Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[EastCoastRemnant]

The earth and universe have been well dated by science as being unbelievably old. No question about it. Science is not equipped to deal with questions of God. Science is neutral on this question. So the date of the earth and universe have got nothing to do with whether there is or isn't a God.

Hog, check your computer settings, seriously, your reply button is defaulted to "rhetoric".

 

[Hoghead1]

I know you keep blowing but haven't produce one piece of observable evidence since you started. It's like your computer is stuck on rhetorical reply...

Well then, that makes two of us. If you would open you eyes and read my posts, you'd find I've given you plenty of evidence. Thing is, you have absolutely no faith in science, so everything I tell you goes in one ear and out the other, on your end of it. Also, if you don't believe me, then take some initiative, shake a leg and go look for yourself. Read a book on modern astronomy.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Do you think you might get around to telling me when the image of god was placed on man? Thanx...

We don't know. Much older then 6,000 yrs though. I think it is important to known that Man was created in the image of God but still fell.....how long ago this exactly happened doesn't matter.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

And why not? Jesuit priests are very fine Christians.

The Jesuits were formed to counter the reformation of the protesters in the 16th century.. they swore an oath to do whatever was necessary to regain Papal supremacy. There actions and reputations through history do not show Christian fruit... but that's a whole other thread.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

We don't know. Much older then 6,000 yrs though. I think it is important to known that Man was created in the image of God but still fell.....how long ago this exactly happened doesn't matter.

Was he a man at that point? Did God chose the mutation that best suited His fancy to impress this image on?

 

[Hoghead1]

Then why should I believe any of it Hog? I mean if one part can be reinterpreted from what it plainly says and what has been the understanding of for centuries, why can't it all be blown up and disregarded??

You don't seem to understand. The Bible is not in question here, one's interpretation is. The fact that people may have trouble interpreting the Bible or that a passage may be given more than one interpretation does not mean it is worthless. It simply points to the fact it can be difficult to follow at times, period, end of it, nothing more.

 

[Faith77]

Because blind people can not see.

Why jump to conclusions? Are there no alternatives? Like maybe people have sound reasons for reading it a different way? Hint, next time you see something in one way, and someone else sees it differently, try to find out why. Them being blind may be just one explanation, and unless you have sound evidence for their blindness, perhaps discard that as a first alternative (unless you are not interested in finding out.)
This author is not blind: Young earth creationism: A literal mistake http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2003/PSCF12-03Fischer.pdf

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

You don't seem to understand. The Bible is not in question here, one's interpretation is. The fact that people may have trouble interpreting the Bible or that a passage may be given more than one interpretation does not mean it is worthless. It simply points to the fact it can be difficult to follow at times, period, end of it, nothing more.

Seems worthless to me the way that you understand it.... if truth is not absolute, then my truth is acceptable to God and your opposing truth is equally acceptable.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Yes it does, because you contradict and thus dismiss the Bible.

Correction....I'm not dismissing the book of genesis, I'm just viewing the book as never putting a strong focus on teaching historically accuracy unlike a modern history book. When talking about the past, people has less of a focus then people of today on the topic of historical accuracy.

 

[Hoghead1]

The Jesuits were formed to counter the reformation of the protesters in the 16th century.. they swore an oath to do whatever was necessary to regain Papal supremacy. There actions and reputations through history do not show Christian fruit... but that's a whole other thread.

Look,, this kind of polemic and disrespect is totally uncalled for and inappropriate in a serious theological discussion. If you want to throw rocks through some church's window and denounce fellow Christians, do that on your own time, not in here. If you want to start a war with Catholics, please go elsewhere. Apparently you have absolutely no resect at all for Catholicism. That's sad and expresses the kind of intolerance modern Christian theologians, Catholic and Protestant, are trying to overcome.

 

[Hieronymus]

Correction....I'm not dismissing the book of genesis,

How can you say that?
Doesn't make sense...

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Was he a man at that point? Did God chose the mutation that best suited His fancy to impress this image on?

If it happened before modern humans came about, while he wouldn't be a modern homosapian biologically speaking, he would still be a person in Gods eyes if he has his image/soul.

 

[Hieronymus]

Why jump to conclusions?

Why do YOU jump to the conclusion that i jump to a conclusion?

 

[Hoghead1]

Why do you keep making the same statement and thinking that by saying enough times, someone will believe you. Again, I ask (but will not get) for these tons of facts you tout... please crush me with the weight of your evidence showing observable evolution in practice.

I've already done that and you paid no attention, so I am not going top get into this with you again. If you have questions or problems with evolution, you should take a class on the subject, learn what science has to day, examine the evidence for yourself.

 

[Hoghead1]

The question required a yes or no answer... not more rhetoric

Her statements are nothing but inflammatory rhetoric and do not require an answer on my part. I feel no need to have to justify myself to any anti-intellectual.

 

[Hieronymus]

I've already done that and you paid no attention, so I am not going top get into this with you again. If you have questions or problems with evolution, you should take a class on the subject, learn what science has to day, examine the evidence for yourself.

Maybe you should take a look yourself, so you might see there is no evidence to support evolution (as in the origin of species and DNA writing itself)

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Question for the evolutionists.... what happens to God's image when time and chance dictate that we evolve again into something previously not known. Has anyone ever thought about the continuation of evolution and what that means for our relating to God through the Bible? Or is man the perfect mutation?

There's no need to wait for the future to contemplate strange scenarios. We have challenges to consider right now. What happens to God's image when the person is born with diminished intelligence? What happens to God's image when the fertilized egg spontaneously aborts without human intervention? What happens to God's image when the fertilized egg starts to grow but only goes part way, and winds up imbedded in a "twin" that grows more normally, becoming what they call a "teratomma"? What happens to God's image when a baby is tragically born without a cerebral cortex? These things happen, you know.

I'm not saying I know the answer. I'm saying we don't have to wait for some obscure future evolutionary development to start having such problems.

 

[Hoghead1]

Read Genesis. 'nuff said.You just assume that.

The many biblical contradictions are well documented, Hier. Genesis, for example, consists of two conflicting creation accounts from two different authors from two different time periods. If you want, I can go more into detail here.

 

[Hieronymus]

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[Paul of Eugene OR]

Big difference between arguing heliocentric vs. geocentric perspective and demoting God to a less spectacular and secondary role in creation... evolution, whether pronounced by a Christian or an atheist, demotes God... not exalts Him. It promotes theism...

God is not diminished when one realizes God designed a universe that contains evolution so that we would come along.