Who Decides the Right Interpretation of the Bible?

[concretecamper]

Right, exactly. So my point stands.

Strike 3. The Church isn't still debating this theology

If you can't give me a source, how am I supposed to look it up? Do you want me to know the truth or don't you?

I pointed you in the right direction. Do some research, it's good for the soul.

 

[All Becomes New]

Strike 3. The Church isn't still debating this theology

Strike three? So the Catholic church does not say anything about whether Mary was assumed into heaven alive or dead, and you still think that Catholicism has all the answers?

I pointed you in the right direction. Do some research, it's good for the soul.

Well, if you want to give a reason why guys like Dr. Gavin Ortlund are wrong, you are going to have to give me a reason to care. As far as I can see, Gavin is right and you don't want to give me a source to show he is wrong. Have it your way then. As far as I am concerned, the issue is settled.

 

[concretecamper]

Strike three? So the Catholic church does not say anything about whether Mary was assumed into heaven alive or dead, and you still think that Catholicism has all the answers?

It has all the truth.

Well, if you want to give a reason why guys like Dr. Gavin Ortlund are wrong, you are going to have to give me a reason to care. As far as I can see, Gavin is right and you don't want to give me a source to show he is wrong. Have it your way then. As far as I am concerned, the issue is settled.

Yes, it is settled that you don't want to research the topic. Says a lot. Ugh. Strike 4

Like I said before regarding the assumption of May

"I'll give you a hint, Emperor Marcian"

 

[HARK!]

People who harassed Gentile converts in Paul's day, claiming that they needed to keep the law of Moses and be circumcised. Their efforts lost momentum when the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D.

James outlined what was required of the Ger Toshab at the Council of Jerusalem.

Anomian means "person who does not believe that Jesus Christ is God".

No it doesn't.

 

[All Becomes New]

It has all the truth.

Except this one truth, which the Catholic church does not know the answer to.

Strike 4

I think you are mixing up your strikes. The strike is supposed to be for the original point I made, not a secondary point that came up. A little consistency would be nice.

It would also be nice to know if you are following the theology of a heretic. Everyone is against Marcian, so if you are trying to point me to his writings, IDK what to tell you, but no one in the ECF likes him at all. Also, his name comes up a LOT so I have no idea where to look.

 

[linux.poet]

No it doesn't.

Another round of Googling gives me that antinomian and anomian are theology synonyms. I already responded to the idea of antinomianism in my previous post as regards whether Jesus addressed anomianism/antinomianism and I see no need to repeat myself.

Remind them of these things, and solemnly exhort them in the presence of God not to dispute about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the listeners.

I had more time to think about the Ezekiel passage, and that qualification for the Sons of Zadok does not even seem to extend to the New Testament either, since that passage is talking about the Law. Still, reading their opinions is something I want to look into.

Generally, declaring any one group of people as -the- authority on Scripture interpretation bothers me, though I think believers in Christ are better at it than unbelievers by several orders of magnitude in terms of accuracy.

 

[HARK!]

Another round of Googling gives me that antinomian and anomian are theology synonyms. I already responded to the idea of antinomianism in my previous post as regards whether Jesus addressed anomianism/antinomianism and I see no need to repeat myself.

You didn't provide a link to the source of your misinformation.

Have you discovered your mistake yet?

If not, maybe this will help:

ανομιαν
anomian
G458

G458 - anomia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G458 - ἀνομία anomía, an-om-ee'-ah; from ; illegality, i.e. violation of law or (genitive case) wickedness:—iniquity, transgress(-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.

www.blueletterbible.org

 

[linux.poet]

You didn't provide a link to the source of your misinformation.

Have you discovered your mistake yet?

If not, maybe this will help:

ανομιαν
anomian
G458

G458 - anomia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G458 - ἀνομία anomía, an-om-ee'-ah; from ; illegality, i.e. violation of law or (genitive case) wickedness:—iniquity, transgress(-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.

www.blueletterbible.org

NASB consistently translates anomia as “lawlessness”. There are numerous instances of Christ denouncing lawlessness under the link posted there.

Source: Google Search

Source: Anomia Meaning - Greek Lexicon | New Testament (KJV)

It’s all Greek to me. I’m out. I asked a simple Yes or No question that was not to be answered, and I have been sent on a wild goose chase by these posts. I have had quite enough.

 

[HARK!]

It’s all Greek to me. I’m out. I asked a simple Yes or No question that was not to be answered, and I have been sent on a wild goose chase by these posts. I have had quite enough.

If you search the verses for that Strong's number; you will see what Yahshua says on the subject. It's not good! It also has nothing to do with your previous assertion.

I won't speak for who is saved. I'm not the authority on that matter.

 

[RileyG]

God loses none of his elect.

So you accept predestination?

 

[Jerry N.]

I haven’t read every post on this thread, so I may be missing something. After a person is saved by the grace of God through belief in the work of Christ, that person is a “baby in Christ.” Then the journey of spiritual growth begins. We are made to be curious creatures, and we strive to know God through His Word and His Creation. If we actually had a 100% accurate interpretation of Scripture, we wouldn’t be as driven to study and discuss His Word. We are saved by grace not knowledge. I would bet that every Christian alive or passed away was wrong in some aspects of their beliefs, but it doesn’t separate them from God as long as their faith is in Christ. The journey is part of our life with the Holy Spirit. God is judge, so it is best to assume that all who have put their faith in Christ are our brothers and sisters; even if we think they are wrong about this or that.

My eyes are not good so I was having trouble finding one post I found interesting. “Why would God destroy the universe and start over?” was the question. We are made in His image, and we do it all of the time, for example, chalk art.

 

[Clare73]

So you accept predestination?

I accept Jn 6:39, Ro 8:29-30, Eph 1:4-5, 11.

 

[RDKirk]

The Holy Spirit decides.

Why is this a discussion among any Christians other than Cessationists.?

 

[honey badger]

the 66 books interpret themselves ...

 

[Jerry N.]

the 66 books interpret themselves ...

The Scriptures indeed interpret themselves, but passages sometimes jump out and say this one is for you at this time and this place. By the way, I am not a Cessationist.

 

[honey badger]

The Scriptures indeed interpret themselves, but passages sometimes jump out and say this one is for you at this time and this place. By the way, I am not a Cessationist.

do you see the patterns ?

 

[Jerry N.]

do you see the patterns ?

I studied hermeneutics for both Bible study and literature, so I see patterns. However, the pattern of life in relation to God is both simple, in that it generally repeats, and complex, in that it speaks to individuals. It is a wonderful thing, and we don’t live long enough to see it all. I’m not sure that answers your question.

 

[honey badger]

I studied hermeneutics for both Bible study and literature, so I see patterns. However, the pattern of life in relation to God is both simple, in that it generally repeats, and complex, in that it speaks to individuals. It is a wonderful thing, and we don’t live long enough to see it all. I’m not sure that answers your question.

what patterns do you see ?

 

[Jerry N.]

what patterns do you see ?

It is difficult to explain, but there are cycles of concentric circles of life. If you look at the history of the Israelites, the life of David, the life of Peter, the patriarchs, and most of the kings and judges, you see cycles of intense faith, failures, doubt, return, fear, and hope. Although the cycles are a little different in each case, they match the lives of many people and nations and organizations in ways that are helpful and hopeful. We are not all like Paul who went straight and at full speed from being called to his death.

 

[honey badger]

It is difficult to explain, but there are cycles of concentric circles of life. If you look at the history of the Israelites, the life of David, the life of Peter, the patriarchs, and most of the kings and judges, you see cycles of intense faith, failures, doubt, return, fear, and hope. Although the cycles are a little different in each case, they match the lives of many people and nations and organizations in ways that are helpful and hopeful. We are not all like Paul who went straight and at full speed from being called to his death.

well yes ... a seed time and harvest ... from where i see the scripture have patterns and these seen in numbers as these numbers speak to the patterns that reveal the process of this sowing and reaping ... and by this meaning our souls journey of a there and back as in the gospel of good tidings ...

in scripture it starts out as two as in a division of one these two came out of and these two take on a myriad of forms first seen in the very first verse ... Jesus making these two one again ..