that's needed, why isn't the Bible only 2 sentences long?
 
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But i hear you. That is why i am here because the feelings are ones of discouragement, but my heart is still engaged so I'm not going to be moved by those feelings of discouragement. He will either release me at heart, or I'll overcome the discouragement with Him.
This is the condition of our fallen human nature and the disease of sin. Satan will have a field day with manipulation of your feelings which is why God's Word is the ultimate source to stand on regardless of your feelings so we must do as He tells us. His Word is the razor that cuts through all confusion.
 
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It's funny because here we have an opportunity to learn from each other but no one ever learns anything.
We plant and water, God makes the seed grow, so go plant and water as you sense Him leading you, and leave the most important part to Him. It can take time for the seed to grow.

I've said that a million times, but needed to hear it again myself.

Love how He works that way, we give and receive. We don't give to receive, but that is how it works.
 
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This is the condition of our fallen human nature and the disease of sin. Satan will have a field day with manipulation of your feelings which is why God's Word is the ultimate source to stand on regardless of your feelings so we must do as He tells us. His Word is the razor that cuts through all confusion.
I hear ya. We just need to be cautious about hear the direction He is giving us personally because the Holy Spirit knows all hearts and where we each are at, at the time and can direct us accordingly.

For instance, sometimes He will show me others are receptive to what I have to offer by showing me a door opening, but even that He will confirm within as we step out in faith.

But absolutely we need to be acquainted with his Word as his Spirit reveals. Otherwise we may miss his words here:

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,
 
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I hear ya. We just need to be cautious about hear the direction He is giving us personally because the Holy Spirit knows all hearts and where we each are at, at the time and can direct us accordingly.

For instance, sometimes He will show me others are receptive to what I have to offer by showing me a door opening, but even that He will confirm within as we step out in faith.

But absolutely we need to be acquainted with his Word as his Spirit reveals. Otherwise we may miss his words here:

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,
And to add to that, if we are remaining in Him we walk with Him, and as I see it, He need only step in when our hearts are off or He wants us to go another direction and we need direction and more clarity on that.

Sometimes Moses needed more direction from God, but at the Red Sea God was like, why you seeking me on that, use what I gave you ...

Which reminds me of the parable of talents too.
 
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I'm just going to make a generalized statement here. If the shoe fits,....then it fits.

Any Christian that "actually" has the regenerated human spirit inside of them from the blood of Jesus will automatically want to be a part of the body of Christ, and be in proximity to them. When I say proximity to them, I mean from 3 to 10 feet from people, not over the internet.

The time of GOD's people living in caves and the holes of the earth was over when Jesus said "it is finished."

This idea that we can become monks and hermits, and live a life apart from other Christians is a false teaching that has no New Covenant support. We cannot minster unto ourselves, we can only minister unto other Christians by grace, and others outside of Christianity by GOD's mercy,.... all of it done by the The Holy Spirit inside of us,..... if you actually have Him inside.

People need to spiritually mature beyond themselves.
 
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f that's all that's needed, why isn't the Bible only 2 sentences long?
The first half shows centuries of back and forth between man and God. Examples. The second half was chosen to give credence to a growing movement that usurped the original movement which followed two simple principles. Done in order to create yet another empire of man. This second half clearly shows also how man refuses to follow the will of God as man will take anything good, including those teo sentences and expand on them for human reasons, and use it for our own purposes. The Bible needed only be two sentences yes, but man can't help showing off.
 
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ARBITER01 [

People need to spiritually mature beyond themselves.
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I say that often about myself. If it were up to me I'd live in my bubble with Him. I, of myself have little to no desire to be out there anymore. Not as young as I used to be and caregiver for years. There is where my heart lies, but He will engage my heart elsewhere at times.

I call myself his spoiled child. I really can be selfish and childish about leaving my bubble, but He encourages me and engages my heart as He sees fit, then there is the special measure that comes with that.
 
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