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Why do Leftists/Liberals support Muslims and not Christians?

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Why do the Leftists (liberals, progressives, atheists, pagans, marxists, western socialists and communists, south and central American socialists and communists, the Hollywood crowd, the press etc., etc.,) support Muslims and even Jihadist Muslims and repressive Islamic regimes and countries, but they are literally vitriolic and extremely oppositional towards Evangelical Christians???
 

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Not if evidence is a guide.

What you think is evidence is actually not. What you'll find is that you assume that all Muslims are evil jihadist suicide bombers who want to take over the world, and people like me tell you that you are wrong. You then assume that because we say that, we must be defending all these super-evil Muslims, when in fact we are not; we are merely pointing out that not all Muslims want you dead. You then decide that because the more right-wing Christians tend to hold this view, because we disagree with it then we are therefore attempting to oppress them, because we're not letting them be right about everything.
 
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Why do the Leftists (liberals, progressives, atheists, pagans, marxists, western socialists and communists, south and central American socialists and communists, the Hollywood crowd, the press etc., etc.,) support Muslims and even Jihadist Muslims and repressive Islamic regimes and countries, but they are literally vitriolic and extremely oppositional towards Evangelical Christians???

You're channeling Archie Bunker again...
 
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I consider myself a liberal, progressive, atheist, marxist, socialist communist and I support neither Islam nor Evangelical Christianity.

I put more effort into opposing Evangelical Christianity because it's more relevant to my life. I see evangelicals protesting on my street, on the news, and at the polls. If I lived in a predominantly Islamic country, I'd probably direct my efforts accordingly. Hope this helps.
 
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Why do the Leftists (liberals, progressives, atheists,

I'm a laissez-faire capitalist. I'm a "Leftist"?

pagans, marxists, western socialists and communists, south and central American socialists and communists, the Hollywood crowd, the press etc., etc.,) support Muslims and even Jihadist Muslims and repressive Islamic regimes and countries, but they are literally vitriolic and extremely oppositional towards Evangelical Christians???

Do we? I don't recall ever personally supporting Muslims over Christians. I have plenty of problems with "Islamic regimes and countries".


eudaimonia,

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Assuming it to be a fact - The reason is: "Leftists" have lived under predominately Christian/Judeo-Christian/Deist (who'd identify their deity as the Judeo-Christian one) rule . . they don't like it because the world view conflicts with theirs (sins being wrong, more freedom - less government, laws that make sense . . . you know, everything the left hates). Leftists have not lived under Islamic rule and Moslems represent a rapidly breeding voting block. Leftists also believe that if Moslems vote for them now, it is because they have supporters who are Moslem, not Moslems who will quietly climb their ranks and subbvert their party. In short, the left supports Islam because they think they can control it and use the votes.
 
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Why do the Leftists (liberals, progressives, atheists, pagans, marxists, western socialists and communists, south and central American socialists and communists, the Hollywood crowd, the press etc., etc.,) support Muslims and even Jihadist Muslims and repressive Islamic regimes and countries, but they are literally vitriolic and extremely oppositional towards Evangelical Christians???

I don't support Muslim extremists. And I would probably fall into one of these categories, depending on your definition.

So how many people who fall into these categories who report not supporting Muslim extremists will it take to change your mind on this issue?
 
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The OP is waaay overgeneralizing, and is dead wrong about mainstream American liberals. The extremes on both left and right might have a soft spot for Islamic radicals. Extreme leftists (who are usually European and 3rd world) identify with Muslim anti-Americanism and anti-Zionism. Extreme rightists identify with Muslim anti-Semitism.

Most all American liberals are only slightly left wing (and really more centrist) by world standards. But they do tend to be skeptical of religious authority. Muslim fundamentalism is about as authoritarian as a religion can be, and is totally abhorrent to typical American liberals. Though that same attitude would also apply to authoritarian varieties of Christianity, which some (not all) Evangelicals exhibit.
 
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I consider myself a liberal, progressive, atheist, marxist, socialist communist and I support neither Islam nor Evangelical Christianity.

I put more effort into opposing Evangelical Christianity because it's more relevant to my life. I see evangelicals protesting on my street, on the news, and at the polls. If I lived in a predominantly Islamic country, I'd probably direct my efforts accordingly. Hope this helps.

Yes except in a predominantly Islamic country you would either loose social position, be imprisioned or worse
 
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Why do the Leftists (liberals, progressives, atheists, pagans, marxists, western socialists and communists, south and central American socialists and communists, the Hollywood crowd, the press etc., etc.,) support Muslims and even Jihadist Muslims and repressive Islamic regimes and countries, but they are literally vitriolic and extremely oppositional towards Evangelical Christians???


Well duh! We have formed an unholy allience where they get to take over the world and we get to keep eating kittens.
 
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We dislike the extremist muslims as much as the Chrisitans.

Trouble is, in the US except for the rare attack How many muslims and not americans have actually done terrorist attacks in the US other then 911?

But in the US/Canada, you have the Christians trying to repress gay rights, repress real science, attacking vaccinations global warming, attacking evolution and most sciences without facts and making stuff up. We have Muslims that are a problem from time to time, but in the end it's ultimatly the fundementalist Chrisians that do the most problems right now.
 
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We dislike the extremist muslims as much as the Chrisitans.

Trouble is, in the US except for the rare attack How many muslims and not americans have actually done terrorist attacks in the US other then 911?

But in the US/Canada, you have the Christians trying to repress gay rights, repress real science, attacking vaccinations global warming, attacking evolution and most sciences without facts and making stuff up. We have Muslims that are a problem from time to time, but in the end it's ultimatly the fundementalist Chrisians that do the most problems right now.

Well dont worry Wolfwing, we will all be out of here one day, then you can go crazy, and do whatever you want, and you wont have us pesky Christians to bother you.
 
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