Why is "MAGA" offensive?

[Gigimo]

Ask him. Was it a campaign slogan?

Did he print it on millions of Chinese made hats? Was it integral in his getting elected?

Or did he simply end a speech with it as a trite meaningless political phrase?

Personally I don't think that really matters but whatever.

What I've noticed is it doesn't seem to make any difference how many people have used that phrase in the past. It all boils down to "who" has used it that they want to make out to be racist/offensive that really matters, the phrase itself isn't the real issue.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Why are you comparing America to third world countries? If that's your barrier for 'greatness' then it explains a lot about America's self-perception in recent times.

Try comparing US living standards to places like Europe and Japan instead. In some ways you'll come off better, and in many others you'll come off far worse. It's a much more honest comparison and might give you a much better realization of where your country is doing well and where it isn't. It'd certainly be considerably more useful than some mythical concept of 'greatness'.

Again I say, American "Greatness" is not a period of time in American History, it is the brave and courageous men and women who make this country great. Seeing how your profile says you are in France, I am sure the French would agree that the Americans were demonstrating greatness when they liberated Paris from Nazi occupation.

 

[cow451]

Neither did I.

Nor did I.

 

[cow451]

So how does that justify "feeling offended" by seeing someone wearing a MAGA hat and judge them before a word is even spoken?

The person isn’t wearing the hat to keep the sun out of his eyes.

 

[cow451]

Again I say, American "Greatness" is not a period of time in American History, it is the brave and courageous men and women who make this country great. Seeing how your profile says you are in France, I am sure the French would agree that the Americans were demonstrating greatness when they liberated Paris from Nazi occupation.

Remember that the US single-handedly won the war.

 

[cow451]

Given how quickly this has regressed into another "feel good Trump bashing" thread. I just thought I would remind everyone what the OP topic is. Why was "MAGA" okay in 1980 with Regan and now it is offensive with Trump in 2016? Does anyone have any answer other than "Because Trump is bad and if you disagree, you must be a racist."?

Reagan has some morals and class. He had a close relationship with key Democrats like Top O’Neill.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

The person isn’t wearing the hat to keep the sun out of his eyes.

So if the person is wearing the hat because the support the president's just as someone wearing a Chicago Cubs hat because they support their team then at that point it is appropriate to cast judgement?

 

[cow451]

Because - ORANGE MAN BAD

He is bad. On his best day he is a blight on the national landscape.

 

[cow451]

And really, it's not so much "Make America Great Again," as "God shed His grace on thee."



Truth, that. Many Americans seem anxious to destroy what they've got, not realising how much better it is than most of the world.

So, MAGA isn’t really what MAGA means?

 

[Radagast]

So if the person is wearing the hat because the support the president's

Some people won't rest until membership of the Republican party is illegal.

 

[cow451]

So if the person is wearing the hat because the support the president's just as someone wearing a Chicago Cubs hat because they support their team then at that point it is appropriate to cast judgement?

Yes. The point of wearing the hat is to send a message. If I wear a hat that supports a candidate I am sending a message. If my candidate is of the character of Trump, I expect to get feedback. Freedom of expression, baby.

I personally don’t hassle people with MAGA hats because I realize many are misguided. And, it’s not worth my time. And they have the right to their views.

 

[cow451]

Some people won't rest until membership of the Republican party is illegal.

Flame on, baby!

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Remember that the US single-handedly won the war.

I am confused. First, it was an allied victory over WWII, but it was the Americans who liberated Paris with the assistance of French Resistance fighters. But the French were very grateful to the American soldiers who risked/lost their lives. The people of Kuwait valued American Greatness when they were liberated from Saddam Hussein's forces. Did America not demonstrate greatness at the Battle of the Bulge, Iwo Jima, and D-Day? Did they not show greatness during the civil rights movement with Martin Luther King. Did America not show greatness when they landed a man on the moon? Was it not a point of American Greatness when Regan told Gorbachev to "Tear down this wall."? The point is that the source for American Greatness is not the President. It is the American people who make it great. Even when you see the Anti-Trump rallies on the street people are demonstrating the greatness of American because they exercise their freedom of speech. A freedom that would not exist without the brave men and women of this country fighting for it. What isn't great is when people try to attack these hard fought freedoms by pouring soda on a teenage boy at a fast food establishment for no other reason than for wearing a hat that communicated his political support for the President.

 

[cow451]

I am confused. First, it was an allied victory over WWII, but it was the Americans who liberated Paris with the assistance of French Resistance fighters. But the French were very grateful to the American soldiers who risked/lost their lives. The people of Kuwait valued American Greatness when they were liberated from Saddam Hussein's forces. Did America not demonstrate greatness at the Battle of the Bulge, Iwo Jima, and D-Day? Did they not show greatness during the civil rights movement with Martin Luther King. Did America not show greatness when they landed a man on the moon? Was it not a point of American Greatness when Regan told Gorbachev to "Tear down this wall."? The point is that the source for American Greatness is not the President. It is the American people who make it great. Even when you see the Anti-Trump rallies on the street people are demonstrating the greatness of American because they exercise their freedom of speech. A freedom that would not exist without the brave men and women of this country fighting for it. What isn't great is when people try to attack these hard fought freedoms by pouring soda on a teenage boy at a fast food establishment for no other reason than for wearing a hat that communicated his political support for the President.

Many Americans don’t know that the US had help in WWII. You are better informed and I apologize for implying you didn’t know some history.

I just can’t square the idea that a lying, cheating, stealing, grifting real estate “mogul” has anything to do with America’s greatness other than to diminish it.

 

[Strathos]

The words aren't the issue. If there was a politician whose motto was 'peace, love, and fluffy bunnies', and he and his followers would routinely proclaim this while doing [insert objectionable thing here], people would associate the motto and those who used it with those objectionable things.

 

[Goonie]

Many Americans don’t know that the US had help in WWII. You are better informed and I apologize for implying you didn’t know some history.

I just can’t square the idea that a lying, cheating, stealing, grifting real estate “mogul” has anything to do with America’s greatness other than to diminish it.

Just imagine if Donald was in charge in the 30s/40s.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Yes. The point of wearing the hat is to send a message. If I wear a hat that supports a candidate I am sending a message. If my candidate is of the character of Trump, I expect to get feedback. Freedom of expression, baby.

I personally don’t hassle people with MAGA hats because I realize many are misguided. And, it’s not worth my time. And they have the right to their views.

Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that they are misguided but I do appreciate that you value their freedom of speech. So for that I say thank you.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Just imagine if Donald was in charge in the 30s/40s.

He probably wouldn't have waited until Pearl Harbor to finally do something. That's for sure.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Many Americans don’t know that the US had help in WWII. You are better informed and I apologize for implying you didn’t know some history.

I just can’t square the idea that a lying, cheating, stealing, grifting real estate “mogul” has anything to do with America’s greatness other than to diminish it.

I would say that is a fair statement.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

This is why America is the Greatest Country in the World.