Why I will not buy a Ford

[dpartlow]

Paul told us to avoid buying Idol Meat (1 Cor 8) because it funds heretical behavior. See also Eph 5:11.
For the clearest explanation - see this post:
http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=39880431&postcount=7


That is why I (and over a million other Christian Families) will not buy a Ford...

From AFA.NET: A partial list of Ford's 2007 track record in support of homosexuality:

• January - Sponsored graphic homosexual scene on FX network's "Dirt."
• March - Diversity Inc. lists Ford as fifth highest corporate supporter of homosexuality.
• April - Gives $10,000 donation to PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays).
• May - Gave $10,000 to become a sponsor of the 2007 Out and Equal Workplace Summit to be held in Washington, DC.
• June - A 12-week study showed Ford as the top sponsor of homosexual television network shows.
• Ford helped sponsor Cleveland Lesbian-Gay-Bi-Trans Pride Parade and Festival. Ford also had a festival booth and banner to market its support for homosexual celebrations!
• Ford sponsored the 2007 Seattle Gay Pride Parade.
• July - Ford places its fifth full-page ad in homosexual magazines OUT and Advocate for 2007.
• August - For announces eighth straight monthly sales loss for year.
• Just announced by Human Rights Campaign, Ford Motor Company donates $25,000 to aid group in its fight to defeat a Federal Marriage Amendment.

Other top sponsors to avoid (I'd ask for your input in helping to fill out this list & alternatives - Thanks)​

Automobiles 5. Ford/Volvo/Mazda/Jaguar/LandRover 34. General Motors 42. DaimlerChrysler 38. Cummins Also avoid: Toyota

Alternative : Nissan has no such policies and has the biggest assembly plant in the U.S. (I regret that I can't buy a purely American Car, but have told my Ford dealer I will buy a Mustang as soon as the boycott is lifted - and Ford has ended it's promotion of homosexuality).

Food/Beverages: 2. Pepsi Bottling Group 4. The Coca-Cola Co. 10. PepsiCo 32. General Mills, Also avoid: Kraft (See brands below), Altoids, Cargill, Quaker Oats, Whole Foods**

Alternatives: (Most of the products offered are junk foods and we would be lot healthier physically and spiritually if we avoided them altogether), Heinz, Hormel, Nestle

Household/Medical: 14. Proctor & Gamble (see brands below) 16. Novartis, 17. Johnson & Johnson, 18. Merck, 26. Colgate-Palmolive 30. Abbott 35. Kodak Also avoid:GlaxoSmithKline**, Pfizer, Bausch&Lomb, Corning, Estee Lauder, S.C. Johnson, Whirlpool, Unilever, CCA Global(Carpeting/Lighting)**, DuPont**

Alternative : Maytag, Purina, Rubbermaid, Bayer

Clothing/Retail/Restaurants 41. Walmart 45. Darden Also avoid: Walgreens, Starbucks, Papa John's Pizza, Best Buy, Borders, BP (Gas Stations), Chevron**, Gap, Nordstrom, Nike**, Levi, American Girl, OSI Restaurants**, Hardees/Carl Jr., Sears**, Sonic**,

Alternatives: Rite-Aid, Dominos Pizza, Chick-fil-a, Wendy's, ExxonMobile

Financial: 1. Bank of America** 9. JPMorgan Chase 11. Wachovia 20. Wells Fargo 22. Citigroup 23. American Express 24. Prudential 31. KeyBank 36. HSBC 37. Comercia Also avoid: Merrill-Lynch, Harris Bank, Wamu (Washington Mutual), CitiNational, RoyalBank of Canada, Cigna**, Capital One, Schwabb, CSFB, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Nationwide**, SunTrust, Mellon

Alternative : There are over 30,000 Banks, Credit-Unions, and Savings Institutions in the country, MBNA,

Insurance: 15. BlueCross/BlueShield, 27. Kaiser-Permanente 33. Health Care Service 40. Allstate** Also avoid: AIG, Chubb, MetLife, Aetna

Alternative :

Hotels/Gaming 39. MGM Mirage, 46. Marriot**, 47. Starwood Also avoid:InterContinental Hotels (Holiday Inn, Crowne Plaza...), Wyndham, Four Seasons**

Alternative :

Tech/Telecom/Cable 3. AT&T 6. Verizon 7. Xerox, 28. Sprint/Nextel 49. HP Also avoid:Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Lucent, Cisco, Dell, Freescale, Intel, NCR,SBC, SCE, Sun, Unisys, Raytheon, Honeywell,Adobe**

Alternative : (Need Help on this one) Emerson Electric,

Media/Cable/Content: Time Warner** 21. Turner Broadcasting (TNT, CNN) 25. Cox 48. Comcast** Also avoid: Lodgenet, Nickelodeon, Showtime, Walt Disney**, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Intuit, CMP Media, E-bay**

Alternative : CBN

Services: 12. PWC, Delloite, 43. Ernst & Young, 50. Accenture Also avoid: United Rentals, Bloomberg, Thomson, Orbitz, Standard & Poors, Agilent

Alternative : Grant Thornton, Perot Systems,

Utilities: 8. ConEdison, 29. Sempra Also avoid: PG&E

Alternative : Many areas now offer alternative utility services.

Alcohol/Tobacco: Also avoid: Anheuser-Busch, Miller Brewing, Molson, PhilipMorris (Frankly I would avoid the entire industry - but especially these companies)

Airlines: Also avoid: Delta, American Airlines, US Airways

** Names also supportive of Abortion Clinics.

Charities (Which despite whatever stated mission they have, are using contibutions to support Planned Parenthood): Audubon Society, Alzheimer's Association, American Association of Retired Persons (AARP), American Diabetes Association, Council of Churches (including Church World Service, and CROP Hunger Walks), Glaucoma Research Foundation, Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA), National Education Association (NEA), National Multiple Sclerosis Society, Save the Children, and the Sierra Club, Outward Bound West, American Automobile Association (AAA), Kaiser Permanente, American Cancer Society, Dr. Phil Foundation, American Association of Retired Persons (AARP), Camp Fire, Girl Scouts, Kiwanis Club, Rotary International, March of Dimes, Lions Club, Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, American Diabetes Association, and the Young Womens Christian Association (YWCA).

P&G Brands to Avoid​

Crest/Fixodent/Gleem/Scope/Oral-B Dental Products;Head&Shoulders/HerbalEssences/Infusium23/Pantene/Clairol/Camay/Ivory/Safeguard/Aussie/Zest/ /Soaps/Shampoo
Gillette/Braun Shaving, Max Factor/CoverGirl Cosmetics & Noxzema/Olay Creams; Cascade/Dawn/Ivory/Joy Dish Detergents, Tide/Bounce/Cheer/Downy/Dreft/Era/Febreze/Gain/Ivory Laundry & Fabric Care; Bounty/Charmin/Puffs Tissue/Paper, Luvs/Pampers Diapers, Always/Tampax Feminine Products; Vicks/Metamucil/Fibersure/Align/Braun/Pepto-Bismol/Children'sPepto/Prilosec/ThermaCare Health Care; Febreze/Mr. Clean/Swiffer Household Products, Folgers/Pringles//Home Café/Millstone Food Products; Duracell Batteries, Eukanuba/Iams Pet Nutrition; Actonel/Asacol/Dantrium/Didronel/Enablex/Macrobid/Macrodantin Prescription Drugs, Old Spice/Secret/HUGO/ESCADA/BOSS /BALDESSARINI /LACOSTE /NAOMICAMPBELL/Giorgio/Ghost/PUMA/Valentino/Beverly Hills/bruno banana Fragrance

Kraft Brands to Avoid​

Coffee: Sanka, Maxwell House, Yuban, General Foods International, Gevalia, Seattle's Best Coffee*, Starbucks*, Tassimo, Tazo*, Torrefazione Italia

Foods: Kraft, Nabisco, Light n' Lively, Philadelphia, Jell-O, Oscar Mayer, Louis Rich, Claussen, Tombstone, Velveeta, DiGiorno, Temp-tee,South Beach Diet, Taco Bell*, California Pizza Kitchen*, , Jack's, Lunchables, Back to Nature, Boca, Woody's, Breakstone's, Knudsen, Athenos, Churny, Cracker Barrel Cheese, Handi-Snacks, Harvest Moon, Polly-O, Old English, Cheez Whiz, Easy Cheese, Baker's Cocoa, Calumet, Bull's-Eye, CarbWell, Postum, Shake ‘n Bake, Oven Fry, Grey Poupon, Sauceworks, Cool Whip, Dream Whip, D-Zerta, Knox Gelatine, Minute, Balance, Ever Fresh, Certo, Sure-Jell, Honey Maid, Nilla, Oreo,

Cereals: Post, Raisin-Bran, Alpha-Bits, Banana Nut Crunch, Blueberry Morning, CarbWell, Cranberry Almond Crunch, Frosted Shredded Wheat, Fruit & Fibre, Golden Crisp, Grape-Nuts, Great Grains, Honey Bunches of Oats, Honeycomb, Natural Bran Flakes, Oreo O's, Pebbles*, Toasties, Waffle Crisp, 100% Bran; Good Seasons Dressings, Seven Seas, Miracle Whip, A. 1., Stove Top

Cookies/Crackers/Nuts: Planters, Oreo, Back to Nature, Triscuit, Barnum's Animals, Biscos, Café Creme, Cameo, Chips Ahoy!, Dad's, Famous Chocolate Wafers, Family Favorites, Old Fashioned, Ginger Snaps, Lorna Doone, Mallomars, Marshmallow Twirls, National Arrowroot, Newtons, Nilla, Nutter Butter, Oreo, Pecan Passion, Pecanz, Pinwheels, SnackWell's, SnackWell, Social Tea, South Beach Diet, Teddy Grahams, Wild Thornberry's*, Air Crisps, Better Cheddars, Cheese Nips, Crown Pilot, Doo Dad, Flavor Crisps, Harvest Crisps, Honey Maid, Nabisco Grahams, Nabs, Premium, Ritz, Royal Lunch, Stoned Wheat Thins, Uneeda, Vegetable Thins, Wheatsworth, Wheat Thins, Zwieback, Comet Cups, Corn Nuts, PB Crisps

Candy: Jet-Puffed, Kraft Caramels, Terry's, Toblerone

Other Beverages: Country Time, Crystal Light, Kool-Aid, Tang, Capri Sun*, Fruit20,Veryfine

This link gives a very good explanation of why we should be conscious of such things when we shop (I'm not Catholic, but most Christians can agree with what is said here):
http://www.livingcatholicism.com/archives/2006/03/withholding_fun.html

 

[MrJim]

Oh,
I don't buy fords 'cause MOPAR rules

<<well domestically anyway~everyone knows Honda & Toyota runs the world >>

 

[TigerLily5]

So does Disney.

 

[flicka]

You know, if you could sic a PI on every company in existance to dig the dirt you wouldn't buy anything. Ever.

 

[dpartlow]

You know, if you could sic a PI on every company in existance to dig the dirt you wouldn't buy anything. Ever.

I agree it would not have many of the big national names. But there are plenty of smaller local companies that have a clear conscience. That's why I'm asking for peoples assistance/contributions on alternatives.

And if some of the larger ones are made to see the error of their ways, maybe they and others will repent.

 

[TigerLily5]

If every Christian would stick together, there would quite possibly be a lot of new business opportunities!

 

[irateional]

If every Christian would stick together, there would quite possibly be a lot of new business opportunities!

I'm pretty sure that Paul didn't want us to do that. Secondly, we already have that. Christian music, Christian selfhelp, Christian dating, Christian stores, Christian yoga, it's all just one gigantic moneymaking scheme.

So what if Ford supports gay rights? Our government kills innocent people! Should we ignore every company just because they support that which we don't? Here's a hint. You'd have nothing left.

 

[TigerLily5]

I'm pretty sure that Paul didn't want us to do that. Secondly, we already have that. Christian music, Christian selfhelp, Christian dating, Christian stores, Christian yoga, it's all just one gigantic moneymaking scheme.

So what if Ford supports gay rights? Our government kills innocent people! Should we ignore every company just because they support that which we don't? Here's a hint. You'd have nothing left.

uh huh

 

[KEPLER]

I agree it would not have many of the big national names. But there are plenty of smaller local companies that have a clear conscience. That's why I'm asking for peoples assistance/contributions on alternatives.

And if some of the larger ones are made to see the error of their ways, maybe they and others will repent.

Two books every Lutheran should read on how Christians relate to the world and the culture around them:

Christ & Culture, H. Ruchard Niebuhr
The Spirituality of the Cross, G. E. Vieth

Boycotts are for fundamentalists, not Lutherans.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Oh,
I don't buy fords 'cause MOPAR rules

<<well domestically anyway~everyone knows Honda & Toyota runs the world >>

That's kinda what I was thinking, except that I was going to just make a general, "Ford sucks!" statement.

 

[Jesusrocksmypinksocks]

I will try not to buy any of these items from Wal-mart ...

Uh, wait a minute ... what about Wal-mart?

Are they on the list too ...

Food/Beverages: 2. Pepsi Bottling Group 4. The Coca-Cola Co. 10. PepsiCo 32. General Mills, Also avoid: Kraft (See brands below), Altoids, Cargill, Quaker Oats

Alternatives: (Most of the products offered are junk foods and we would be lot healthier physically and spiritually if we avoided them altogether), Heinz, Hormel, Nestle

Household/Medical: 14. Proctor & Gamble (see brands below) 16. Novartis, 17. Johnson & Johnson, 18. Merck, 26. Colgate-Palmolive 30. Abbott 35. Kodak Also avoid:GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Bausch&Lomb, Corning, Estee Lauder, S.C. Johnson, Whirlpool, Unilever

Alternative : Maytag, Purina, Rubbermaid, Bayer

Clothing/Retail/Restaurants 41. Walmart 45. Darden Also avoid: Walgreens, Starbucks, Papa John's Pizza, Best Buy, Borders, BP (Gas Stations), Chevron, Gap, Nordstrom, Nike, Levi, American Girl

Alternatives:. Rite-Aid, Dominos Pizza, Chick-fil-a, Wendy's, ExxonMobile

Financial: 1. Bank of America 9. JPMorgan Chase 11. Wachovia 20. Wells Fargo 22. Citigroup 23. American Express 24. Prudential 31. KeyBank 36. HSBC 37. Comercia Also avoid: Merrill-Lynch, Harris Bank, Wamu (Washington Mutual), CitiNational, RoyalBank of Canada, Cigna, Capital One, Schwabb, CSFB, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Nationwide, SunTrust, Mellon

Alternative : There are over 30,000 Banks, Credit-Unions, and Savings Institutions in the country, MBNA,

Insurance: 15. BlueCross/BlueShield, 27. Kaiser-Permanente 33. Health Care Service 40. Allstate Also avoid: AIG, Chubb, MetLife, Aetna

Alternative :

Hotels/Gaming 39. MGM Mirage, 46. Marriot, 47. Starwood Also avoid:InterContinental Hotels (Holiday Inn, Crowne Plaza...), Wyndham

Alternative :

Tech/Telecom/Cable 3. AT&T 6. Verizon 7. Xerox, 28. Sprint/Nextel 49. HP Also avoid:Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Lucent, Cisco, Dell, Freescale, Intel, NCR,SBC, SCE, Sun, Unisys, Raytheon, Honeywell,

Alternative : (Need Help on this one) Emerson Electric,

Media/Cable/Content: 21. Turner Broadcasting (TNT, CNN) 25. Cox 48. Comcast Also avoid: Lodgenet, Nickelodeon, Showtime, Walt Disney, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Intuit, CMP Media

Alternative : CBN

Services: 12. PWC, Delloite, 43. Ernst & Young, 50. Accenture Also avoid: United Rentals, Bloomberg, Thomson, Orbitz, Standard & Poors, Agilent

Alternative : Grant Thornton, Perot Systems,

Utilities: 8. ConEdison, 29. Sempra Also avoid: PG&E

Alternative : Many areas now offer alternative utility services.

Alcohol/Tobacco: Also avoid: Anheuser-Busch, Miller Brewing, Molson, PhilipMorris (Frankly I would avoid the entire industry - but especially these companies)


Airlines: Also avoid: Delta, American Airlines, US Airways

P&G Brands to Avoid​

Crest/Fixodent/Gleem/Scope/Oral-B Dental Products;Head&Shoulders/HerbalEssences/Infusium23/Pantene/Clairol/Camay/Ivory/Safeguard/Aussie/Zest/ /Soaps/Shampoo
Gillette/Braun Shaving, Max Factor/CoverGirl Cosmetics & Noxzema/Olay Creams; Cascade/Dawn/Ivory/Joy Dish Detergents, Tide/Bounce/Cheer/Downy/Dreft/Era/Febreze/Gain/Ivory Laundry & Fabric Care; Bounty/Charmin/Puffs Tissue/Paper, Luvs/Pampers Diapers, Always/Tampax Feminine Products; Vicks/Metamucil/Fibersure/Align/Braun/Pepto-Bismol/Children'sPepto/Prilosec/ThermaCare Health Care; Febreze/Mr. Clean/Swiffer Household Products, Folgers/Pringles//Home Café/Millstone Food Products; Duracell Batteries, Eukanuba/Iams Pet Nutrition; Actonel/Asacol/Dantrium/Didronel/Enablex/Macrobid/Macrodantin Prescription Drugs, Old Spice/Secret/HUGO/ESCADA/BOSS /BALDESSARINI /LACOSTE /NAOMICAMPBELL/Giorgio/Ghost/PUMA/Valentino/Beverly Hills/bruno banana Fragrance

Kraft Brands to Avoid​

Coffee: Sanka, Maxwell House, Yuban, General Foods International, Gevalia, Seattle's Best Coffee*, Starbucks*, Tassimo, Tazo*, Torrefazione Italia

Foods: Kraft, Nabisco, Light n' Lively, Philadelphia, Jell-O, Oscar Mayer, Louis Rich, Claussen, Tombstone, Velveeta, DiGiorno, Temp-tee,South Beach Diet, Taco Bell*, California Pizza Kitchen*, , Jack's, Lunchables, Back to Nature, Boca, Woody's, Breakstone's, Knudsen, Athenos, Churny, Cracker Barrel Cheese, Handi-Snacks, Harvest Moon, Polly-O, Old English, Cheez Whiz, Easy Cheese, Baker's Cocoa, Calumet, Bull's-Eye, CarbWell, Postum, Shake ‘n Bake, Oven Fry, Grey Poupon, Sauceworks, Cool Whip, Dream Whip, D-Zerta, Knox Gelatine, Minute, Balance, Ever Fresh, Certo, Sure-Jell, Honey Maid, Nilla, Oreo,

Cereals: Post, Raisin-Bran, Alpha-Bits, Banana Nut Crunch, Blueberry Morning, CarbWell, Cranberry Almond Crunch, Frosted Shredded Wheat, Fruit & Fibre, Golden Crisp, Grape-Nuts, Great Grains, Honey Bunches of Oats, Honeycomb, Natural Bran Flakes, Oreo O's, Pebbles*, Toasties, Waffle Crisp, 100% Bran; Good Seasons Dressings, Seven Seas, Miracle Whip, A. 1., Stove Top

Cookies/Crackers/Nuts: Planters, Oreo, Back to Nature, Triscuit, Barnum's Animals, Biscos, Café Creme, Cameo, Chips Ahoy!, Dad's, Famous Chocolate Wafers, Family Favorites, Old Fashioned, Ginger Snaps, Lorna Doone, Mallomars, Marshmallow Twirls, National Arrowroot, Newtons, Nilla, Nutter Butter, Oreo, Pecan Passion, Pecanz, Pinwheels, SnackWell's, SnackWell, Social Tea, South Beach Diet, Teddy Grahams, Wild Thornberry's*, Air Crisps, Better Cheddars, Cheese Nips, Crown Pilot, Doo Dad, Flavor Crisps, Harvest Crisps, Honey Maid, Nabisco Grahams, Nabs, Premium, Ritz, Royal Lunch, Stoned Wheat Thins, Uneeda, Vegetable Thins, Wheatsworth, Wheat Thins, Zwieback, Comet Cups, Corn Nuts, PB Crisps

Candy: Jet-Puffed, Kraft Caramels, Terry's, Toblerone

Other Beverages: Country Time, Crystal Light, Kool-Aid, Tang, Capri Sun*, Fruit20,Veryfine

 

[bliz]

Paul told us to avoid buying Idol Meat (because it funds heretical behavior). /quote]

Your Bible clearly has in it some verses that mine does not. Can you tell me where Paul tells peole not to eat meat that had been previously offered to idols?

 

[dpartlow]

Two books every Lutheran should read on how Christians relate to the world and the culture around them:

Christ & Culture, H. Ruchard Niebuhr
The Spirituality of the Cross, G. E. Vieth

Boycotts are for fundamentalists, not Lutherans.

I quite disagree and would venture to say M. Luther would too, for he revered the letters of Paul above even the synoptic gospels.

And in them Paul tells us to 'boycott' idol meat. (1Cor8) Which is what I intend to do. It is not necessarily because there is anything inherrently evil about a steak, a Ford car, or a Jet-Puffed Marshmallow (which is the message of 1Cor10), but it is about setting a good example. There are many people out there who see the actions of these companies, and the events, and programs they sponsor and think "Oh, I guess it's o.k. Hmm, all these companies are sponsoring this Pride Parade - I guess homosexuality is really o.k. afterall - those Christians are just a bunch of killjoy's"

I don't think that way, and maybe you don't either, I know what the Bible teaches is right and wrong, but I have heard what Paul says about setting an example for others. Similarly, I have Christian friends who don't drink. Personally I do, once in a while, but to the extent that it sets a bad example - or offends other Christians - I should resist - and I do try.

Furthermore, it is my earnings, and I can do with it as I choose, and if I or any other Christian choose to prefer buying products from companies which do not actively contradict our Christian beliefs - why should we not do so?

As a Christian consumer (and investor) in a capitalist society drenched in apostacy - it is my duty to spend and invest in ways that do not further the apostacy. Think about it - these companies are sponsoring organizations which are trying to tempt MY children into sin. They are paying for the insidious crap which gets put on television. They are subsidising pornography with their advertisement. This is not about companies pursuing market segmentation strategies. This is about protecting our children.

Christ tells us that the eye is the lamp of the body, the window through which outward light may shine,
But when through it only darkness passes, our heart's fruits wither on the vine.
In other words, being bombarded by heresies can make us vulnerable to them.
Maybe not you, but don't you care about the millions of developping Christians who are?
The sins that the parent (and society) tolerate, the children embrace.

It is not an easy thing to observe a boycott - and I certainly do not condemn anyone for not doing so. But telling people not to vote their conscience with their wallets, is wrong. I encourage you to re-think your position.

 

[beyelzu]

thank you for the headsup about ford, assuming i can find a decent ford product, i think imight make my next car purchase a ford.

it is nice seeing companies make decisions to treat people like human beings even when it might not be popular with some bigots.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I feel really sorry for all those employees you'll be leaving without a job.

Boycotting is cutting off yours hand to cure your headache.

 

[beyelzu]

I feel really sorry for all those employees you'll be leaving without a job.

Boycotting is cutting off yours hand to cure your headache.

i dont think so, companies ultimately are affected by one thing, the bottom line.

i like to support companies who i think are responsible and do the right thing.

if enough people feel this way, companies will change their policies.

so i actually agree that ford's sales should be impacted by what they fund politically.

i just happen to like that they are gay friendly though.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

i dont think so, companies ultimately are affected by one thing, the bottom line.

i like to support companies who i think are responsible and do the right thing.

if enough people feel this way, companies will change their policies.

so i actually agree that ford's sales should be impacted by what they fund politically.

i just happen to like that they are gay friendly though.

Boycotting Ford has been proven fruitless though. As they keep giving to homosexual causes even though organizations like AFA keep trying to drag them down. So either it's not working or Ford is a very firm wall. I'm against boycotting either way. It's a long painful process to get anything done generally and you typically end up leaving innocent people without a job in smaller lots before any effect takes in.

 

[greenjeans]

I'm all for boycotts for certain reasons,
but this list is so big, wouldn't it be more helpful to have a list to only to buy from, I think that this list would be shorter, I'm not knocking this at all, but I find it's more helpful saying only buy from these companies because they have christian values and if they are not the list people won't buy, a big list only gets people to throw up there hands and say there's nothing I can do it's every where and they boycott fails. this is just my 2 cents

 

[KarrieTex]

Not giving up my Ford Trucks.

Nope not going to do it.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Not giving up my Ford Trucks.

Nope not going to do it.

You drive a Ford! Haw Haw!