why according to atheism a natural process + time= a robot

[xianghua]

according to atheism the whole universe (uncluding all the objects inside it)was made by a natural process. thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

 

[Speedwell]

according to atheism the whole universe (uncluding all the objects inside it)was made by a natural process. thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

How can a natural process create what are defined as man-made objects?

 

[essentialsaltes]

There is nothing supernatural about making a car.

 

[archer75]

So if you have a car and you remove a natural process from it, do you get time?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So if you have a car and you remove a natural process from it, do you get time?

Yeah, you just need to go to the hardware store for a spray can of "natural-process-begone" and voila!

 

[SkyWriting]

according to atheism the whole universe (uncluding all the objects inside it)was made by a natural process. thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

Even believers don't all agree that God controls everything. So atheists are in good company.

What Does the Bible Say About Omniscience?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

How can a natural process create what are defined as man-made objects?

Well, evolution is a natural process that has produced humans, and humans have produced robots and cars, so I don't have a problem with OP as a statement of the possible, although it should be qualified that it seems very unlikely that this particular sequence is inevitable, and that atheism has nothing to do with it

 

[Kenny'sID]

Well, evolution is a natural process that has produced humans, and humans have produced robots and cars, so I don't have a problem with OP as a statement of the possible, although it should be qualified that it seems very unlikely that this particular sequence is inevitable, and that atheism has nothing to do with it

Not bad, except the eventual outcome, somewhere along the line was just what the OP stated, and unless I'm missing something, there need be no particular sequence, as long as it happened eventually

thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

It can and it did.

 

[xianghua]

How can a natural process create what are defined as man-made objects?

since even a man is the result of natural process then also his products.

 

[xianghua]

There is nothing supernatural about making a car.

so you agree that a car is the result of a natural process?

 

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[pitabread]

since even a man is the result of natural process then also his products.

That's not how the word "natural" is typically used and understood in the English language. I know that English is not your native language so you may wish to take some time to learn how words are used to avoid using them improperly.

All this thread boils down to is a semantics argument based on non-standard use of the word "natural" and is arguably just an example of equivocation.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

If the world and life are supernatural creations, would that mean any robots we build are also supernatural?

 

[Speedwell]

since even a man is the result of natural process then also his products.

If you assume that human manufacture is a natural process.

 

[essentialsaltes]

so you agree that a car is the result of a natural process?

If the two exclusive options are natural and supernatural, then certainly there is nothing supernatural about the production of a car. If those are the only options offered, then it is natural.

Ordinarily, we draw a distinction between natural and artificial ('made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally'). So if we're given three options: natural, artificial, supernatural. Then obviously cars are artificial.

This is not rocket science. (Rockets are artificial.)

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

since even a man is the result of natural process then also his products.

Not true or correct in the slightest.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

according to atheism the whole universe (uncluding all the objects inside it)was made by a natural process. thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

According to creationism the universe and everything in it were created by God. Thus God can create robots and cars according to creationism. Or creation+time= a car.

I've heard of divine fiat, but I didn't think it was referring to an Italian automobile.

 

[xianghua]

That's not how the word "natural" is typically used and understood in the English language. I know that English is not your native language so you may wish to take some time to learn how words are used to avoid using them improperly.

All this thread boils down to is a semantics argument based on non-standard use of the word "natural" and is arguably just an example of equivocation.

are you saying that when man move his hand its not a natural process but a directed process?

 

[essentialsaltes]

are you saying that when man move his hand its not a natural process but a directed process?

Are you saying that when a waterfall falls down (as opposed to left or right or up) it's not a natural process but a directed process?

Waterfalls and people are natural things. They act as they do according to their nature and the laws that govern natural things. Gravity directs a waterfall, and the brain directs the motion of a hand. But there is nothing unnatural about either.

 

[Belk]

according to atheism the whole universe (uncluding all the objects inside it)was made by a natural process. thus a natural process can create robots and cars according to atheism. or a natural process+time= a car.

That is incorrect. Atheists only lack belief in a deity. It makes zero claims about the origins of the universe.