Why is evolution taught in our schools?

[Ophiolite]

You posted: At that point it becomes mandatory for any reasonable person, any person of integrity, to supply the information.



Translation: When you knuckle under to the bullying tactics of Trump and tell us what we wish to know, we can dismiss your uneducated view, but we will call that "integrity". What if I told you I went all the way to the 5th Grade? Would you believe it? Or would you dismiss me as an uneducated heathen imbecile? Does it take a scholar to understand Genesis?

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you:

You have made your educational status part of your argument for your beliefs. It is therefore appropriate that you should honestly describe its nature. Pointing out this simple fact is not bullying. Requesting that you respond appropriately is not bullying. Feel free to answer the question regarding your educational background at any time. Until then this conversation is over.

 

[Subduction Zone]

False, since I didn't list everything I know in the last post. My faith has caused me to seek to find God's Truth, which is the Truth in every way. My view AGREES in every way with every discovery of mankind. It does NOT agree with the False Assumption called the ToE. Is that WHY godless teachers get em young in order to brainwash them into believing the biggest satanic lie in History? Of course it is. Can't have those evolved Apes know that they are really God's children. Can we?

You were given two simple tasks. And you failed at those.

By the way, you can't claim that your views agree with every discovery of mankind and yet deny the theory of evolution. That is a self contradiction.

 

[Heissonear]

It's because Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood which sank the first Heaven/firmament in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey, some 11k years ago. The present Earth did NOT suffer a Global Flood but Adam's sure did. 2 Peter 3:6

Aman, what evidence do you have that it was Lake Van Turkey as the site of the interpreted First Firmament listed in Genesis 1?

And what evidence do you have that "it was within the lake"? That the First Firmament was inside a lake on the face of the Earth?

Thanks

 

[Heissonear]

I believe that the scriptures themselves are inspired by God, and as such, record to us that life was created by God, and all life after its own kind directly!

I agree. It is the Scriptures that are foremost in providing truth.

Science applied to the past is errant.

Some have exalted science above the Bible. They have idolized science in doing so.

 

[Aman777]

By the way, you can't claim that your views agree with every discovery of mankind and yet deny the theory of evolution. That is a self contradiction.

The ToE, is not a scientific fact and it's false assumptions cannot be repeated. It's most obvious failure is in teaching the lie that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Adam was made billions of years before LUCA appeared in the water of planet Earth, from where Apes evolved billions of years LATER.

That means that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Humans (descendants of Adam) could have descended from creatures made some 10 Billion years later or 3.8 Billion years ago. Science has mistakenly classified the sons of God (prehistoric people) as Humans (descendants of Adam). The first Humans suddenly appeared only 11k years ago, in the mountains of Ararat exactly as God told us and the empirical evidence is still there. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE That's God's Truth which no man can refute.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The ToE, is not a scientific fact and it's false assumptions cannot be repeated. It's most obvious failure is in teaching the lie that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Adam was made billions of years before LUCA appeared in the water of planet Earth, from where Apes evolved billions of years LATER.

That means that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Humans (descendants of Adam) could have descended from creatures made some 10 Billion years later or 3.8 Billion years ago. Science has mistakenly classified the sons of God (prehistoric people) as Humans (descendants of Adam). The first Humans suddenly appeared only 11k years ago, in the mountains of Ararat exactly as God told us and the empirical evidence is still there. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE That's God's Truth which no man can refute.

Oh my, you keep demonstrating that you do not even understand the very basics of science. Would you like to have a discussion on the basics? It will make you a better debater.

 

[Aman777]

Aman, what evidence do you have that it was Lake Van Turkey as the site of the interpreted First Firmament listed in Genesis 1?

The first firmament which God called Heaven was made the 2nd Day under water, since water was above and below the firmament which protected Adam's Earth from the water which surrounded the first Heaven, according to Genesis 1:6-8. God brought Adam's firmament to our universe, placed it in the biggest Lake in the mountains of Ararat and opened it's windows on high. It rained for forty days and nights and the bottom of the firmament began to fill with water. As it sank into the Lake, this released the 450 ft long Ark safely into the Lake. Human civilization on this Earth can be traced back to the Arks arrival in Lake Van.

And what evidence do you have that "it was within the lake"? That the First Firmament was inside a lake on the face of the Earth?

The first firmament was very small when compared to our Universe since Lake Van is only 75 miles wide. We know this because the highest point on Adam's Earth was only 22.5 feet high. The flood covered the highest mountain when it reached a depth of 15 cubits or 22.5 feet. Genesis 7:20

The bottom of the solid firmament, which protected Adam's Earth from the water which surrounded it, is STILL under 11k years of volcanic debris. Finding the firmament will be finding proof of life from beyond our Universe. That's God's Truth in Genesis, for the people in the last days before the return of Jesus. God bless you

 

[Aman777]

Oh my, you keep demonstrating that you do not even understand the very basics of science. Would you like to have a discussion on the basics? It will make you a better debater.

Your arrogance is surpassed only by your willing rejection of God's Truth instead of the changeable part truths of Science.

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your arrogance is surpassed only by your willing rejection of God's Truth instead of the changeable part truths of Science.

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

How am I arrogant? If I am wrong about my assessment of your education a short discussion would show me to be wrong. If anything you are the arrogant one here. It appears that you have no science education to speak of. To reject a helpful offer is not only arrogant, your falsely claiming that others are arrogant is hypocritical to say the least.

Once again, would you care to discuss the basics of science?

 

[Aman777]

Once again, would you care to discuss the basics of science?

Sure, if you can tell us HOW ancient men (who you think wrote the Bible) knew and correctly wrote of the time period between the big bang on the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4 and when the first stars lit up on the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16 If not, you are incapable of discussing the true basics of science from more than 3k years ago. Do you have a PhD in ancient Truth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure, if you can tell us HOW ancient men (who you think wrote the Bible) knew and correctly wrote of the time period between the big bang on the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4 and when the first stars lit up on the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16 If not, you are incapable of discussing the true basics of science from more than 3k years ago. Do you have a PhD in ancient Truth?

Nope, none of the nonsense that you use. And no claims of false degrees. I too could claim that I got a degree in a box of Cheerios.

if you understand the sciences it will be quickly apparent. If you do not, that too will be observable by all.

One more time, do you care for a discussion on the basics of science?

 

[Gene2memE]

The first Humans suddenly appeared only 11k years ago, in the mountains of Ararat exactly as God told us and the empirical evidence is still there.

What features and behaviours did these 'Humans' exhibit that would distinguish them from Homo Sapiens Sapiens of the preceeding ~40,000 years?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

If it helps, call it Boolean Logic.

We are body, soul, and spirit.

When the soul = 1 and the spirit =1, then God's information flows and enlightens us.

So your answer to the question "how do you know it is correct", seems to be "because i believe it is".

 

[DogmaHunter]

Easy. IF Genesis is true then it MUST agree with every discovery of mankind and history.

It doesn't. Not even by a long shot.

The ToE is a provable lie which does not agree with Science, History or God's Holy Word. Want to see?

Yet somehow, the entire scientific community seems to have missed that.
It's them you would need to convince. Which shouldn't be a problem if you actually can. But you can't, can you?

 

[DogmaHunter]

I agree. It is the Scriptures that are foremost in providing truth.

Science applied to the past is errant.

Some have exalted science above the Bible. They have idolized science in doing so.

You can call it what you wish off course, but if your position is that a ~2500 year old religious story actually trumps scientific knowledge when science disagrees, then your opinions and beliefs concerning science and actual reality are rendered effectively irrelevant.

You're putting yourself outside of that discussion.
You're sacrificing rationality for a belief.

You are most welcome to do that, but then your beliefs won't be relevant to people who actually value knowledge and demonstrable truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

So your answer to the question "how do you know it is correct", seems to be "because i believe it is".

Let's try this again, and I'll use thermodynamics this time.

If you hold on to a lead pipe, and hot water starts flowing through it, what happens?

Your hand gets warm, doesn't it?

Okay ... once again:

When the soul and the spirit are in sync with God, enlightenment is experienced.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Let's try this again, and I'll use thermodynamics this time.

If you hold on to a lead pipe, and hot water starts flowing through it, what happens?

Your hand gets warm, doesn't it?

Okay ... once again:

When the soul and the spirit are in sync with God, enlightenment is experienced.

I can measure the temperature of the pipe warming up in an objective manner and don't need to rely on anyone's word that it's warming up - I don't even need to rely on my own senses, which could also trick me in a variety of ways.

How do I objectively measure this "divine enlightenment"?


See, this is the point. It always comes down to "you just have to believe".
It's not evidence based or objective knowledge. It's mere blind subjective belief.

 

[AV1611VET]

I can measure the temperature of the pipe ...

Okay, I stopped right here and didn't go any further.

Have a nice day.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Okay, I stopped right here and didn't go any further.

Off course you did.

 

[AV1611VET]

Off course you did.

For the record, I did go back and read it after I cooled down.