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I saw a Youtube show once, where some guy who was a biblical expert explained that there is no definitive version of the Bible.I would say its a specific doctrine some hold to - that the Bible was inspired in a way of a dictation, ie every word in it is from God, from the perspective of God and without any possible error.
"If I was timeless, then I would persist throughout all time. I would never have to wait, I would merely shift my consciousness (in an instant) to the point in time that I felt was interesting."If I was timeless, then I would persist throughout all time. I would never have to wait, I would merely shift my consciousness (in an instant) to the point in time that I felt was interesting.
The god might have, but didn't need to.
If the god did, then great, if the god didn't, then great too. Neither approach seems to be a challenge to the god story.
But yet the central message has remained the same, we are fallen due to sin and only Jesus through His sacrifice can remove that sin and restore us to God.I saw a Youtube show once, where some guy who was a biblical expert explained that there is no definitive version of the Bible.
He explained that all we have is copies of copies of copies, and that there are many of these, and that they all differ from each other (not always significantly but quite often in trivial ways).
But there is no definitive word for word version.
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They believe that the whole Bible, every word, was inspired in a perfect, dictation-like manner. They may admit that todays printed Bibles have errors, but not significant ones altering the original words too much.I saw a Youtube show once, where some guy who was a biblical expert explained that there is no definitive version of the Bible.
He explained that all we have is copies of copies of copies, and that there are many of these, and that they all differ from each other (not always significantly but quite often in trivial ways).
But there is no definitive word for word version.
Skip to 1m45.
I don't want to get too much into discussion about the contents of the bible. I haven't read it, I have a very poor understanding of the Christian position on the bible.The main reason is no death before sin. The origin of sin, the result of sin and the answer for sin is part of the gospel.
There are basically views like:I have a very poor understanding of the Christian position on the bible.
If you really believe animals have souls, do they need a Savior? Could you eat animals if you think they have souls just like humans do?There isn't any evidence that they don't have them either, the bible is silent on that topic because its not primarily a scientific book. Its the story of God's relationship with man and the story of Jesus principally. Like it says in 1 Corinthians 13:12 - wee see only a dim reflection of reality.
Yes its a bit of conundrum. Firstly if animals have souls, they won't be the same as ours, they would be lesser souls. Animals don't sin like us, at least not the ones i know so while they exist in this fallen world and die, hopefully they too will exist in the new heaven and earth to come. I certainly hope my much loved pets can be there as I consider them part of my family.If you really believe animals have souls, do they need a Savior? Could you eat animals if you think they have souls just like humans do?
"I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?"
So you don't think we have a soul that survives our bodily death? So we are no different from the animals then.I don't. I think God breathed into man and he became a living soul... not any animal. And this happened when God created men separate from the animals.
Well then, why bring it up? Nobody else thinks souls evolve.I don't. I think God breathed into man and he became a living soul... not any animal. And this happened when God created men separate from the animals.
Ok, but if we don't have a soul that persists after death then when God resurrects you what He is doing is creating another you, ie the 1st copy or clone of you, with your memories and appearance, but it won't be you, you'll have ceased to exist. On the plus side though, under that scenario, no reason why God can't create copies of my loved pets so my clone can enjoy them too!No, it's just more creationist passive aggression.
Re No 2 - Even if we evolved from apes, there is nothing to suggest Jesus wasn't God made into a man. I'm sure God can transform himself into anything He wants (burning bush anyone?). An ape is just a category of zoological distinction, and we are apes, whether created or evolved, just like any 2 models of car are 'cars' even though they are made by separate companies and not evolved.
Many people think its all or nothing, either we evolved or we didn't. However even if evolution is true, (not saying it is or isn't btw) there is nothing to stop God from tweaking that evolution at certain key critical moments to get us, just like someone may trim a hedge etc to get it to have a desired shape.
Yes, well, old British sports cars ARE made by God. Look, God can do anything He wants, how He wants, when He wants. If He wants to tinker, He will tinker.Nothing to stop God doing anything.
So why assume he lacks the capacity to set
things up to turn out as He likes, right from the
first? You'd having Him tamper and tinker as if he' d
made an old British sports car. : D
Yes, well, old British sports cars ARE made by God. Look, God can do anything He wants, how He wants, when He wants. If He wants to tinker, He will tinker.
Why did Jesus heal some by laying hands, and others by spitting on mud and putting it in their eyes & others just by a verbal command?? Because He chose to do it that way because He can.
All I was trying to do was show that evolution does not have too exclude God, God can still work with evolution and craft it if that's what He chose to do.
Well it's just speculating on possibilities but in any case I wouldn't necessarily call a being that is eternal and can manipulate processes like evolution to serve it's own ends lesser, its still pretty impressive stuff & a heck of a lot more than what we or anything else we know can do.Just seems like a lesser god that would need to.
Not that i believe in any god.
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