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Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?
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God I have no issue with. It is you who is interpretting His word in such a way to imply that evolutionists do not serve Him.
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Or maybe, just maybe, you've realised the foolishness of suggesting that people who believe evolution are the people spoke of in Romans Chapter 16, that a hyperliteral reading of the word YOM produces contradictions concerning the day of Adam's "death", and that you haven't adequately defined death in order for evolution to contradict that definition.
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I never said they did not serve God. i said what is wrong with evolution this and quoted. The rest is subjective.
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Oh i see now you want me to comment on the passage because Just posting it says what Gods says about it.
17 And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset peoples faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them. 18 Such people are not serving Christ our Lord; they are serving their own personal interests. By smooth talk and glowing words they deceive innocent people. 19 But everyone knows that you are obedient to the Lord. This makes me very happy. I want you to be wise in doing right and to stay innocent of any wrong. 20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. May the grace of our Lord Jesus[g] be with you.
He says teaching contrary to what you have been taught, yes evolution is contrary.
But don't put words in my mouth saying i said you did not serve the lord. i quoted the word of God and now you must feel something about that, maybe you should explore that.
But if your going to tell me what i feel and think then you must be God because only he can do that. certainly you are no god.
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oh wait a min first you said it was speaking of the doctrine of Gnosticism are you now changing your story?
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"Just posting a verse" proves nothing - Scripture must be interpreted. The word "evolution" is no where to be seen. The context is not about theories of creation nor about science. The original context appears to be about judging one another about the celebration of the sabbath, or feast days, or the eating of meat. Nothing to do with how God created.
Do you see that the verses quoted are about PEOPLE, not teachings?
17 And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people’s faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them. 18 Such people are not serving Christ our Lord; they are serving their own personal interests. By smooth talk and glowing words they deceive innocent people. 19 But everyone knows that you are obedient to the Lord. This makes me very happy. I want you to be wise in doing right and to stay innocent of any wrong. 20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. May the grace of our Lord Jesus[g] be with you.
These people are put in contrast with the body of the church - those people who are obedient to the Lord.
This is the interpretation of the scripture - it is about teachers of falsehood who are not i the body, not serving God.
Do you see that the verses quoted are about PEOPLE, not teachings?
17 And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people’s faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them. 18 Such people are not serving Christ our Lord; they are serving their own personal interests. By smooth talk and glowing words they deceive innocent people. 19 But everyone knows that you are obedient to the Lord. This makes me very happy. I want you to be wise in doing right and to stay innocent of any wrong. 20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. May the grace of our Lord Jesus[g] be with you.
These people are put in contrast with the body of the church - those people who are obedient to the Lord.
This is the interpretation of the scripture - it is about teachers of falsehood who are not i the body, not serving God.
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Gnosticism fits better as part of what is "contrary to what you first received" than evolution does. But the verses are speaking against the teachers of falsehood rather than the falsehood itself.
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Your issue is with God if your issue is with me. If God is for me and I am preaching His word than who else would it be with.
But you don't like it when I just quote the Bible, because if you attack Gods word others would have something to say and then you would be attacking God, so You try to get me to comment give you something to attack that is not God. Hoping I mess up or make a mistake and step out of His light. Am I getting close is that what you are doing?
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Tell me again how you are a poor victim that gets attacked... I think I missed it the first time.
I disagree with your interpretation of God's Word.
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No - the verses are about PEOPLE - people who teach contrary to what you've been taught.
The cautions are about these people, not the teachings. The commentary is about the heart of these people, not about the heart of the teaching. The entire set of verses is about "avoid such PEOPLE" and contrasting those people against the people obedient to God.
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The word satanism is not in there either but i am pretty sure it speaks of that as a false doctrine.or "contrary to what Paul taught"
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After all this agression and suggestion that I am against God if I am against you (ha!) I STILL don't have a clear definition of death that occurred the day of the fall.
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It is about both your first response was it was preaching about Gnosticism a false doctrine.
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but to answer your question about death was not in the world before Adam sinned I post this a second time which clearly says death enter the world through Adam.
Rom 5:12
2 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned. 13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break. 14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come. 15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ. 16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins. 17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:12
2 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned. 13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break. 14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come. 15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ. 16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins. 17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
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I don't know what aggression you speak of I'm at perfect peace, how bout you? Oh and if your aginst one of Gods children then are you not against God. The God I know says you are. Jesus said what you do to the least of my brothers you do it to me.
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Of course I am at peace. I follow and serve the Prince of Peace. I can live my life by faith with absolute confidence - no cognitive dissonance, nothing to object to from modern science or textual criticism.
Despite you thinking "Your issue is with God if your issue is with me. If God is for me and I am preaching His word than who else would it be with." I do not believe that God is against me even though I disagree with yourself.
I have peace, I have faith, and I have Jesus
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