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Why evolution isn't scientific

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Evolution isn't science.

It is a faith-based philosophy of endless genealogies that Solomon calls an "invention," and Paul calls a "philosophy" and "endless genealogies" and "fables."
Variation generated by mutations: FACT
Variation leads to a statistical variation in success in reproduction: FACT
Over longer periods and larger numbers the more successful variety will increase it's proportion in the population: FACT (This one is even in the Bible) ;)
If a population gets split into two populations different traits can become common: FACT
Two sub populations can become so different that reproduction becomes difficult or impossible: FACT

Those are all you need for evolution to occur.

Evidence of these phenomena occurring over a very long time scale with very marked changes have been found.
These time scales and environmental changes are consistent with other fields of study: mainly physics, geology and astronomy.

From all this evolution from a common ancestor isn't supposition or a just so story, it's a reasonable conclusion from evidence... or "connect the dots", if you are particularly silly.
 
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I don't care what group deceived evolutionists say we're from.

Are we four-footed or aren't we?

If you answer anything but YES, then I submit your philosophy's inventor is trying to hide something.
It's the name for the group to define it's origin. It's the four-foot family of animals.

It's like surnames. If you meet someone and the say their name is Johnathon Goldsmith do you think they are "hiding something" if they say they are an accountant and not a crafter of jewelry?
 
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so? so your claim that this fossils doesnt predate the missing links between fishes and tetrapods is incorrect. its indeed predate many of them.



Finding tetrapods in rocks where they shouldn't be would be a problem for evolution, yes.
Got any? No? Didn't think so.

so according to your criteria- finding a 420 my old tetrapod fossil will falsify evolution because its a pre-devonian rock, but if the same fossil will be 419 my old its just fine with evolution? do you realy think that its make sense?
 
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Variation generated by mutations: FACT
Variation generated by common mating two to three orders of magnitude greater than mutations: FACT

PHENOTYPIC AND GENETIC EFFECTS OF HYBRIDIZATION IN DARWIN'S FINCHES. - PubMed - NCBI

"New additive genetic variance introduced by hybridization is estimated to be two to three orders of magnitude greater than that introduced by mutation."

Variation leads to a statistical variation in success in reproduction: FACT
Not fact. It all depends if that variation gives it an advantage in the current climate, which changes constantly.....

Over longer periods and larger numbers the more successful variety will increase it's proportion in the population: FACT (This one is even in the Bible) ;)
Agreed, because variation from mating is two to three orders of magnitude greater, which the Bible writers understood.....

If a population gets split into two populations different traits can become common: FACT

And they will still be the same species. Think Wolf and Poodle, African and Asian....

Two sub populations can become so different that reproduction becomes difficult or impossible: FACT

That's what they said about finches for 180 years. That's what they said about Lions and Tigers for 50......

Those are all you need for evolution to occur.
Those ar all you need for variation to occur, which does not show evolution at all....

Evidence of these phenomena occurring over a very long time scale with very marked changes have been found.
Evidence that every single fossil creatures remains the exact same from the oldest found for that creature to the youngest fossil found for that creature are indeed a fact and falsify your claim....

These time scales and environmental changes are consistent with other fields of study: mainly physics, geology and astronomy.
Because they insert mysterious unknown, undetected and unexplainable garbage into their theory to describe why their theory which is 99.8% correct in the solar system fails outside it....

From all this evolution from a common ancestor isn't supposition or a just so story, it's a reasonable conclusion from evidence... or "connect the dots", if you are particularly silly.

So from "strange matter" and a theory being 99.8% correct that needs 95% Fairie Dust added to it to correct it, you draw that concussion??????
 
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Variation generated by mutations: FACT
It's called microevolution ... a term now Arab-phoned to just "evolution."
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Variation leads to a statistical variation in success in reproduction: FACT
Whatever that meant.

You said "statistical," so I assume it's only on paper.

Probably just microevolution disguised as macro.
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Over longer periods and larger numbers the more successful variety will increase it's proportion in the population: FACT (This one is even in the Bible) ;)
Microevolution applied to macro.
Shemjaza said:
If a population gets split into two populations different traits can become common: FACT
Microevolution applied to macro.
Shemjaza said:
Two sub populations can become so different that reproduction becomes difficult or impossible: FACT
Yup ... they hit a barrier at the edge of their "kind" that God set up, and they can't cross it.
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Those are all you need for evolution to occur.
Micro.
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Evidence of these phenomena occurring over a very long time scale with very marked changes have been found.
By moving the decimal point as needed.

Thus 6000 years conveniently becomes 60,000 years, which conveniently becomes 600,000 years, which conveniently becomes 6,000,000 years, and so on and so forth as Satan's lies get bigger and bigger.
 
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From all this evolution from a common ancestor isn't supposition or a just so story, it's a reasonable conclusion from evidence... or "connect the dots", if you are particularly silly.

so a self replicating car+ small steps over time= airplane?
 
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There are no self-replicating car. When your analogy contains things that do not exist they are beyond worthless.
so if there was a self replicating car you will agree that such a car can evolve into an airplane?
 
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Yes it does as I have facts, papers and physical reality to back me up.
You think you do.

God's spiritual reality trumps your physical reality in spades.

So you'll never see it on your clipboard, will you?

(Unless, of course, it's some "scientifically-accepted" name, created to mock Jesus Christ.

Like "El Niño" or ... even more blasphemous ... "La Niña.")
 
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You think you do.

God's spiritual reality trumps your physical reality in spades.

So you'll never see it on your clipboard, will you?

(Unless, of course, it's some "scientifically-accepted" name, created to mock Jesus Christ.

Like "El Niño" or ... even more blasphemous ... "La Niña.")

No, physical reality is reality.

Everything else is just belief. Trying to include magic in science is a fools errand and an auto-loss in a debate.
 
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No, physical reality is reality.

Everything else is just belief. Trying to include magic in science is a fools errand and an auto-loss in a debate.

Tell that to those who think adding 95% Fairie Dust to a theory already 99.8% accurate without it means science.....
 
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The same has always applied to you.
That's because I expose evolution for what it is -- not to mention I also expose who's running the halls of higher academia now.
 
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We ARE tetrapods.

False. Human blood was contaminated when Noah's grandsons had no other Human (descendant of Adam) to marry. They married and produced offspring Genesis 10:10 with the descendants of the sons of God Genesis 6:4 (prehistoric people) who had been on Earth from millions of years, BEFORE the first Human on planet Earth (Noah) arrived.

The sons of God (prehistoric people) had their origin in Water as Genesis 1:21 states. Humans (descendants of Adam) had our origin from the dust of the ground Genesis 2:7. You have confused the two kinds, which means that evolutionists have been force teaching a provable Lie to our innocent children for years. In the end, there will be shame, then weeping and gnashing of teeth. Luk 13:28
 
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No, you are quite simply wrong.

Finally, an evolutionist who can tell us how and when we changed from animal intelligence to the superior intelligence of God. Genesis 3:22 Tell us the process, which is totally unique to Humans and which goes against the only way to change Human intelligence, from outside of our bodies. Tell us of the magic of evolution or realize that it is you who is wrong. The ToE is the biggest satanic lie ever told.
 
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Right, right... what with the space-ark and all.

:rolleyes:

False, since Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was more like a Submarine than a space ship. The 450 ft long Ark was INSIDE Adam's firmament, which was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 More study is indicated to halt your totally confused ideas.
 
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Finally, an evolutionist who can tell us how and when we changed from animal intelligence to the superior intelligence of God. Genesis 3:22 Tell us the process, which is totally unique to Humans and which goes against the only way to change Human intelligence, from outside of our bodies. Tell us of the magic of evolution or realize that it is you who is wrong. The ToE is the biggest satanic lie ever told.

Humans are animals, ergo human intelligence is animal intelligence.
 
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Humans are animals, ergo human intelligence is animal intelligence.

False, since the common ancestor of ALL Humans was formed from the dust of the ground by Jesus, on the 3rd Day, before the plants herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Humans are "His kind" or the kind Jesus made, which were subject to death.

"Every living creature that moveth" was created by God the Trinity on the 5th Day, from Water, some 9 billion years, in man's time, after Adam was formed. Genesis 1:21 They are "Their kind" or the kinds made eternally.

Today's Humans are a combination of Humans (descendants of Adam) and the descendants of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who descended from Water. Genesis 6:4
 
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so? so your claim that this fossils doesnt predate the missing links between fishes and tetrapods is incorrect. its indeed predate many of them.





so according to your criteria- finding a 420 my old tetrapod fossil will falsify evolution because its a pre-devonian rock, but if the same fossil will be 419 my old its just fine with evolution? do you realy think that its make sense?

really? THIS is why you were INSISTING that someone place a number on it? Pathetic.

Look at it this way, the closer it gets to 420 million, the less likely it would be to find such a fossil if evolution is legit.
 
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really? THIS is why you were INSISTING that someone place a number on it? Pathetic.

Look at it this way, the closer it gets to 420 million, the less likely it would be to find such a fossil if evolution is legit.

Actually it just switches the problem as now it's supposed predecessor's had to evolve on a different timescale. Shorter and shorter and shorter.....
 
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