Why are there so many atheists on a Christian site?

[GrimKingGrim]

Can't reset it?

I tried, I might have to contact some staff when I get home

 

[Ana the Ist]

I tried, I might have to contact some staff when I get home

Another forced conversion...

 

[GrimKingGrim]

Looks like they got me guys

 

[HammerOfThor]

Looks like they got me guys

Let's not get any conspiracy theories going here

 

[GrimKingGrim]

Too late it's atheist persecution!! My rights are being infringed!!

PANIC!

 

[talquin]

I mean, not that I want them gone, but it just seems strange to me that so many atheists would choose to spend their time and eergy on a site that is antithetical to their worldview. The interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to be here to proselytize, which would make sense to me. I assume that they, or many of them anyway, feela sense of community here if they've been here for a while. So, if not to show the poor theist the freedom of atheism, what is the draw?

I am an atheist and am here for several reasons:

1) I'm very curious how so many people could come to believe something that is absurd as believing that thousands of invisible orange fire breathing dragons are roaming the plains of western Kansas.

2) The Christian belief that a god exists seems to be a rationalization for their fear of death. I could be wrong, so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt to convince me.

3) It's possible that a god really does exist. If so, I would most definitely like to see its power in action.

4) I'm curious what kind of evidence Christians consider sufficient to believe that a god exists. See my post at http://www.christianforums.com/t7879335/

 

[Wryetui]

I am an atheist and am here for several reasons:

1) I'm very curious how so many people could come to believe something that is absurd as believing that thousands of invisible orange fire breathing dragons are roaming the plains of western Kansas.

2) The Christian belief that a god exists seems to be a rationalization for their fear of death. I could be wrong, so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt to convince me.

3) It's possible that a god really does exist. If so, I would most definitely like to see its power in action.

4) I'm curious what kind of evidence Christians consider sufficient to believe that a god exists. See my post at http://www.christianforums.com/t7879335/

Neither death, neither guilt, neither fear...

 

[Naboo]

Interesting that many people joined this site as Christians but then have changed since joining...

 

[HammerOfThor]

Interesting that many people joined this site as Christians but then have changed since joining...

Do you think it's correlated?

 

[Naboo]

Do you think it's correlated?

No idea! I'm still seeking faith myself. Maybe when people start to engaged in intelligent conversations or debates they change their ideas or views. I don't know!

 

[GrimKingGrim]

Generally the idea of rhetoric. But some of us really do do it for a laugh.

 

[Oafman]

Looks like they got me guys

Meh, you were never a True Atheist anyway, or they wouldn't have been able to convert you

 

[Eudaimonist]

I guess I'm not counted among the atheists anymore because my icon up and vanished

It's probably just the server acting up.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Ahermit]

I mean, not that I want them gone, but it just seems strange to me that so many atheists would choose to spend their time and eergy on a site that is antithetical to their worldview. The interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to be here to proselytize, which would make sense to me. I assume that they, or many of them anyway, feela sense of community here if they've been here for a while. So, if not to show the poor theist the freedom of atheism, what is the draw?

A person who does not believe in God, or gods, also resents any power greater than them self. And will go to great lengths to prove their validity, or to disprove that a higher power exists, again to validate their authority over them self. Their arguments against God/gods is the keep their fears of self (ego) invalidity at bay. Their arguments actually feed their ego, which keeps them further away from God.

Pride is their motto. The idea of living a life of humility and meekness frightens them. In truth, they are just scared of losing their false-self for their spirit-self. Unconditional love from the humble and meek is their cure - the very thing they fear.

Deep down they know the cure is here, but unable to grasp it yet.
My prayer: "May they take a risk, and exercise what little faith they have, to grasp their truth."

 

[Eudaimonist]

A person who does not believe in God, or gods, also resents any power greater than them self.

Painting with a broad brush there? No, I don't resent powers greater than myself. I don't resent government, or gravity, or the limitations set by the speed of light.

And will go to great lengths to prove their validity, or to disprove that a higher power exists, again to validate their authority over them self.

That is just armchair psychology used to poison the atheist well. It's just not true. I'm not against legitimate authority. I'm not an anarchist, for instance.

I do have a certain amount of legitimate authority over myself in the sense that I have a right to make certain decisions over my life, instead of being controlled by a totalitarian government. That doesn't mean that I don't like authority, but rather that I disapprove of authoritarianism. And it doesn't mean that I get to invent right and wrong for myself, but that I am responsible for making moral judgments as best as I can.

If I did believe that God existed and was authoritarian, I would not argue that God doesn't exist, but that God is Evil. I honestly don't believe that God exists.

Their arguments against God/gods is the keep their fears of self (ego) invalidity at bay. Their arguments actually feed their ego, which keeps them further away from God.

This is all just poisoning the well. I could say that Christians just fear death and that's the reason that they invent God, but they know "deep down" that God doesn't exist. It's all just based on their insecurities. See? It's easy to do.

Pride is their motto.

Motto?

The idea of living a life of humility and meekness frightens them.

Not at all. I believe in living in moderation, and sometimes that will require an element of humility or meekness.

In truth, they are just scared of losing their false-self for their spirit-self. Unconditional love from the humble and meek is their cure - the very thing they fear.

You can't handle the Truth!

Deep down they know the cure is here, but unable to grasp it yet.

Please get over yourself.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Archaeopteryx]

A person who does not believe in God, or gods, also resents any power greater than them self. And will go to great lengths to prove their validity, or to disprove that a higher power exists, again to validate their authority over them self. Their arguments against God/gods is the keep their fears of self (ego) invalidity at bay. Their arguments actually feed their ego, which keeps them further away from God.

What a poor attempt at mind-reading. One could of course say the exact same thing about theists.

Pride is their motto. The idea of living a life of humility and meekness frightens them. In truth, they are just scared of losing their false-self for their spirit-self. Unconditional love from the humble and meek is their cure - the very thing they fear.

Epistemic humility is something I care about quite a lot. I think it's important to be able to admit ignorance, to say "I don't know" when one genuinely does not know. I don't think it's humble to pretend to possess an infallible grasp of absolute truth. I don't think it's humble to cast aspersions on the sincere doubts of others by claiming that "pride is their motto". I don't think it's humble to try to shut down a legitimate line of inquiry by attacking someone's character.

 

[Colter]

I am an atheist and am here for several reasons:

1) I'm very curious how so many people could come to believe something that is absurd as believing that thousands of invisible orange fire breathing dragons are roaming the plains of western Kansas.

2) The Christian belief that a god exists seems to be a rationalization for their fear of death. I could be wrong, so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt to convince me.

3) It's possible that a god really does exist. If so, I would most definitely like to see its power in action.

4) I'm curious what kind of evidence Christians consider sufficient to believe that a god exists. See my post at http://www.christianforums.com/t7879335/

That is an example of Atheist theology, it's the current belief of this individual.

Gods power in action is all around you, it's in you, it is you. Within the nucleus of our mind is the pre-personal spirit of God. You could one day seek it and choose to do it's will or continue to live in the animal origin ego.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

That is an example of Atheist theology, it's the current belief of this individual.

Every time I read this I think of two groups of people laughing at the same time - atheists and theologians.

 

[yesyoushould]

The original post is legitimate. I think Christians are good minus non believers.

 

[KCfromNC]

Interesting that many people joined this site as Christians but then have changed since joining...

One of the most interesting arguments against religion is how bad the arguments for it are. Seeing other people rely on them can be an eye opener to people less emotionally committed to a particular answer.