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Why Christians do eat pork despite its...

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I think the most obvious interpretation of the bible is that pork is allowed. The rest of you can pretend all you want. Contrary to popular opinion, there are christians who know what the bible says and can interpret without attention to what non-christians think it says. The quran commands muslims not to argue with christians, and bible commands christians not to engage in vain discourse likewise. I think we should all follow our wisdom and agree to disagree. I don't see how anyone can convince a christian that Jesus forbade pork.
 
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elijah115 said:
I think the most obvious interpretation of the bible is that pork is allowed. The rest of you can pretend all you want. Contrary to popular opinion, there are christians who know what the bible says and can interpret without attention to what non-christians think it says. The quran commands muslims not to argue with christians, and bible commands christians not to engage in vain discourse likewise. I think we should all follow our wisdom and agree to disagree. I don't see how anyone can convince a christian that Jesus forbade pork.

That's because God invented pepperoni pizza, and on this rock of truth I do stand.
:D :D ;) :cool:
 
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Have a slice for me, Elijah :thumbsup:

MercuryAndy said:
well lets think about this logicaly. Pig meat is very bad for you. In the old testiment it does say eat only the animals with divided hoofs but not pig as they are unclean. Well they are unclean and you shouldnt realy eat them anyway.

Maybe, but locusts (which are kosher) are good for you :sorry: Let's have some now......;)
 
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Skillganon said:
Jesus, said he came not to change one iota of Gods commandment to the Jew's. So all christian eater of Pork are sinner's.

Excuse me but all Christians are sinners anyway. The bible says in Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" That means all of us..even you. That's why we needed Jesus and that is why he became the ultimate sacrifice so that we would be made clean in God's eyes. Even though eating pork isn't a sin......cause it's not...a sin....eating pork... ;)
 
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ok..I'll post this one last passage and then I'll shut it..lol

I read back a little further in Romans and found this passage to be very helpful. We all agree that not eating pork is part of the Mosaic law so here is why we can eat pork ;)

Romans 3:19-20

"Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law, rather, through the law we become conscious of sin."

So I guess whether or not you view the passage in Acts (cited earlier in the thread) about eating four hooved animals literally and include pigs in that group shapes your view on the sinfulness of eating pork.
 
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chokmah said:
The only reason that an Orthodox Jew would even consider eating pork is if he/she/they went to a dinner and the person cooked pork without knowing they were Jewish. It would be a worse offense to disrespect the person offering the food.

However, since we're discussing Orthodox Jews, and couple that with the fact that Orthodox Jews have a particular attire ===> evange's statement is completely erroneous.

Orthodox Jew's will eat pork just not to offend his guest!

Is that really true? :scratch:
 
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Talmidah said:
I'm sure people can theorize all they want about why we are not to eat pork, among other foods...not sure why pork is the one usually talked about. It simply comes down to the fact that G-d has prohibited it from us. Why would it be hard to believe that G-d made a distinction btwn Gentiles and Jews in terms of what they are supposed to do/prohibited from doing?

You still did not answer the question. Is there a separate judgment of Jews and Gentiles based upon what we eat or not eat? or does God judge us the same? Do you understand why God made the distinction of clean and unclean? That was what I was hoping that you could answer me from your personal understanding of the OT. I am really not a fan of theories, just so you know. I am more interested in facts and truth of things.
 
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peaceful soul said:
You still did not answer the question. Is there a separate judgment of Jews and Gentiles based upon what we eat or not eat? or does God judge us the same? Do you understand why God made the distinction of clean and unclean? That was what I was hoping that you could answer me from your personal understanding of the OT. I am really not a fan of theories, just so you know. I am more interested in facts and truth of things.

I don't know what you mean by "a separate judgment of Jews and Gentiles based upon what we eat or not eat". What kind of judgment? But anyway, for a Jew to eat pork is a sin, for a gentile to eat pork is not a sin. Maybe someone with more extensive knowledge of "facts and truth of things" can answer you more fully to your satisfaction. As I stated before, whether you're a fan of them or not, theories abound as to the "why" of kashrut. Kashrut has aided in the unity of our people; the keeping of boundaries; being set apart; alleviating problems of intermarriage, etc. Kashrut instills a discipline in our lives that spill over to all other aspects of our life; a choosing of the holy over the profane each time we're going to put something in our mouths. Not enough "fact" for you, to be sure, but that is of no concern to me, for I have no desire to debate or argue the issue. :wave:
 
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Talmidah said:
I don't know what you mean by "a separate judgment of Jews and Gentiles based upon what we eat or not eat". What kind of judgment? But anyway, for a Jew to eat pork is a sin, for a gentile to eat pork is not a sin. Maybe someone with more extensive knowledge of "facts and truth of things" can answer you more fully to your satisfaction. As I stated before, whether you're a fan of them or not, theories abound as to the "why" of kashrut. Kashrut has aided in the unity of our people; the keeping of boundaries; being set apart; alleviating problems of intermarriage, etc. Kashrut instills a discipline in our lives that spill over to all other aspects of our life; a choosing of the holy over the profane each time we're going to put something in our mouths. Not enough "fact" for you, to be sure, but that is of no concern to me, for I have no desire to debate or argue the issue. :wave:

Talmidah, Homour the command of God, and don't eat Pork! Don't go into the way of the gentile as many people do!

I know you are not a christian, but remember, Jesus (pbuh), if one consider's him a one who hold the commandment of God (i.e even a Jew) never went to the way of the Gentile's.

PLZ, don't listen to them gentile's and don't let saytan tempt you!
 
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Skillganon said:
Talmidah, Homour the command of God, and don't eat Pork! Don't go into the way of the gentile as many people do!

I know you are not a christian, but remember, Jesus (pbuh), if one consider's him a one who hold the commandment of God (i.e even a Jew) never went to the way of the Gentile's.

PLZ, don't listen to them gentile's and don't let saytan tempt you!
:D Umm Skill. You are a gentile too bro. ;)
 
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