Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[Extraneous]

Others like Oriental Orthodox. I always thought that Anglicans were counted with Protestants, but I could be wrong on that.

Who knows. Im not into denominations anyway.

 

[Archivist]

You asked which of the two accounts was true. That indicates that you thought one was not true.

I don't recall asking that. In one post I did ask which was correct, but I didn't say which is true because I don't believe either is true. They are, in my opinion, allegories. If I used the term true please show me exactly where, becasue it was used in error.

 

[KWCrazy]

Well, this Christian believes in evolution but will certainly not be going to the grave without hope.

In the space provided, please list all the passages in the Bible that agree with evolution. _ Write legibly.

 

[Extraneous]

I don't recall asking that. In one post I did ask which was correct, but I didn't say which is true because I don't believe either is true. They are, in my opinion, allegories. If I used the term true please show me exactly where, becasue it was used in error.

I dont know, just forget it, it doesnt matter.

 

[KWCrazy]

Then please expalin the difference in the order.

There is no difference in the order.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Thats not accurate. There are 800 million Protestants and 1.2 Billion Catholics. That doesn't count Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans and others. Protestants are not far behind Catholics in numbers. Add others to Protestants and you might even be outnumbered

I still see a 400 million discrepancy, even with double-counts...Anglicans are Protestant...FYI. Now back to the topic?

 

[Archivist]

There is no difference in the order.

Yes there is. Chapter 1 animals then man, chapter 2 Adam then animals then Eve.

 

[Archivist]

In the space provided, please list all the passages in the Bible that agree with evolution. _ Write legibly.

Are you saying that one cannot be a Christian and believe in evolution?

 

[Extraneous]

I still see a 400 million discrepancy, even with double-counts...Anglicans are Protestant...FYI. Now back to the topic?

OK add Anglicans and that's another 85 million on our side, not counting others not mentioned. Yes lets get back on topic, your errors are off topic.

 

[KWCrazy]

Yet chapter 1 said that animals were created before man, chapter 2 say animals were created after amn.

Not true.
Remember, chapter two starts with the statement that the creation was complete.
It was intended for Eve to be Adam's helper from the beginning. The animals were brought to Adam to name, but none of them were suitable. So God fashioned Eve from Adam's rib and created for him the helper that He had intended from the beginning. Chapter two references many of the events which were described in chapter one, such as that the animals had been formed already but that Eve had not. There is no mention of how much time elapsed between the creation of Adam and the creation of Eve.

 

[KWCrazy]

Are you saying that one cannot be a Christian and believe in evolution?

I'm asking for you to present Scriptural support for your position.
I can readily point to the many references to Adam being formed from the dust of the earth.
Can you mention as many that say he evolved from simpler life forms over millions of years? If those verses exist, I've never seen them. Perhaps you have.

 

[KWCrazy]

Yes there is. Chapter 1 animals then man, chapter 2 Adam then animals then Eve.

Chapter 2 does not contradict anything in chapter 1. It gives greater detail into why man was created, but the only creation in chapter 2 was Eve.

 

[Root of Jesse]

OK add Anglicans and that's another 85 million on our side, not counting others not mentioned. Yes lets get back on topic, your errors are off topic.

No error here...most Christians are Catholic. 400 million Protestants includes Anglicans! And possibly Orthodox...not sure about Orthodox, though.

 

[Extraneous]

No error here...most Christians are Catholic. 400 million Protestants includes Anglicans! And possibly Orthodox...not sure about Orthodox, though.

That's 800 million, plus Anglicans and others. Its probably over a billion.

 

[Root of Jesse]

That's 800 million, plus Anglicans and others. Its probably over a billion.

Probably nothing. Anglicans are Protestants, by the same Pew Survey:

 

[paul becke]

I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?

Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?

What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.

So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.

So i dont see the problem with evolution, because it doesnt undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?

Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.

But i am curious to what you think?

Just one link should suffice to explain :

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/10/introducing_the_1099951.html

It is not a religious issue. It is the 'science' of putative Evolution that is utterly, utterly flawed and inadequate. Indeed, it is arguable, that if ever God had needed our admiration, had Evolution been true, it would have appeared to redound all the more to God's credit. 'Appear' being the operative word, mind you. God needs our praise and admiration like a fish needs a bicycle.

In Christian scripture, notably the Psalms, the praise of God is a very common theme, but rather than seeing it as a fawning sychophancy towards a narcissistic God, it should be viewed as the way in which we may best express our love for God ; and since we shall, d.v., eventually be fully incorporated into the living God, himself, in the Mystical Body of Christ, the True Vine, what goes round will come round in a very nice way. One great love-in/love fest !

 

[Extraneous]

Probably nothing. Anglicans are Protestants, by the same Pew Survey:

Either way, your original assertion was in error.

Here are the numbers:

The Catholic Church has 1.1 billion adherents worldwide, representing half of the global Christian population.

The world’s 801 million Protestants, as broadly defined in this report (see Defining Christian Traditions), make up 37% of the global Christian population.

There are about 260 million Orthodox Christians, making up 12% of the global Christian population.

There are about 28 million Christians in the world who do not belong to the three largest Christian traditions. Those belonging to other Christian groups make up slightly more than 1% of the global Christian population.

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-traditions/

 

[paul becke]

I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?

Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?

What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.

So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.

So I don't see the problem with evolution, because it does not undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?

Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.

But i am curious to what you think?

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Your theory concerning our putative fear of science undermining the creation story is unfounded. As I pointed out earlier, the science is simply not there - even historical science. Here is what Arno Penzias, co-discoverer of the background radiation from the Big Bang (itself originally postulated by Georges Lemaitre, a Belgian Catholic priest) :

'The best data we have [concerning the Big Bang] are exactly what I would have predicted, had I nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the bible as a whole.' - Arno Penzias

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/06/would_dr_arno_penzias_nobel_la003733.html

Also, worth noting at the link, below, is the fact that the most prestigious scientific journal, Nature, found in a survey that 40 % of physicists, biologists and mathematicians believe in God - not an impersonal god, but a personal God who listens to the prayers of each one of us, and so on.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/quotes.html

 

[Root of Jesse]

Who knows. Im not into denominations anyway.

If your not Catholic, then, you're a denomination unto yourself. And Protestant.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Either way, your original assertion was in error.

Here are the numbers:

The Catholic Church has 1.1 billion adherents worldwide, representing half of the global Christian population.

The world’s 801 million Protestants, as broadly defined in this report (see Defining Christian Traditions), make up 37% of the global Christian population.

There are about 260 million Orthodox Christians, making up 12% of the global Christian population.

There are about 28 million Christians in the world who do not belong to the three largest Christian traditions. Those belonging to other Christian groups make up slightly more than 1% of the global Christian population.

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-traditions/

It's actually about 1.27 Billion Catholics. Even so, we are most Christians, unless you lump everyone else together. So then, Catholics vs youse guys maybe you're right, but we're still 50%. That's what half is, after all.