Why 2012?????

[TheSensitive1]

Okay so many folks that I have talked with say that the end will be 2012.
WHat is the deal with that year.
Is it that GOd has it "programed" in us to be prepared OR is it for some (like me) wishful thinking????
My boss once pointed this out to me NEXT year is 2006 BUT ON June 6,2006....how do we write that date????
The boss says it will be 6/6/06?????...that is a BAD day!!!!
SO is 2012 JUST a random picking?
WHAT is your thoughts on the year 2012?
Is the Rapture sooner or later???
God bless you all!!! PLEASE remember to be kind!!!!

 

[Phoenix]

WHAT is your thoughts on the year 2012?

It'll be a good year. I'll be 47 ( gasp ! ) my son will be 19 and my daughter will be 22. I'll be a few years closer to retirement, with any luck both children will be in college. Beyond that the years will come and go.

 

[tel0004]

I think the exact date is December 21, 2012. I think it has something to do with aztek calenders, since the date is 12/21/12. I dont think it has anything do do with christian philisophy

I think 2011 is more popular as a though, since some bible sources have a generation at 51 years. 51 years after 1967 (Jerusalem becoming the capital of isreal) is 2018. Subtract a 7 year tribulation, and you get 2011. I believe it could be soon, but it wont come at the very end of a generation. It will be a suprise.

 

[NumberOneSon]

Okay so many folks that I have talked with say that the end will be 2012.
WHat is the deal with that year.
Is it that GOd has it "programed" in us to be prepared OR is it for some (like me) wishful thinking????

This came up a couple weeks ago, so I'll just post what I did then; the most popular belief I've seen concerning 2012 and the "end" of the world comes from the soon approaching end of the Mayan Long Count calender in 2012.

Conspiracy theories abound on the internet with sensationalistic claims that some great eschatological event was predicted at the end of the 5000 year Mayan Long Count. These people either don't have a clue or are willfully ignorant of the calander. The Mayan calanders "end" exactly the same way ours do; in other words, when our Julian calander ends on December 31st, another calander cycle begins on Jan 1st. Nothing cataclysmic occurs when this takes place; just another calander year. The same goes with the Mayan Long Count, however that particular calander extends for 5000 years, not merely 365 days.

The only thing the Long Count calander "predicts" is certain patterns that may repeat throughout human history, just like our calander recognizes certain weather patterns that we can recognize each year. The Mayans looked at time like a wheel, not as a linear thing with a beginning and an end. Therefore, the Mayan Long Count doesn't predict the "end of the world" as many wish it would, because the Mayans didn't believe time had an end.

Hope that helped.

My boss once pointed this out to me NEXT year is 2006 BUT ON June 6,2006....how do we write that date????
The boss says it will be 6/6/06?????...that is a BAD day!!!!

It will be my brother's birthday, so it can't be that bad. Not to mention that 666 is not the same as 6606, so the date has nothing to do with the mark of the beast.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[Wolfman66]

Dont let Acts 6:5 fool you Sensitive. He has dry erase marker boards all over his study room and is wearing a tin-foil hat to keep the Government from brainwashing him. Okay, just kidding. These theories have always interested me to a degree.
Acts 6:5 is correct and it has been hashed out previously. My recommendation is this, you tell your boss that you agree and that you think the entire company should shut down that day with pay for every worker. Its a shot in the dark but you could just be paid for a day off for shoe shopping.
God has programmed the day but I doubt 06/06/06 will be that day. Nor do I put much salt on the 2010-2011-2012 theory. However, IMHO, I am beginning to feel that it could be soon. Albeit, it will never be soon enough for me. There are signs and I think we will know when it is near.
Dont be lured by every theory that comes down the pike. Likewise, dont be discouraged. Ours could be the generation of the fig tree.
Hope this helps.
<puts on tinfoil hat and picks up red dry erase marker and mumbles, "guess now I got to cross out 06/06/06.......drats!">

 

[NumberOneSon]

Dont let Acts 6:5 fool you Sensitive. He has dry erase marker boards all over his study room and is wearing a tin-foil hat to keep the Government from brainwashing him.

It's a copper-foil hat, buddy - I won't let those stinkin' Feds read my brainwaves!

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[Wolfman66]

Copper! They never told me I needed copper. I've just been using leftover foil paper wrappers from my Big Mac's as protection.
Now I got to rethink my gameplan. <Ponders, how many pennys will need to be melted to make a Ghenghis Khan type brain thought protector. Pulls paper hat from head, sniffs the clear odor of cheeseburger and wads up hat and tosses in garbage can.>
Nostradamus should have made the metal type just a little more clear. Paper foil with the smell of "special sauce" is not the same as copper.
Im beginning to have my doubts about Nostradamus' credibility.

 

[TheListener]

So we know what only God is supposed to know?

 

[Jipsah]

Okay so many folks that I have talked with say that the end will be 2012. WHat is the deal with that year.

Twelve years seems to be the increment you bump your End Times timetable when your latest can't-miss date for the return of the Lord comes and goes. It was 1988, then 2000, and now it's 2012. In 2013 they'll bump it ahead to 2024.

Is it that GOd has it "programed" in us to be prepared OR is it for some (like me) wishful thinking????

Wishful thinking. Scripture shows us that date setting is futile.

My boss once pointed this out to me NEXT year is 2006 BUT ON June 6,2006....how do we write that date????

The boss says it will be 6/6/06?????...that is a BAD day!!!!

He needs to read the Scripture again. It isn't talking about a bunch of sixs landing together, it's talking about the number six hundred sixty six. In addition, Scripture says that 666 is the number of a man, not a date. It is (or was) a means of identifying a specific person.

 

[Entertaining_Angels]

Let me just say something, I hope if anybody who believes any of the many 'Jesus returning' predictions has children, I hope you don't share this with your children.

Let me tell you why.

Back in the 70's and 80's my mother was very into these predictions (she still is but God's freed me from those heretical teachings). As a child I, as children do, believed my mother and trusted her. Jesus didn't come back in the 80's and then He forgot to come back in the 90's and those dates came and went. She now seems to believe 2005 (or it seems to be shifting into 2006) is the year. God's really helped me to forgive her but that doesn't erase the fact that these teachings caused me a great deal of confusion and pain as a child.

Nobody knows the day or hour and they don't even know the year. Some people seem to think that natural disasters will occur in intensity and within the year, we'll be out of here. However, looking at God's timescale, it could be another 40 years or 400 years.

Stay away from the predictions. Keep watch for Him because He could come back in a blink of an eye or it could be 40 or more years from now. Don't lose your focus and I do firmly believe these predictions make Christians lose their focus. So, in this case, let's say for a moment 2012 comes and goes, do you just find another person who has a prediction (and there is always a prediction) to latch onto?

This is said in love simply because I don't want people to go through what I have been through in my lifetime.

 

[NewLight04]

i think it is going to be sooner than 2012. The way all this natural disasters are going on

 

[TheSensitive1]

i think it is going to be sooner than 2012. The way all this natural disasters are going on

OH I so agree!!!! I think that there are ALOT of other things as well my friend!

 

[TheSensitive1]

I think the exact date is December 21, 2012. I think it has something to do with aztek calenders, since the date is 12/21/12. I dont think it has anything do do with christian philisophy

I think 2011 is more popular as a though, since some bible sources have a generation at 51 years. 51 years after 1967 (Jerusalem becoming the capital of isreal) is 2018. Subtract a 7 year tribulation, and you get 2011. I believe it could be soon, but it wont come at the very end of a generation. It will be a suprise.

 

[Kingdom_Come]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

I think I will go with this over anyone’s predictions. People continue to amaze me with the many different methods they have for determining when The Lord will return. I suppose if you guess every date from here to eternity you are almost bound to be right about one of them. The truth is we don’t know, not even the angels know. The generation that is here when certain signs transpire will know they are of the generation that will not pass until all things are fulfilled. However it is more important to live faithfully and share the gospel until the end, be it death or translation.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

 

[TheSensitive1]

I think I will go with this over anyone’s predictions. People continue to amaze me with the many different methods they have for determining when The Lord will return. I suppose if you guess every date from here to eternity you are almost bound to be right about one of them. The truth is we don’t know, not even the angels know. The generation that is here when certain signs transpire will know they are of the generation that will not pass until all things are fulfilled. However it is more important to live faithfully and share the gospel until the end, be it death or translation.

Friend that is SO true!!! See, a GOOD freind on CF (oregal) has pointed out to me that I should RELY on GOD only NOT these predictions that I am hearing! IT is hard and a struggle of mine BUT I need to remember:
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

God Bless you friend!

 

[Entertaining_Angels]

I think I will go with this over anyone’s predictions. People continue to amaze me with the many different methods they have for determining when The Lord will return. I suppose if you guess every date from here to eternity you are almost bound to be right about one of them. The truth is we don’t know, not even the angels know. The generation that is here when certain signs transpire will know they are of the generation that will not pass until all things are fulfilled. However it is more important to live faithfully and share the gospel until the end, be it death or translation.

We could have a pool to see who is right. Now, I was thinking, how would we do this because if somebody is right, well, nobody will be here to pay up. So how about a reverse pool of sorts. Everybody pick a day they think the Lord will return. If that day comes and goes, that person passes on their amount to the next person. If the next person's day comes and goes, they take the money they got from the last person plus their amount and pass it to the next person...so on and so forth. As soon as everybody has their dates locked in, I'll submit my best guess


And in the meantime, we should live every day as if it is our last. Chances are some of us (if not all) will die before Christ returns and we need to be doing more to further the Kingdom. And, if you have children, I strongly encourage you to be praying for them, their future spouses (or current if need be) and your future grandchildren on a daily basis. Jesus can come at any minute, or any year or any generation. Could be ours. Let's not be surprised if it is our generation but, if it's not, prepare the future generations as well.

God bless

 

[Codger]

Dear CF,
The Dispensationalists say that all time is divided into seven periods of 1,000 years each. The seventh being the 1,000 year reign of Christ. So the question is - when is the 6,000 year period coming to an end? Shouldn't the second coming coincide with the very end of the 6,000 years? Shouldn't the tribulation begin seven years before the start of the last 1,000 years?

I use the timetable developed by Frank Klasson who was an engineer (Architect) who laid out a timeline on his drafting board working backwards in time using mostly time points from the Bible itself. Ancient history is accurate from the time of Alexander forward, but before him it is much more difficult to trace. His work does not depend on the often used errant work of a popular Egyption astrologer. If Adam is the starting point of the beginning of time, then we would use his birthday as the beginning of the 7,000 years. Adam was created on Friday April 1st 3975bc.

I have never had a problem with Klasson's timeline: and I treasure his now out of print book - The Chronology of the Bible. By the way, the 6,000 years are up in 2025 (April 1st?). Of course any date setting is only pure speculation.

Larry

 

[Wolfman66]

Oregal: Your posts sure hit the spot. With me anyway. I also was victim to predictions and fabricated events to justify "the end is near" back in the 70's. After that I lost confidence. In 1988, I was at a mall and some guy handed me a book "88 Reasons why the Rapture is in '88". I read it finally this year.
Also you alluded to the fact of having a pool. It made me think. How many date setters would ACTUALLY put their retirement check on the line? I doubt most would. However, I do think that ours could be the generation that experiences the great event. I am hopeful it will be soon. If it isnt (and Im not basing it on a predicted date) soon, I am going to be seriously disappointed.
Codger: I do think and have thought there to be significance in the way God uses times and numbers. It is for that reason that I think ours could be the generation. Thanks for posting that.

 

[Entertaining_Angels]

Wolfman, I think for those of us who have been subjected to false prophesies and predictions, we tend to be very cautious about this stuff. To tell the truth, with these threads I keep having flashbacks to some of the stuff I had to endure growing up. These predictions won't bring anybody into the Fold, but they certainly have the power to repel people when they don't come to pass.

I tend to believe God is coming back soon and I tend to believe it is in my lifetime but many Christians before me have thought that. And, so, I watch for the signs but I do not try to predict the time because I believe we are warned against that for a reason.

God bless you.

 

[Kathy]

2012 seems a bit to far away...Things are moving along so fast...thats almost 6 yrs away,not to far but far enough...I just don't feel it will be that far off... Kathy