Who's to 'blame' then?

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it is man that assigns blame to man [falsely], not God.
God simply uses our response to suffering to turn us and redeem us from the evil he has subjected us to for His purpose of our exploring evil for Him [which He cannot do Himself]

God accepts full responsibility for all suffering for the simple reason that He deliberayely created evil for His purpose in us of disproving that it works.

We are [kindly?] allowed the illusion of free-will [some of us for a while anyway (until getting around to reading Spinoza or some such?)] whilst God holds the reins on His children until they re-learn how to BE [Love].

Nobody FAILS in suffering but all [even those who die in the womb or starve as little ones in this pitiless world] contribute to the witness against evil that God seeks [ONLY] from man. [even Jesus had to suffer excruciatingly (and unjustly!)]

The value [and 'dignity'?] of man is to God, not by man's moralities or judgments and is established eventually to all men [after most have died] in the end...

Because the will of God is to prove His point about Love -to ALL His creation [there can be no failure, no ultimate disagreement ... as an absolute consequence of Love itself... ]

Thus all tears cease when all men and angels come eventually to full realisation of the Truth of Love ... we do not take with us our commitment to worldly knowledge , only the memory of it and why it fails. [rather suprisingly perhaps, even science ,which only looks backwards [observation is of the past] ,already has witness of this [in paradoxes] but chooses to ignore it[unscientifically!] and only [on the whole] views its 'successes'.

God is ONLY interested in the thorough exploration of evil [and you ain't seen nothing yet!!!] ... those who have been chosen (predestinated] to acknowledge the truth [within] first are removed first from the world [at Christ's return] ... what is left is more significantly balanced toward evil! ... and the power process continues right up to the point where Satan alone [who has become a man, just as the Word became Jesus the man] remains to be redeemed as the ultimate 'prodigal son' [of God].

Even through death and resurrection [for God is master over death] we are [ultimately] slaves to principalities beyond ourselves despite our illusions of this world [we would say something like our behaviour is determined by thoughts, emotions, desires which in turn are driven by beliefs, genetics, etc and we might even come to 'see' that even beliefs are shaped from parents, teachers, environment, etc .... but its all determinate puppetry [or random!.. another discussion?]

Thus we see the consequence of our actions and learn in a very 'safe' but somewhat unpleasant environment WITHOUT being ultimately responsible for being placed here and our actions [since we even do things that we hate from inside to do (that go against our internal witness of Love, our spirit) ]

To look at it rationally, there is only one absolute, Love [and that we can come to acknowledge] ...

and we MUST eventually realise to START FROM belief in the ABSOLUTE [as an axiom, a given] ..... thus this Love [which I identify as God] is THE judgment, not any morality or idea that we may come across in the world...

Thus ONLY God CAN judge man [not man judge from outside perfection] and God simply does NOT do so [ for He does not ultimately need to or purpose to!.... since our judgment is already within us [by hand of our Creator] for the purpose ONLY of our ultimate recognition of God [Love] ,not for condemnation...

Hence we have the apparent illusion of Mercy also, whereas this is integrally 'part' of God because He is solely responsible [ultimately! ... , the only real sense of responsibility]...

We are little children with whom our Loving Father plays safe learning games for His purpose in which we shall ultimately be well pleased and glorify Him ...after the tears.

 

[rwc109]

The prequel to Matt 12:35 is :-

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

So man is not ultimately free to be good or evil, it is all just a game, a lesson, no matter how seriously we may take various illusions on the way.

So we reach the point where the 'dignity' of man turns out to be another man-made illusion [we would say ,perhaps ,made of his ego]

We only have dignity or not within our own conception [and only until perfected] and it has nothing to do with God's valuing us ... God values us 'because we are' out of lovingness for being, not on the basis of our early [good] or late [evil] coming to know perfection.

Another way of looking at this is that ecil simply cannot continue destroying indefinitly, thus either evil anihilates everything or evil eventually ceases ...

Now good in man is corrupted by evil and evil 'begets' evil, so there is no hope for the world within imperfect mankind

... there simply has to be a perfect absolute incorruptible good [Love,Truth] in order that man can at all return to perfection...

.. thia is exactly what Jesus offered man in the spirit of truth [the Comforter, the holy ghost] , tha ONLY witness of perfection on earth at this time
... hence Jesus saying that he is the ONLY way [not a statement of egoism, just a fact based on the nature of evil and its otherwise irreversible grip on mankind.

The prophecy is indeed that 'christian' tradition and dogma becomes apostate [corrupted, fallen away] and this is exactly what the antichrist uses ... what does it matter if man is accused/judged falsely by corrupted religion [or by other men outside religion for that matter] ?

love is the ultimate [absolute[ judgment we make on ourselves and [whatever our character, etc] we fail it because we do not ignore the tradition of evil in the world [one way or another]

Thus we all need God (eventually) [or must accept the view that we live and die meaninglessly unable to reach our goal ... and thus that the being of mankind is meaningless (else what meaning?)]

 

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There is nothing meaningless in the PROVING during our life that God [Love] is right [even if it continues to a conclusion past death for many], it is a noble learning that only we can do {even if the outcome is inevitable}

...It is our special ROLE in an integral confirmation extending the glory of God by our witness of the failure of everything in time [evil. decay, death] which is not God ...nor is evil experiencable by God directly ...hence diectly through us, hence our suffering in many ways 'for a while' integral to our role]

... we first explore evil [and even love annd truth in man's sense] and then our emerging into awareness, acknowledgment, and action of perfect Love is progressive once we are turned by Truth to pursuing it instead ...

and we are also allowed our many illusions in the process ... mankind can get emotional and thoughtful , quite lost in illusion even as an integral means to thorough exloration of what is not God [religion, politics, science, art, ...]

... but perfection is integrally necessary ultimately in order to leave time, death, and decay behind

.... so the endpoint itself has to be inevitable [or Love would fail, which is 'ABSOLUTELY' impossible for God as it would be un-Loving , against the very thing for which He stands , even represents]

[as Spinoza elucidated , our 'freedom' [in his sense] is complete only in coming to perfect knowledge

[which thus frees us from the state of having (involuntary) wrong action offend our being :-

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? ]

What we do in [and for many beyond] this life stands as a witness [even beyond time] that God is right... that is PROVED ONLY by human beings... that is down to us alone and is a very meaningful [integral] extension of the glory of God special to man... we are individual witness in what we have done wrong PROVING its wrongness in ACTION in life, before coming to rightness [for many this will be beyond death but the life witness is still meaningful evidence of the falure of evil ]...

 

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Since I have descibed the meaning it should be clear that there is some possibility of understnding ultimate meaningfulness BEFORE the end of time [for here we are with the described meaning, such as it is]...

Also I would like to emphasise the special feature of this 'theory' where every being's contribution to the external proof of God's rightness is UNIQUE and essential [and thus of the highest importance]

Whilst the ultimate meaning is unrevealed to most [deliberately as a necessary part of the plan] , it is substituted with the apparently valid illusion that one is overcoming the world through one's 'free-will' effort to be good despite evil [thus the individual's life does not appear meaningless to the individual]

...until one comes to the acknowledgment that one is consistently failing and needs apparently in oneself to overcome that 'ego' of natural mind and views constrained by this world, and seek the ultimate truth [which brings in appropriate turn the true knowledge and true meaningfuness of life to light]...

So it's not quite a bleak picture that could be painted, God has gone out of His way to allow us variety of insight along the way to prevent 'boredom' in our 'childhood' learning [for His purpose]

... and the final revelation is dramatic, frightening and awe-inspiring to provide a climax.... not such a bad deal

... especially when compared to the integral alterntives Satan and man can come up with imagining which offer neither hope nor 'dignity' nor explanation of all observable phenomena

... Thus I claim that God [without traditional religious dogma] is the best 'theory' too - even from a scientific or philosoohical viewpoint and would seek with great personal interest any justification/evidence for maintaining an alternative , even possibly an atheistic stance.

[ what alternative overall picture reveals any other difference between the tme of man emerging on the scene and his end ,that could demonstrate some meaning to life?]