1 corinthians 11:19 ESV
for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized
for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized
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I agree with what you said, except "If people have left the truth of the Bible, they are simply not Christian." I simply cannot dismiss the parable of "The Prodigal Son" and what Jesus explained it to mean. Neither can I forget how Peter, the Rock himself, betrayed and turned his back on Jesus three times but Jesus remained in the love relationship and did NOT turn His back on Peter. At the same time we must NEVER forget Romans 6:1. NEVER.Denominations are not what define Christianity and Christianity is not divided on foundational truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is the one who will preserve the body of Christ, not man.
If people have left the truth of the Bible, they are simply not Christian.
There is one Church and one Faith and it crosses many denominational lines.
This is a very serious question I have concerning denominations. Denominations are NOT scriptural. Schisms and differing doctrines (from the one given by the Apostles in their teachings and letters) are to be avoided. How did we get to have over 3000 denominations? How could we fix this? Do people want to fix this? Could a full on ALL Christians ecumenical council occur to join us at least almost fully together? Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
HI you are right their are higher degrees that can be reached. A master mason is one who has climbed to 33rd degree. After that there are other orders and degrees. I found many years ago some 100 year old masonic robes that included a 32nd and 33rd degree hand embroidered ones that were very creepy. One had a bull on it and was very dark in a occult sense. That next few days I studied Mansonic teaching like Albert Pike and Manly P Hall who both openly admit they serve Lucifer in their writings. I read a testimony of a 33rd degree Mason who got out and exposed many of the oaths and beliefs. These facts were consistent in many other exposes by others who have left and in Masonic books which were discovered too. So I ran into a man who had a giant gold masonic ring on right after studying this. I warned him that the Masonic stuff was dangerous and he said why. I told him as you progress they will eventually tell you Lucifer is the light bearer. This man was a very high ranking mason and he defended Lucifer as the light bearer and even cursed Jesus.Don't the free masons go higher than 33? I had an old parchment certificate with gold seals attached and multiple signatures and such for a higher level like 36 or 37, I think. It belonged to a relative from whom I inherited all of his books and papers and it was mixed in it all. The person it was awarded to was not my relative as it was a totally different name. He must have been holding it for him or such. My relative was in in a highly regarded profession.
This is a very serious question I have concerning denominations. Denominations are NOT scriptural. Schisms and differing doctrines (from the one given by the Apostles in their teachings and letters) are to be avoided. How did we get to have over 3000 denominations? How could we fix this? Do people want to fix this? Could a full on ALL Christians ecumenical council occur to join us at least almost fully together? Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
Not sure if full communion can be reached. Do you think that most would be willing to return to the Catholic Church and that the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church can return to the time of the Great Schism? Maybe we should stop judging each other and do as the scripture says.This is a very serious question I have concerning denominations. Denominations are NOT scriptural. Schisms and differing doctrines (from the one given by the Apostles in their teachings and letters) are to be avoided. How did we get to have over 3000 denominations? How could we fix this? Do people want to fix this? Could a full on ALL Christians ecumenical council occur to join us at least almost fully together? Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
This is a very serious question I have concerning denominations. Denominations are NOT scriptural. Schisms and differing doctrines (from the one given by the Apostles in their teachings and letters) are to be avoided. How did we get to have over 3000 denominations? How could we fix this? Do people want to fix this? Could a full on ALL Christians ecumenical council occur to join us at least almost fully together? Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
I know one thing, according to Jesus there will be many surprised people basing their salvation upon their good deeds and works, even casting demons out in Jesus' name, who thinking they are definitely on their way to heaven in eternity will encounter a detour with the words, "Depart from Me, I knew you Not!" with a fiery glow in the distance above the path. As far as Revelations goes, all of the cryptic decoding of the 7 churches, colors, animals, and such I'll leave that for the Lord to show me when I get there; solely based upon what He did for me leading to and upon the cross.I believe in the seven churches as congregations...
Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Beginning with DL Moody, the first to make money off of ministry
Messianic, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Catholicism, Protestantism, Methodist/Brethren/Nazarene, Pentecostal/Charismatic... Lots of denominations! Most denominational birds are well studied in their doctrines and are unwilling to budge.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. - John 10:16
I believe that there will be one fold in the afterlife. I also believe that there will be many surprised people to find a variety in heaven!
Well said Radagast. I’ve already had people in CF tell me that I cannot be saved because I was baptized as an infant and I was sprinkled not immersed. I’ve had another tell me that I cannot be saved because my church uses wine for holy communion, not grape juice. Some denominations won’t even allow those who are not part of their denomination to take communion in their church. How do we compromise and come together as one when some hold such views?Unification is easy. Let's all (except me) throw our beliefs away, and let everybody accept mine.
You don't like that? Thought not.
Even if someone claims to just being a non denominational bible believing Christian, I can tell which Tradition he or she holds to by judging by their individual beliefs. For instance, if a "Bible believing" non denominational Christian holds to a belief in free will, then I could tell that person must be Arminian.So where do your beliefs fall, traditional, new age, dispensationalism, ect. Your beliefs would probably fall into one catorgory of a denomination therefor I do not accept a person saying that they are non-denominational.
If you were to list your beliefs then I am sure that the folks reading would understand what denomination you are following wheather you belong to that denomination or not.
Even if someone claims to just being a non denominational bible believing Christian, I can tell which Tradition he or she holds to by judging by their individual beliefs. For instance, if a "Bible believing" non denominational Christian holds to a belief in free will, then I could tell that person must be Arminian.
Isn't it ironic how non denominational Protestants and the Church of Christ claim that they supposedly reject man made traditions, but yet hold to some tradition to at least some degree themselves. Even the Church of Christ, which also claims to supoosedly reject all denominational traditions and creeds, are a denomination themselves.
I believe in the seven churches as congregations...
Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Beginning with DL Moody, the first to make money off of ministry
Messianic, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Catholicism, Protestantism, Methodist/Brethren/Nazarene, Pentecostal/Charismatic... Lots of denominations! Most denominational birds are well studied in their doctrines and are unwilling to budge.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. - John 10:16
I believe that there will be one fold in the afterlife. I also believe that there will be many surprised people to find a variety in heaven!
This is a very serious question I have concerning denominations. Denominations are NOT scriptural. Schisms and differing doctrines (from the one given by the Apostles in their teachings and letters) are to be avoided. How did we get to have over 3000 denominations? How could we fix this? Do people want to fix this? Could a full on ALL Christians ecumenical council occur to join us at least almost fully together? Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
Is this idea of One Church and One Faith a pipe dream until He returns?
Even if someone claims to just being a non denominational bible believing Christian, I can tell which Tradition he or she holds to by judging by their individual beliefs. For instance, if a "Bible believing" non denominational Christian holds to a belief in free will, then I could tell that person must be Arminian.
Isn't it ironic how non denominational Protestants and the Church of Christ claim that they supposedly reject denominational man made traditions and creeds, but yet hold to some tradition to at least some degree themselves. So even the Church of Christ is a denomination themselves.
I believe in the seven churches as congregations...
Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Beginning with DL Moody, the first to make money off of ministry
Messianic, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Catholicism, Protestantism, Methodist/Brethren/Nazarene, Pentecostal/Charismatic... Lots of denominations! Most denominational birds are well studied in their doctrines and are unwilling to budge.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. - John 10:16
I believe that there will be one fold in the afterlife. I also believe that there will be many surprised people to find a variety in heaven!