Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[Loudmouth]

Perhaps. Sure.

Then let's see it.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Then let's see it.

Paciencia, señor Evidencia!

 

[HKS]

The church had a similar problem with the idea that the Earth moved about the Sun.

Should be simple (but apparantly it isn't): One should accept laws of nature such as the Earth moving about the Sun and Evolution as Truths, rather than rewriting said laws to fit one's own (literal) understanding of Scripture.

Praising God should not equal reality warping.... Fighting science is belittling God.

 

[selfinflikted]

That would be the difference between comics and the Bible, but that is not the question. What is the difference between a comic strip hero/supernatural entity and the God of the Bible? (reading back to Davian's reply to AV -- link to follow: here)

One is commonly accepted as fiction, while the other is commonly accepted as real. Ironically, of course.

 

[selfinflikted]

Should be simple (but apparantly it isn't): One should accept laws of nature such as the Earth moving about the Sun and Evolution as Truths, rather than rewriting said laws to fit one's own (literal) understanding of Scripture.

Praising God should not equal reality warping.... Fighting science is belittling God.

Curious: The Bible says god created the first man, Adam, from the dust of the ground (as an adult, commonly accepted) and the first woman, Eve, from Adam's rib. I assume you don't take this story literally, as you seem to be championing evolution, and I assume common descent. The Bible also says Jesus was the son of god, was crucified, then rose from death. How do we know this (or any other fantastical story found in the Bible) isn't simply metaphor, too? How can one tell the difference between literal truth and metaphor in the Bible?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

One is commonly accepted as fiction, while the other is commonly accepted as real. Ironically, of course.

My question is actually addressing the matter of the difference between super-heroes (such as a Wonder Woman who was an Amazon with super-powers) or supernatural entities (such as Superman - who came from another planet) and the God of the Bible.

The post I am discussing: here
The post which you responded to: here

 

[Justatruthseeker]

My question is actually addressing the matter of the difference between super-heroes (such as a Wonder Woman who was an Amazon with super-powers) or supernatural entities (such as Superman - who came from another planet) and the God of the Bible.

Umm, they had origins. You now, beginnings. Unlike the energy that makes thought possible - and from which all things are and is in all things.

Why is Superman a supernatural entity? Isn't he just an alien who's race evolved on another world?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Curious: The Bible says god created the first man, Adam, from the dust of the ground (as an adult, commonly accepted) and the first woman, Eve, from Adam's rib. I assume you don't take this story literally, as you seem to be championing evolution, and I assume common descent. The Bible also says Jesus was the son of god, was crucified, then rose from death. How do we know this (or any other fantastical story found in the Bible) isn't simply metaphor, too? How can one tell the difference between literal truth and metaphor in the Bible?

When we have the same sort of strong scientific argument to show that Jesus was not God, then perhaps we can begin deconstructing Christianity. It's not happening and will probably never happen, as science does not yet have a prayer. (deliberate pun)

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Umm, they had origins. You now, beginnings. Unlike the energy that makes thought possible - and from which all things are and is in all things.

Yeah there is that, but down to specific differences with regard to specific attributes, between a comic strip hero (such as Wonder Woman) or Superman ('an alien who's raced evolved on another world' - but who was as human as we are, except he didn't originate here and had super powers) and the God of the Bible.

The post I am discussing: here
The post which you responded to: here

 

[Booko]

Why is Superman a supernatural entity? Isn't he just an alien who's race evolved on another world?

Superman's abilities seem to violate a few laws of physics, so that could make him more supernatural than alien.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Superman's abilities seem to violate a few laws of physics, so that could make him more supernatural than alien.

Correction, that would make him less supernatural and more alien (seeing as aliens are less human and more other).

 

[Booko]

Correction, that would make him less supernatural and more alien (seeing as aliens are less human and more other).

The supernatural (Medieval Latin: supernātūrālis: supra "above" + naturalis "nature", first used: 1520–30 AD)[1][2] is that which is not subject to the laws of physics or, more figuratively, that which is said to exist above and beyond nature.

Violating the laws of physics is the very definition of "supernatural", as you see.

Aliens only violate the laws of physics in science fiction.

 

[Loudmouth]

Should be simple (but apparantly it isn't): One should accept laws of nature such as the Earth moving about the Sun and Evolution as Truths, rather than rewriting said laws to fit one's own (literal) understanding of Scripture.

Praising God should not equal reality warping.... Fighting science is belittling God.

That describes my own position when I was a christian.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure, I can tell the difference between comic strip heroes/supernatural entities and the God of the Bible. Can you?

I doubt they can.

That's what they have the Antichrist Lovers Union for.

 

[Loudmouth]

When we have the same sort of strong scientific argument to show that Jesus was not God, then perhaps we can begin deconstructing Christianity.

That sudden change in the rotation of the Earth was caused by a massive shift in the burden of proof.

It is you that needs to demonstrate that Jesus is God since you are the one making the claim.

 

[crjmurray]

I doubt they can.

That's what they have the Antichrist Lovers Union for.

That's not a real thing.

 

[Loudmouth]

I doubt they can.

That's what they have the Antichrist Lovers Union for.

You do realize that the ACLU defends religious people in cases where their 1st amendment rights have been violated, don't you?

 

[Davian]

It's got nothing to do with pretending to speak for a deity, it's more along the lines of offering a gentle warning to someone who seems quite incapable of telling the difference between said deity and comic strip heroes/supernatural entities.

What is this impending danger that I should be aware of?

That being said, do you know the difference between the God of the Bible and said comic strip heroes/supernatural entities? Care to enlighten our readers.

Rather than asking, can you not detail that yourself?

 

[Davian]

Umm, they had origins. You now, beginnings. Unlike the energy that makes thought possible - and from which all things are and is in all things.

Why is Superman a supernatural entity? Isn't he just an alien who's race evolved on another world?

Another race, or another species?

"The issue of Superman fathering a child has been one of some debate. In the case of procreation with an Earth woman, it has been established in recent comics continuity that Kryptonian and Terran DNA are incompatible (this was also the prognosis in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman). However, this has not always been the case in the comics, or other forms of media.

Superman has also fathered children with women of other races. Kryptonian primarily, but also other super-powered beings such as Wonder Woman."

Superman as a father - Superman Wiki

 

[Davian]

When we have the same sort of strong scientific argument to show that Jesus was not God, then perhaps we can begin deconstructing Christianity. It's not happening and will probably never happen,

Science cannot prove a negative, or falsify the unfalsifiable. Keep moving those goalposts ahead of the ball.

as science does not yet have a prayer. (deliberate pun)

Neither does religion, but it carries on, due to inertia.