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We should. He is all powerful, all knowing, and etc. If he really was all those things, he should've *known* we would not love each other, he made us that way. He should also have the *power* to stop murder and slaughter of his own children. It's like watching your children kill themselves and you as a parent, just watch and go "It's not my fault, I told them not to".
How would we not exist if evil did not? He could also make it so we would still exist and take evil away because he is all powerful.
No one seems to understand that, he can make the laws of time and anything you know...if he existed.If you were unable to be unloving toward anyone you as you are today would not exist.
You don't seem to get the concept that love is not love if you have no choice.He could also make it so we would still exist and take evil away because he is all powerful.
There is evidence but you have to want to see it and if you refuse to see it you will not see it. That is your choice. I have no reason to believe in Faries. I have reasons to believe in a loving Creator.
Look at my icon. Maybe you have to look for more of that. Where is the evidence of God? I don't mean a metophoric example, I mean a real true reason to believe in him.
So what? Doesn´t change anything about their beneficial actions.
Could we please get over the "robot" nonsense strawman? I am not talking about a robot, but a living being that is hardwired to be happy (have positive feelings and emotions) and act positively.
I see no problem with that as long as everybody is happy and acts positively. Your sort of love would be unnecessary in this scenario.
What you mean is objective verifiable evidence and proof. If there were some we would not have to believe. There is none. As I said I have real true reasons to believe, but if you are to find such evidence you must seek and and be open to finding it. Evil is the lack of love and acting in an unloving way. You ask for a world in which we are unable to be unloving. That is not this world and it is not a better world you are asking for, but a world that has no one capable of being loving.
Yes it does change something about their beneficial actions. It means the beneficial action is not their actions.
Could we please recognize that a being that is hardwired to act in only one way is a robot?
If this living being can only act positively it cannot act. It can only fulfill its progamming which is action by the programmer, not the living being.
Love on the part of the living being would not exist in this scenario. I question that this being could be called a living being as a human being with choices can be or even a non human being with choice can be called a living being. Is being alive defined by our ability to make conscious choices? I think perhaps it is.
Look, I used to be Christain. So I was always open to the "truth". I "found" Jesus when I was 12. I finally found Reality later. You tell me to look for the "evidence" of god. What is it? Where is it? Did they like find DNA samples pointing to a god existing? Or is it just another one of your metophors such as "God is love". Muslims can probably tell you to just look for the evidence of Allah.
I don´t see how this would be any problem.
No, we cannot recognize that, simply because it is false. There are plenty of other things and beings of that kind. Let alone that you just stated that such things do not act.
This terminology is questionable, to say the least.
So what? Everything would be fine without love.
Then call it something else. I don´t feel like semantics today.
When I said a "living organism" I meant something different. If you are not sure what I mean when saying "living organism" feel free to ask (it´s basically the meaning as used in biology), but please don´t change the meaning of my words by introducing pretty unusual redefinitions.
Not one other person seems to understand that if your god existed, he could make us an interesting life, without having babies getting burned, and allowing genocide, and allowing his todler children to kill eachother.
What the fudge is the point of making a world filled with evil and suffering in the first place?
Who the fudge would care? Atleast we wouldn't have to go through it. Atleast we wouldn't have pictures like the one I have in my icon.
That´s why I personally prefer to ask the question "Why did your god create a world where evil is necessary for there to be good, while he obviously has the ability to lefthandedly create worlds in which good can be there without evil?" over the OP question.
