Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[Extraneous]

Its only an attack on the men of church government who derived their authority and wealth from the claim that their writing is Gods writing.

God doesn't write books, Jesus didn't leave ANY writing behind and for this very reason!!!

Man, you cant be more blinded. Have you never read Revelation? How about John 14?

 

[Root of Jesse]

You have peace, but so do atheists, so that means nothing.

Different kind of peace, built on ignorance of what real peace is.

Its a lack of knowledge on your part. I didn't study Catholicism, nor science, but i studied Paul's words. Those words taught me to put away division and have one mind which is Christ alone.

For someone who doesn't know anything about Catholicism, you sure criticize it a lot...We know that Christ alone = Catholicism.

This division over politics, denomination and even science, this is not one mind bro.

I'm not divided, even though I identify with one side of those dichotomies.

You have peace because you're ignorant of sound doctrine.

See, unlike you, I have studied Catholicism and other brands of Christianity. I chose Catholicism over any Protestant sect because Catholicism is fuller than those others.

I almost envy you, because you sit in ease, while you put stumbling blocks in the way of others, and you dont even know it. However, i would rather see the truth, and bear a cross, than to not bear and be blind.

In what way do I put stumbling blocks in the way of others? You have no idea what cross(es) I bear...

 

[Root of Jesse]

They are opposites, whenever it divide Christians over its theories. You see, its about having one mind, and this is very important. Anything that divides us is not according to sound doctrine.

"It" does not divide Christians. Christians do that themselves. Science and religion go at the same thing different ways, and they cooperate with each other. Religion focuses on how to go to heaven, science focuses on how the heavens go.

 

[Hieronymus]

"It" does not divide Christians. Christians do that themselves.

No, Christians did not invite naturalistic thinking in their minds, it is put there by "the world".
Fervently.

 

[Extraneous]

Different kind of peace, built on ignorance of what real peace is.

Im not so sure

 

[Extraneous]

"It" does not divide Christians. Christians do that themselves. Science and religion go at the same thing different ways, and they cooperate with each other. Religion focuses on how to go to heaven, science focuses on how the heavens go.

Yes, and the whole world is deceived without Christ, and they will follow delusions and false doctrines (even in science). What part of that cant you seem to understand? Do you not see the folly in it?

 

[Luke17:37]

The Bible authors weren't scientist or historians, they were holy men, shamans. Floods don't break up continents, plate tectonics is what leads to the movement of continents. In fact the lad masses have floated apart and come back together before.

Fossils have been rapidly deposited over millions of years through millions of floods.

Genesis 7:11
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.

There is a theory that the plate tectonics was part of the global flood. Here's an article: https://answersingenesis.org/geolog...rophic-plate-tectonics-explain-flood-geology/

Here's a technical paper: http://www.icr.org/article/catastrophic-plate-tectonics-flood-model/

You assume that the Bible was written by the will of men and that it's therefore fallible, but you elevate the opinions of fallible men today and assume they are trustworthy. The Bible is inerrant, therefore that speaks to the divine author and authenticates its claims to be the divinely inspired word of the LORD. Besides all the prophecy fulfilled (for example, in Jesus, and yes the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures were translated to Greek before Jesus arrived on earth and the Dead Sea Scrolls show we have the same Scriptures today therefore the prophecies weren't added retroactively to fit Jesus' life), no one has been able to prove the Bible wrong on science and history, either.

You aren't millions of years old, therefore, you weren't there.

Further, you can't explain how this incredibly complex creation truly formed.

Here's a short video of Dr. Ben Carson explaining what happens scientifically when we hear a question and acknowledge it by raising a hand.

I'm going to go with God.

 

[Colter]

You sound like an atheist. They say the same thing. Its not evidence anyway, its just a flawed theory. Its a false doctrine, created in the minds of spiritually blind scientists who created a doctrine of their own, in order to tickle their itching ears. THis is a great delusion that mankind reaps.

The only thing that old earth evolution debunks is the YEC theory of the Hebrews.

 

[Colter]

Genesis 7:11
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.

There is a theory that the plate tectonics was part of the global flood. Here's an article: https://answersingenesis.org/geolog...rophic-plate-tectonics-explain-flood-geology/

Here's a technical paper: http://www.icr.org/article/catastrophic-plate-tectonics-flood-model/

You assume that the Bible was written by the will of men and that it's therefore fallible, but you elevate the opinions of fallible men today and assume they are trustworthy. The Bible is inerrant, therefore that speaks to the divine author and authenticates its claims to be the divinely inspired word of the LORD. Besides all the prophecy fulfilled (for example, in Jesus, and yes the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures were translated to Greek before Jesus arrived on earth and the Dead Sea Scrolls show we have the same Scriptures today therefore the prophecies weren't added retroactively to fit Jesus' life), no one has been able to prove the Bible wrong on science and history, either.

You aren't millions of years old, therefore, you weren't there.

Further, you can't explain how this incredibly complex creation truly formed.

Here's a short video of Dr. Ben Carson explaining what happens scientifically when we hear a question and acknowledge it by raising a hand.

I'm going to go with God.

THE AIG people are clowns! We know how plate tectonics works today.

God created life using evolution, that's how it was formed.

Bible worshipers bend and twist reality to fit the limitations of the Hebrew priest. Its like trying to fit modern medicine into blood letting of the past.

 

[Colter]

Man, you cant be more blinded. Have you never read Revelation? How about John 14?

Yes I read revelation, it was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. It bears no resemblance to the Son of God.
To the extent that Jesus was accurately quoted then the red letters are wonderful, but that doesn't convert the writings of men into the writings of God.

Jesus was quoted but left no writings of his own.

The current commonly accepted cannon is 66 books. There were other books that used to be considered inspired but the church un-inspired them and banned them.

 

[Colter]

But you have no evidence to link to or mention.

There is tons of evidence but you are in denial.

 

[Extraneous]

Yes I read revelation, it was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. It bears no resemblance to the Son of God.
To the extent that Jesus was accurately quoted then the red letters are wonderful, but that doesn't convert the writings of men into the writings of God.

Jesus was quoted but left no writings of his own.

The current commonly accepted cannon is 66 books. There were other books that used to be considered inspired but the church un-inspired them and banned them.

So you reject revelation but not ToE?

 

[Extraneous]

The only thing that old earth evolution debunks is the YEC theory of the Hebrews.

It doesnt debunk anything, but is used in a fallacious way by ToE proponents to propagate a flawed theory. Also, if it undermines the scriptures in the OT it undermines it all, which would explain why you reject the book of Revelation. Are you sure you're not really an atheist?

 

[Colter]

So you reject revelation but not ToE?

I don't reject revelation, I just don't think it survived intact.

Life is a fact, you say it happened all at once, I believe it evolved over time after being put on the earth by celestial beings under the authority of Christ Michael.

 

[KWCrazy]

Hmmmm. How can we judge the premises? I suggest we use evidence.
Evidence supports evolution.

I would think a Baptist would have a lot more evidence of God than of evolution. We don't go to evolution's house on Sunday. We don't ask evolution to bless our food. We don't pray to evolution before going to bed.

 

[ScottA]

Never, the Bible was written by men who didn't even claim to be writing by inspiration. I would only be making, as ou say, a liar, out of the control freaks in religion that promote their writings as Gods. The people who killed Jesus knew the truth but they were moral cowards.

It was done to you and so you do it to others.

It is easy to slay the messenger or kill the prophets (as it were), which history has clearly identified as not being against foolish men, but against God. The error of such, that you are also making...is that you have not accounted for the providence of God over the acts of sinful men, who could do nothing without Him. Nor is history controlled by men, but by the will of God, and in spite of sinful men, His word shall not return void.

 

[Colter]

It doesnt debunk anything, but is used in a fallacious way by ToE proponents to propagate a flawed theory. Also, if it undermines the scriptures in the OT it undermines it all, which would explain why you reject the book of Revelation. Are you sure you're not really an atheist?

My relationship with God is the most important thing in my life.

The discovery of evolution doesn't undermine God, it undermines the speculation of men who wrote about God in the past as well as the theory of the inerrancy of scripture.

 

[Colter]

It is easy to slay the messenger or kill the prophets (as it were), which history has clearly identified as not being against foolish men, but against God. The error of such, that you are also making...is that you have not accounted for the providence of God over the acts of sinful men, who could do nothing without Him. Nor is history controlled by men, but by the will of God, and in spite of sinful men, His word shall not return void.

You are putting thoughts in my head.

BTW, the Bible books were written by the same kind of men who had rejected and killed the prophets.

Bible worshipers talk constantly about how horrible all men are....except the men who wrote the Bible, you give them a pass. Why is that????????

 

[Colter]

In 1632 the Roman Catholic church banished Galileo for suggesting that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

 

[ScottA]

You are putting thoughts in my head.

BTW, the Bible books were written by the same kind of men who had rejected and killed the prophets.

Bible worshipers talk constantly about how horrible all men are....except the men who wrote the Bible, you give them a pass. Why is that????????

My point...is that it is not I (or any man) who gives them a pass...but it is God - because they do not have power over His word - only He does. There are not random acts regarding the word of God.

So, yes, if we then give reverence to those words that have been allowed by God to survive the history and evils of men...by all means - we should consider them holy.