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What can be worse that eternity in fire?I see the "eternal fire" as metaphor for something infinitely worse. When second death occurs, one seperated from one's body again, therefore they are not physical in hell, therefore no eternal fire, fire is physical, so its a metaphor for something waaaaaaaaay worse.
What can be worse that eternity in fire?
\Your scenario focuses on physical pain, not spiritual pain, which is worse in my view.
1 Corinthians 15:44 (NASB)
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
He would have to correct Himself, or at the very least wipe out of the bible all those verses saying He is righteous and fair, not to mention gracious.God being omnipotent and omniscient can indeed proclaim the sentence of eternal punishment in Hell. Who will correct Him?
Yes, that's how it is in the world. A homeless person just isn't worth as much as the president. It's perverted and sickening.I see it different. There are different degrees of wrongness for the same crime, due to who the crime was committed against. For example:
Shooting a homeless person
Shooting a cop
Shooting the President
A crime committed against a finite being deserves a finite punishment.
A crime committed against an infinite being deserves an infinite punishment.
Sounds like you've never been burned.Eternal and complete separation from God. Your scenario focuses on physical pain, not spiritual pain, which is worse in my view. The physical pain Christ felt on the cross was a cake walk compared to the spiritual pain felt on the cross.
What?Correct. But where did you get the idea the scenario works in reverse in the same absolute sense? This is true, however, it does not necessarily follow that the presence of a spiritual body implies the presence of a natural body.
Again!!! Your unScriptural opinion. Very unScriptural.He would have to correct Himself, or at the very least wipe out of the bible all those verses saying He is righteous and fair, not to mention gracious.
My point is that no, that's not how God is. Many people actually do believe that if you do steal a paperclip and then die, God is going to torment you forever and ever, even though so many passages say that God will judge righteously.that theory fails even in your own view, the wages of sin is death. Do we deserve to be killed for stealing a paper clip? not really in your opinion, but that thats how God is. Right?
Alright, but the question is how the authors of the bible understand and use the term. That I don't know.yeah the greek word for soul has two definitions, one for life, and one non physical aspect different from the body.
here is just one of many examples of lexicons offering this:
H2416
Thayer:
1) breath
1a) the breath of life
1a1) the vital force which animates the body and shows itself in breathing
1a1a) of animals
1a12) of men
1b) life
1c) that in which there is life
1c1) a living being, a living soul
2) the soul
2a) the seat of the feelings, desires, affections, aversions (our heart, soul etc.)
2b) the (human) soul in so far as it is constituted that by the right use of the aids offered it by God it can attain its highest end and secure eternal blessedness, the soul regarded as a moral being designed for everlasting life
2c) the soul as an essence which differs from the body and is not dissolved by death (distinguished from other parts of the body)
He is sovereign and omnipotent and righteous. Hitler is none of these. Are you?Who is God to judge Hitler if God Himself is going to torture those six million men, women and children infinitely longer than anything they experienced in the death camps?
You keep offering your opinion. It does not trump God's word.But it's simple, really. Does the bible say God will judge fairly? Yes.
Is it possible that eternal torment is fair for any human that have lived for abour 80 years? No.
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