Why did the snake entice Eve first but not Adam?

[Grandpa2390]

I don't think that God, who is love, created man and woman to be in conflict. He created us to be compatible with one another. But in this world, where good and evil coexist, and especially in the end times, conflict is a consequence. Current state of affairs between men and women around the world has a lot to do with the point in time we are at.

God didn't create men and women to be in conflict. But when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, it was one of the curses.

It has nothing to do with the age. the feminist movement didn't start in the last one hundred years. there have been feminist movements all throughout history. There was one going on around Corinth. Paul addressed the issue in the New Testament because even then it was an issue.

Just general conflict between husband and wife has been going on through history. Paul addressed it as well. the whole divorce topic as well is evidence of that.

I don't understand why it is hard to believe that the conflicts between men and women are due to the fall of man? If it isn't due to creation (hint: it isn't), and if it isn't due to the fall, then where did it come from?

 

[PanDeVida]

Why did the snake (Satan?) persuade Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, but not to talk to Adam first?
Could he talk to Adam first but Adam had rejected him, and so he came to entice Eve?

Hi, Evil/sin came in though a woman/Eve, Just as Salvation/Jesus came through a Woman/Mary.

As Eve said Yes to the fallen angel satan, therefore we all die. Mary says YES to the angel Gabriel, therefore many shall live.

Adam is a typology of Jesus Christ, as Eve is a typology of Mary. It is no coinicidence but a God-incidence, that through a woman we all die and through a Woman we all LIVE! Many Christians are upset with Eve, i'm sure you have said: 'why did Eve, eat that forbidden fruit', I'm sure you have, thus why you posted this thread. However, it is SAD that many Christians specially since the protestant reformation, don't come to Thank Mary, for saying YES, to have the FRUIT of Life, that will lead us to life, by Her YES!

If God replaced the Old Adam with the New Adam/Jesus Christ and the Old Eve with the New Eve/Mary, then don't you believe that She should be worthy of your praise, for saying YES?

Don't be afraid to call Mary Blessed on a daily bases, Remember the Fiat: "...ALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL ME BLESSED..."

I understand that many, even if you are a Good Christian do not have this GRACE Form God, to understand the role that Mary has in our Lives. Pray for this gift of Grace! Say Yes!

 

[Meowzltov]

I dunno. Maybe women are more easily persuaded by reasoned arguments, and men are more easily persuaded by sex????

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Why did the snake (Satan?) persuade Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, but not to talk to Adam first?
Could he talk to Adam first but Adam had rejected him, and so he came to entice Eve?

It is not recorded as Adam was first tested by Satan and then went to Eve so we must go simply by what is written.
My guess might be that, as the N.T. records, Eve was weaker and more easily beguiled...Satan must have known this to be the case. From the beginning of their creation, the woman was a helpmate to Adam and under Adam...that leaves room for more weakness than Adam at least.
Adam bore the sin of the woman, Eve, because he was over her or she was under his authority. So when the N.T. mentions sin coming into the world through Adam this is the logic.

 

[Saint Nod]

It does pose an interesting question... I wonder if all along satan was actually trying to tempt Adam but did so through Eve... after all, Eve was formed from Adam as the story goes, and when formed we have that verse in Genesis 2 where it says, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." At least by getting at Eve, as it is implied, the weaker of the two since Adam did not initially fall to the temptation, satan was able in effect bring them both down since they were 'one flesh.' It also begs the question: "if the original woman is the weaker one... is that the case today?" .... not if you consider all the spiritual female giants over the centuries? ( Amy Carmichael, Isobel Kuhn, Suzanne Wesley, Catherine Booth to name a few)... I think I may have opened up the 'can' too far!

 

[Galatea]

Interesting thought.

I always just considered it a peer pressure thing. And since everything that had happened up to that point for Adam and Eve had been good, consequence free and without pressure, I don't think either of them realized the actual significance and regret they were causing with their actions. Kids don't come out knowing intuitively to listen to their parents, but they learn to through consequence. Since they had never seen "bad", they probably couldn't seriously imagine it when weighing against their temptation.

I disagree, here. God told Adam that if they ate of the tree, they would die. So Adam was fully aware of the consequences.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Why did the snake (Satan?) persuade Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, but not to talk to Adam first?
Could he talk to Adam first but Adam had rejected him, and so he came to entice Eve?

Whatever the reason was, now it doesn't matter the least bit. It happened, and both man and woman fell, no matter in which chronological order.

What is important now, as the Bible says, that due to Eve falling first, she bares a higher responsibility for the humanity's fall. Therefore, the Bible says she must be secondary and obedient to men and to save herself through child-birthing.

 

[Galatea]

This is going to be a shock, coming from a woman, but I think women are naturally more easily mislead in spiritual matters.
II Timothy 3:6 "For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

The verse is referring to the apostasy and people preaching falsehoods. The false preachers lead captive silly women.

I think men are supposed to be protectors, protecting women physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Adam fell down on the job, but I agree with the other posters in that because he loved her so much, he willingly sinned.

But this is speculation, of course. Since Eve was newer on the scene, she was not as spiritually mature as Adam, so an easier mark.

All will be made clear when we get to Heaven, I'm sure.

One thing I am convinced of, is this: Any two other people would have done the very same thing.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Some said actually the Satan became human form and had sex with Eve to impart sin into her nature.
Later on Eve had had sex with Adam and so the whole human race was corrupted by sin.

Is this a wrong interpretation?

 

[HenryM]

This is going to be a shock, coming from a woman, but I think women are naturally more easily mislead in spiritual matters.
II Timothy 3:6 "For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

The verse is referring to the apostasy and people preaching falsehoods. The false preachers lead captive silly women.

I think men are supposed to be protectors, protecting women physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Adam fell down on the job, but I agree with the other posters in that because he loved her so much, he willingly sinned.

But this is speculation, of course. Since Eve was newer on the scene, she was not as spiritually mature as Adam, so an easier mark.

All will be made clear when we get to Heaven, I'm sure.

One thing I am convinced of, is this: Any two other people would have done the very same thing.

There was a thread couple of months ago, and one theme was brought up that I found interesting. There are clues in the Bible, I'd have to look up to find them, that show how it seems God created man and women not only different in physical or mental ways, but in soul too. Specifically, that while man and woman are on Earth, woman is slightly (to repeat - slightly) calibrated more for this world, while man is slightly (again, slightly) calibrated more for the next. So we end up compatible to each other in that sense too. In simplest terms, man needs woman to easier go through this world, and woman needs man to easier get ready for the next.

 

[miknik5]

Some said actually the Satan became human form and had sex with Eve to impart sin into her nature.
Later on Eve had had sex with Adam and so the whole human race was corrupted by sin.

Is this a wrong interpretation?

Yes. A very wrong interpretation

 

[miknik5]

There was a thread couple of months ago, and one theme was brought up that I found interesting. There are clues in the Bible, I'd have to look up to find them, that show how it seems God created man and women not only different in physical or mental ways, but in soul too. Specifically, that while man and woman are on Earth, woman is slightly (to repeat - slightly) calibrated more for this world, while man is slightly (again, slightly) calibrated more for the next. So we end up compatible to each other in that sense too. In simplest terms, man needs woman to easier go through this world, and woman needs man to easier get ready for the next.

I don't think I agree

Both need each other in this world and (should) balance one another

The woman is considered the softer more emotional creature. She needs the man to protect and strengthen her

The man is the stronger and more powerful creature. He needs the woman to soften him

Apart from each other, the two (with these temperaments) could actually be a danger to themselves and to one another

But together, they should complete one another

What happened to the first man and woman was that they were deceived. They were innocent. They had only each other. No outside interference, influence and intrusio, they knew nothing but good

But when Satan spoke and offered a suggestion, Eve listened. Not because she initially knew sin, but because she initially didn't

And sin entered into the world
And their childlike innocence was lost

 

[miknik5]

One thing I am convinced of, is this: Any two other people would have done the very same thing.

GOD said IN THE DAY you eat of it

Showing that GOD knew "any two other people would have done the same"

 

[HenryM]

I don't think I agree

Both need each other in this world and (should) balance one another

The woman is considered the softer more emotional creature. She needs the man to protect and strengthen her

The man is the stronger and more powerful creature. He needs the woman to soften him

Apart from each other, the two (with these temperaments) could actually be a danger to themselves and to one another

But together, they should complete one another

What happened to the first man and woman was that they were deceived. They were innocent. They had only each other. No outside interference, influence and intrusio, they knew nothing but good

But when Satan spoke and offered a suggestion, Eve listened. Not because she initially knew son, but because she initially didn't

And sin entered into the world
And their childlike innocence was lost

That's what I was saying. Both need each other in this world. I'm proposing that God made us balance each other as souls too.

 

[miknik5]

That's what I was saying. Both need each other in this world. I'm proposing that God made us balance each other as souls too.

Oh i thought you suggested men were more equipped for heaven than woman and woman were more equipped for earth
Because of something different in their souls

I don't agree with that

 

[Galatea]

GOD said IN THE DAY you eat of it

Showing that GOD knew "any two other people would have done the same"

I don't quite understand your post.

 

[miknik5]

I don't quite understand your post.

Read GOD's command to Adam and Eve (the first man and woman)

HIS command said
Do not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

For

IN THE DAY you eat of it

You said "any two other people would have eaten it"

I believe you are right because GOD already foreknew that there would be THAT DAY when we would eat of it

HIS command didn't say maybe, possibly, if you eat of it

HIS command said IN THE DAY showing that GOD foreknew that we would. And still, from the abundance of HIS GRACE from the very beginning, created us

Even knowing this

Because HE more importantly knew the victory in HIS SON

 

[Galatea]

Read GOD's command to Adam and Eve (the first man and woman)

HIS command said
Do not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

For

IN THE DAY you eat of it

You said "any two other people would have eaten it"

I believe you are right because GOD already foreknew that there would be THAT DAY when we would eat of it

HIS command didn't say maybe, possibly, if you eat of it

HIS command said IN THE DAY showing that GOD foreknew that we would. And still, from the abundance of HIS GRACE from the very beginning, created us

Even knowing this

Because HE more importantly knew the victory in HIS SON

Yes, I agree. He knew they would. He is omniscient.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Some said actually the Satan became human form and had sex with Eve to impart sin into her nature.
Later on Eve had had sex with Adam and so the whole human race was corrupted by sin.

Is this a wrong interpretation?

Yes, that is dead wrong...the Bible is inspired, so is Genesis as a book of that Bible. Furthermore, we see the handling of these details in the N.T. just as was divinely inspired in Genesis.

 

[Galatea]

Some said actually the Satan became human form and had sex with Eve to impart sin into her nature.
Later on Eve had had sex with Adam and so the whole human race was corrupted by sin.

Is this a wrong interpretation?

It is my understanding that Satan ABSOLUTELY and TOTALLY despises humans. We disgust him in our weakness. I don't think he would demean himself to do such a thing. Demons can inhabit unbelievers, but Satan himself? It would be more than he could possibly bear to inhabit a human form.

Satan is opposite of God- I don't think Satan would ever take on human form. He is too proud.

This is my understanding of the nature of Satan deducted from the Bible. Even antiChrist is a man and not Satan himself, why? I think because Satan would not ever willingly put aside his power in order to demean himself to become a weak human.

Satan was originally an angel, and angels are not interested in sex, so this seems a strange notion that you have.