Why is "MAGA" offensive?

[LivingWordUnity]

No. I don't think so. The venom against Trump is unprecedented in my lifetime.

I'm really believing at this point we are close to civil war, and there is no help for it.

The only time nations become this polarized is before civil war..

People have forgotten how Bush was treated. The way they are treating Trump is not very different than how they treated Bush. The only difference is Bush ignored most of it and didn't fight back. One thing that's unprecedented is how Trump's campaign was spied on by the Obama admin.

 

[wing2000]

The expression is certainly not offensive. Reagan used it to unite and inspire Americans. Trump uses it to divide.

 

[bèlla]

The underlying theme to most of it is fear, which we are commanded over and over again in the bible to not do.

I agree. I don't think it's the ruler but it is definitely involved. Bitterness and rejection are the likely culprits.

I have made conscious choices to avoid certain things because of how it makes me feel, how it makes me think of others or because I want to avoid being so comfortable with certain behaviors that it comes out in my daily speech and how I react to things.

I'm smiling as I read your words. Can I say I'm proud? I hope you receive it with love. It is very difficult to witness what's taking place. Painful in fact. You are wise to be prudent. I've had to trim a lot from my life for those reasons. And there's always warfare when you're helping others. I have to protect my thoughts too.

I commend you for overcoming what you have faced. In my experience very few people question why they do something or think something. I have very little confidence that people are sitting down and reflecting on WHY they are doing something or responding in a certain way. Many just absorb what they hear without question. I feel Trump has influenced many, and not for the better. I see evidence of this far too regularly to rule it out.

Thank you. But the credit goes to the Lord and the Holy Spirit. I could have never survived without Him. And I asked a lot of questions. Trust me! He sent me to Job. And I'm walking out the blessings as we speak. I believe my experiences were for a greater reason. Out of the fire and into the frying pan. It's part of my calling and I needed to be seared and sealed in Him to stare down evil without flinching.

You know what, that's Satan's greatest tactic. The omission of questions allows him to spin the same script repetitively and we never see it. I will leave a nugget for you to consider. Don't reply. See what the Lord gives you instead. ;-)

Take a moment to go outdoors and look at a tree. Study its form and branches. Notice their shape and the nuances you see. One tree can sprout many branches. They won't be identical. But they hail from the same source. Even though they're divided and produce new branches.

A tree can produce many branches which manifest their own leaves or fruit from the same source. All derive their nourishment from the root. And if the root is good the tree bears good fruit. But if the root is bad everything that comes from the tree is so.

There is no difference between the branches. They are identical in every way but presented through different guises. All roads will lead to the same point. It is a gateway and nothing more.

Do you remember the man with 1000 faces? Stay strong.

 

[Hazelelponi]

People have forgotten how Bush was treated. The way they are treating Trump is not very different than how they treated Bush. The only difference is Bush ignored most of it and didn't fight back. One thing about it that's unprecedented is how Trump's campaign was spied on by the Obama admin.

His being spied on by the party in power is only a drop in the bucket of unprecedented occurrences these last couple years.

 

[Kentonio]

People have forgotten how Bush was treated. The way they are treating Trump is not very different than how they treated Bush. The only difference is Bush ignored most of it and didn't fight back. One thing that's unprecedented is how Trump's campaign was spied on by the Obama admin.

The victim card is growing ever weaker. You think we didn’t notice the endless hate and racism displayed towards Obama? The lynching puppets, the monkey insults, the endless accusations that he wasn’t a real American? The guy wore a tan suit and that was enough to have the right wing declaiming him as a disgrace on 24/7 news channels.

The right started the hate wars, long before even Obama came along and now you’re reaping what you sowed. If it tastes bitter, then maybe you should reconsider how you guys talk about and treat those you disagree with politically. If you want respect, then show some to others.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No. I don't think so. The venom against Trump (and anyone who supports him) is unprecedented in my lifetime.

I'm really believing at this point we are close to civil war, and there is no help for it.

The only time nations become this polarized is before civil war..

Both sides are far too lazy and disorganized for this to result in a drawn out civil war. Neither side has anywhere near enough members fully committed to their cause to organize into full on warring factions.

That's not to say where we are socially is anything good. Just that what it takes for both sides to engage in an actual war is far more than any reasonable person would be willing to give. Too many eople have bills to pay, children to feed and lives to live to go die for Trump or Nancy Pelosi.

 

[rambot]

Bush was treated with just as much hate by Hollywood and other left-wing media.

Not on the level I see with Trump.

 

[rambot]

No. I don't think so. The venom against Trump (and anyone who supports him) is unprecedented in my lifetime.

I'm really believing at this point we are close to civil war, and there is no help for it.

The only time nations become this polarized is before civil war..

I bear no ill will to people who support Trump. I pity them more than anything.

But I do agree with your point about bubbling conflict down there for SURE.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Not on the level I see with Trump.

It's more frequent now only because Trump counter punches with every attack against him, but the viciousness against Bush by Hollywood and the rest of the left-wing media was about the same.

 

[Gigimo]

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Trump might have gotten the idea for the slogan from Bill Clinton's use of it.

They used to be friends.

 

[Gigimo]

Context context context...

Reagan's "great again" was a reference to turning around the worsening economy...

Trump's "great again" was a reference to a very different, more divisive, premise...

So what did Clinton mean when he said it?

 

[Gigimo]

Trump might have gotten the idea for the slogan from Bill Clinton's use of it.

They used to be friends.

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You have to wonder how much he had to bribe Clinton and/or associates to do business in NY state??

 

[rambot]

So what did Clinton mean when he said it?

Ask him. Was it a campaign slogan?

Did he print it on millions of Chinese made hats? Was it integral in his getting elected?

Or did he simply end a speech with it as a trite meaningless political phrase?

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

. Trump uses it to divide.

How so?

 

[rambot]

How so?

By using extremely derisive language against people; groups and individuals.

 

[Strathos]

That saying someone who foists Marxist economic policies on the American people is Marxist (in their philosophy for America) isn't doing more than saying if it walks like a duck then calling it a duck isn't a big stretch of the imagination.

And Obama was of Kenyan parentage, so pointing it out also isn't a stretch. It seems you have an issue with truth.

Do you have any idea what actual Marxism entails? It's certainly nothing like the center-right capitalism espoused by Obama. However it seems that today's conservatives think that anyone economically to the left of Ayn Rand is a communist.

 

[Strathos]

Personally, I have already explained why I think Trump is a terrible, terrible president and it has very little to do with him being Republican. It is the quality of his character that makes him unfit to be president.

And frankly, I have a hard time with people who argue the opposite and assume that they are unable to properly judge character. And to be honest, they are more likely to support his boorish,graceless and mean behaviours BECAUSE he has a R behind his name.

If a democrat president acted this way, I'd say the same thing. He is a human of low moral virtue. Just as worthy of God's grace as anyone, but far too narcissistic to consider anything more powerful than him.

He identified as a Democrat a few decades ago. I didn't like him back then either.

Bush was treated with just as much hate by Hollywood and other left-wing media.

That may have had something to do with the pointless war he started that served only to further destabilize the Middle East and get hundreds of thousands of people killed, including thousands of American soldiers.

 

[rambot]

He identified as a Democrat a few decades ago. I didn't like him back then either.

Neither did I.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

By using extremely derisive language against people; groups and individuals.

So how does that justify "feeling offended" by seeing someone wearing a MAGA hat and judge them before a word is even spoken?