• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Why is evolution taught in our schools?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Gene2memE

Newbie
Oct 22, 2013
4,653
7,210
✟343,432.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Again, there have been no transistion species ever recorded down to us, nor sen as evidenced around us today.
When did the any animal change from one species into another?

How are you defining "transitional"? What characteristics would an animal need to possess for you to define it as "transitional"?
 
Upvote 0

Go Braves

I miss Senator McCain
May 18, 2017
9,646
8,980
Atlanta
✟23,068.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Republican
Then try your best to show everyone my error either Scripturally, scientifically or historically. My PhD thesis has never been refuted in any way but I would absolutely love for you to try. God bless you

Well, if you truly have a PhD then surely you are fully capable of answering the extremely simple, straightforward question I asked you pages back. I asked you about your schooling. Did you go to public school, private school, homeschool? Folks rated my previous post as optimistic that I'd expect a simple, straightforward answer to a very basic, simple, straightforward question from a creationist such as yourself, but here is your chance to show that you can do it.
 
Upvote 0

Aman777

Christian
Jan 26, 2013
10,351
584
✟30,043.00
Faith
Baptist
I wasn’t promoting the Big Bang theory, just saying it addresses the origins of the universe. I don’t think it matters because you are referring to the Bible in a discussion on science, and saying you have a PHD in creation... which is pretty silly.

Someone was trying to judge me by my formal education. The only thing on Earth that I am expert in, is that God hid His scientific evidence in Genesis chapter one, which will become known ONLY by the people of the last generation, just before Jesus returns. Daniel 12:4 These last days people will have the "increased knowledge" necessary to understand the literal Truth of Genesis one. IOW, evolutionists.
 
Upvote 0

Aman777

Christian
Jan 26, 2013
10,351
584
✟30,043.00
Faith
Baptist
Well, if you truly have a PhD then surely you are fully capable of answering the extremely simple, straightforward question I asked you pages back. I asked you about your schooling. Did you go to public school, private school, homeschool? Folks rated my previous post as optimistic that I'd expect a simple, straightforward answer to a very basic, simple, straightforward question from a creationist such as yourself, but here is your chance to show that you can do it.

I have nothing to prove to you since my education in God's unchangeable Truth began after my formal education. If you don't believe I have a PhD in creation, then try to refute me either Scripturally scientifically or historically or everyone will see that you are more interested in telling us of your own personal formal education accomplishments than in learning of God's unchangeable Truth. Amen?
 
Upvote 0

Go Braves

I miss Senator McCain
May 18, 2017
9,646
8,980
Atlanta
✟23,068.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Republican
I have nothing to prove to you since my education in God's unchangeable Truth began after my formal education. If you don't believe I have a PhD in creation, then try to refute me either Scripturally scientifically or historically or everyone will see that you are more interested in telling us of your own personal formal education accomplishments than in learning of God's unchangeable Truth. Amen?

You've proven the folks who rated my post stating that you were capable of answering a basic, straightforward question about your schooling as "optimistic" to be correct.
 
Upvote 0

Sparagmos

Well-Known Member
Oct 19, 2018
8,632
7,319
53
Portland, Oregon
✟285,562.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Abiogenesis, or magical chemical generation, is false. My view agrees with Science and History, so I know what happened in the beginning.
What is your view and what is the science that agrees with it?
 
Upvote 0

Aman777

Christian
Jan 26, 2013
10,351
584
✟30,043.00
Faith
Baptist
What is your view and what is the science that agrees with it?

My view is the same as God's. He tells us that He commanded life to be created and brought forth from Water on the 5th Day, which was some 3.8 billion years ago, in man's time. Scientists finally found a consensus that what Genesis 1:21 told us more than 3k years ago AGREES with the latest discoveries of Science which show that ALL life on Earth began in Water. Behold LUCA, the Last Universal Common Ancestor of Life on Earth | Smart News | Smithsonian It's testable proof of God since NO man of the time could have possibly known what Genesis teaches. There are many more recently discovered scientific evidences to go with this one.
 
Upvote 0

expos4ever

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2008
11,253
6,244
Montreal, Quebec
✟304,243.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I have nothing to prove to you since my education in God's unchangeable Truth began after my formal education. If you don't believe I have a PhD in creation, then try to refute me either Scripturally scientifically or historically or everyone will see that you are more interested in telling us of your own personal formal education accomplishments than in learning of God's unchangeable Truth. Amen?
How well does it reflect on you when you claim to be interested in God’s unchangeable truth, yet you won’t answer a clear simple question about your education?
 
Upvote 0

Subduction Zone

Regular Member
Dec 17, 2012
32,629
12,069
✟230,471.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
A story which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind, like the one written in Genesis, changes from faith to fact in the last days of this earth. Daniel 12:4

What are you talking about? A story that has to be reinterpreted after the fact does not count.
 
Upvote 0

Subduction Zone

Regular Member
Dec 17, 2012
32,629
12,069
✟230,471.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
It's because Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood which sank the first Heaven/firmament in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey, some 11k years ago. The present Earth did NOT suffer a Global Flood but Adam's sure did. 2 Peter 3:6
No, just no. We evolved on his world. Your interpretation is neither biblical nor factual.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

Ophiolite

Recalcitrant Procrastinating Ape
Nov 12, 2008
9,286
10,164
✟286,468.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Private
How well does it reflect on you when you claim to be interested in God’s unchangeable truth, yet you won’t answer a clear simple question about your education?
I think it is reasonable for a member to decline to reveal details, or even generalities, about their education. However, this ceases to be the case when they make claims about their education that are used to support their assertions. At that point it becomes mandatory for any reasonable person, any person of integrity, to supply the information. Unfortunately the request has been directed to Aman777.
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,040.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I asked you: if not through evidence, then how do you find out of faith A or faith B is correct. How do you find out if any one of them is correct?
Faith only comes one way:

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the [spoken] word of God. Romans 10.17
 
Upvote 0

Tom 1

Optimistic sceptic
Site Supporter
Nov 13, 2017
12,212
12,468
Tarnaveni
✟841,659.00
Country
Romania
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Why is evolution taught in our public schools? Should it be? Why or why not? I dont think it should be. I'm not saying creationism should be taught in our public schools even if I believe in creationism and think its a good idea in a perfect world. No Satan doesnt want creationism taught to our children so it will never be. I'm just saying that a theory that hasn't been 100% proven shouldn't be taught in our schools as scientific fact.

I mean around 18 years ago when I was in high school it was taught to me that we evolved from monkeys and it was taught to us as if it was a proven fact. Yet science has proven recently that we didn't evolve from monkeys scientists now think we evolved from something else. Well which is it? If evolution is such an ironclad piece of science than why did scientists get it wrong? When teaching evolution why not say that nobody knows exactly where we came from and that evolution is one theory that explains the origins of life?

I mean to an average scientist evolution has been proven and they deny that a God created the universe and to an average Christian scientist creationism has been proven and it's been proven that not only did a God create the universe but it was their God. Do you see what I'm saying? They can't both be right on the origins of life. Either we evolved or Christ created us. But I still argue that you cannot teach a theory as scientific fact and then when parts of it are proven false then say "It's still scientific fact we just got part of it wrong."

C’mon Christians can do better than this. I had the same basic education in biology and chemistry as anyone else, I never had any sense that any teacher was remotely trying to disprove the existence of God. They were just teaching science, it’s a subject that either interests you or it doesn’t. It might have something to do with superficial notions about the bible, but it doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not God exists.
 
Upvote 0

46AND2

Forty six and two are just ahead of me...
Sep 5, 2012
5,807
2,210
Vancouver, WA
✟109,603.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Faith only comes one way:

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the [spoken] word of God. Romans 10.17

That doesn't answer his question.

That's how faith in the Christian god comes (nevermind the fact that this is contradicted by other parts of the Bible, but I digress), but how do you determine that this faith is correct, and the faith of other religions (who have heard THEIR holy scriptures) is wrong?
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,040.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
That doesn't answer his question.
how do you determine that this faith is correct, and the faith of other religions (who have heard THEIR holy scriptures) is wrong?
Like I said, God Himself has to tell you.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Heissonear
Upvote 0

46AND2

Forty six and two are just ahead of me...
Sep 5, 2012
5,807
2,210
Vancouver, WA
✟109,603.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Like I said, God Himself has to tell you.

If god himself actually told you, then it wouldn't be faith.

Further, yours is not the only religion which claims divine revelation. You can't all be correct, right? You or they (or all) must be mistaken about said revelation. How do you know which?
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,040.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
If god himself actually told you, then it wouldn't be faith.
By His definition, it is. And I gave you the bible verse to support that.
yours is not the only religion which claims divine revelation. You can't all be correct, right? You or they (or all) must be mistaken about said revelation. How do you know which?
I doubt I could give you any answer you would understand and accept.
 
Upvote 0

46AND2

Forty six and two are just ahead of me...
Sep 5, 2012
5,807
2,210
Vancouver, WA
✟109,603.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I doubt I could give you any answer you would understand and accept.

I suspect you could...I also suspect that said answer would drive dogmahunter's point home.
 
Upvote 0

46AND2

Forty six and two are just ahead of me...
Sep 5, 2012
5,807
2,210
Vancouver, WA
✟109,603.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
By His definition, it is. And I gave you the bible verse to support that.

The context of that verse does not indicate god himself speaking "his" words to you, but rather his followers.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.