WHO HAS THE MARK OF BEAST ?

[anetazo]

PARAPTOMA means = a fall, falling aside from truth and equity. Ezekiel 9:4. And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. This aligns with revelation chapter 7, those who have seal of God. There not going to worship antichrist near future. Those with seal of God know the rapture theory is lies and false doctrine. 9:5. And to the others He said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have pity. 9:2. And behold , six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lies toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; These people are being marked with the beast. Meaning, they have mark of beast. Revelation is 13, the whole world will worship antichrist. This is bible prophecy. Written over 2,000 years ago. Those with mark of beast are headed for spirtual destruction. Why would these 6 angels with slaughter weapon, mark those for spirtual destruction ?? Second thessalonians chapter 2:12. And they all might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Could this be the answer ??.

 

[Douggg]

Could this be the answer ??.

No.

We don't know what the mark of the beast is yet. Also it is the mark of his name.

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 

[sandman]

Those with seal of God know the rapture theory is lies and false doctrine

I wonder ...do you also refer to salvation as "the salvation theory" or the crucifixion as "the crucifixion theory"
Just wondering... if that is how you reference all of Gods divine events.

 

[dfw69]

PARAPTOMA means = a fall, falling aside from truth and equity. Ezekiel 9:4. And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. This aligns with revelation chapter 7, those who have seal of God. There not going to worship antichrist near future.

If this ezek prophecy has not been fulfilled in the past and is speaking of the future , idk

But assuming it’s the future… they are being sealed for protection from the judgement that soon follows after being marked and being rewarded with a mark for not participating in the abominations in Jerusalem

… seems to me that they sigh as witnesses to the abominations and cry out to the lord in prayer for justice and the sealing is going to protect them from what’s about to happen

If they are to be the 144000 sealed in the last days then their birthing comes before the worship of the antichrist and mark of the beast

So their sealing may not necessarily be because they refuse to worship the man claiming to be god …but because of their sighing and crying against the abominations of jerusalem

See the rise of antichrist is punishment for Israel’s sins and abominations so these men may be sealed before the rise of antichrist

Those with seal of God know the rapture theory is lies and false doctrine.

The rapture will have been a long distant memory by the time these men are sealed

9:5. And to the others He said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have pity. 9:2. And behold , six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lies toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand;

The judgement comes in the form of 6 men/angels slaughtering and starting from the temple

These people are being marked with the beast. Meaning, they have mark of beast.

No mentioning of being marked …seems to me they are being slaughtered not marked by the 6 men/angels

Revelation is 13, the whole world will worship antichrist.

Well no rev 13 says all whose names are Not written in the lambs book of life will worship the beast

The others whose do not worship will flee and some will go into captivity and some killed by the sword Rev 13:9-10

It is not until the 2nd beast arises that the mark of the beast is implemented

This is bible prophecy. Written over 2,000 years ago. Those with mark of beast are headed for spirtual destruction. Why would these 6 angels with slaughter weapon, mark those for spirtual destruction ??

Why do you think they are being marked?
The slaughter weapon is to kill not mark right?

Second thessalonians chapter 2:12. And they all might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Could this be the answer ??.

The truth is the good news of yasha and all that it implies which they rejected thus the reason for not being written in the lambs book of life

So whatever religion they will follow in those days it is deemed unrighteousness

 

[dfw69]

No.

We don't know what the mark of the beast is yet. Also it is the mark of his name.

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

The mark will most likely be Aleph tav
Or his name say Yeshua if he claims to be him or yahuah if he claims to be god
Or the number of his name 666/616

 

[sparow]

PARAPTOMA means = a fall, falling aside from truth and equity. Ezekiel 9:4. And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. This aligns with revelation chapter 7, those who have seal of God. There not going to worship antichrist near future. Those with seal of God know the rapture theory is lies and false doctrine. 9:5. And to the others He said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have pity. 9:2. And behold , six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lies toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; These people are being marked with the beast. Meaning, they have mark of beast. Revelation is 13, the whole world will worship antichrist. This is bible prophecy. Written over 2,000 years ago. Those with mark of beast are headed for spirtual destruction. Why would these 6 angels with slaughter weapon, mark those for spirtual destruction ?? Second thessalonians chapter 2:12. And they all might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Could this be the answer ??.

I do not expect the mark to be physical but to do with thought and allegiance. The image of the Beast causes the mark to be received, but the Beast will always have had a mark, which may have changed since the Caesars; if there is to be a physical mark I expect it will be a crucifix even a burning crucifix.

I believe Constantine is the Roman Governor who canonized the scriptures for us; below is a history of 3rd century Rome and "in this sign we will conquer"; Constantine galloped his army into the sea and said they were all baptized, and then he saw a burning cross in the sky. these really are worth watching, 1/2 hour each.

Constantine the Great | GameChanger – Part 1: The Birth of Two Empires - YouTube

Constantine the Great | GameChanger – Part 2: Empire Under Attack - YouTube

Constantine the Great | GameChanger – Part 3: The Empire Betrayed - YouTube

Constantine the Great | GameChanger – Part 4: The Empire Strikes Back - YouTube

 

[TribulationSigns]

No.

We don't know what the mark of the beast is yet. Also it is the mark of his name.

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Of course, you do not know because it is not a physical mark as you thought! It is a SPIRITUAL mark that the false prophets and christ (the body of the second beast of Revelation 13) put upon the unsealed people of the New Testament congregation of God after God has sealed His people first. The mark on their RIGHT HANDS signifies their will belongs to them, or on their forehead, signifying their mind is sold out to Satan. In other words, they agreed with the false doctrines of the False prophets and christs in the congregations.

 

[Twin_niwT]

No.

We don't know what the mark of the beast is yet. Also it is the mark of his name.

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Yes we do know what the Mark of the beast is. Only blind people don't know, or don't believe it.

Mark of the beast is the devil's intellect
Beast=Satan=Mankind
Mark of his name/nature= SIN/Rebellion
Number of his name= 666
666= equilateral triangle.
It symbolizes a sinner's intellect. He's at the bottom always reaching to get to the top and supersede God who is on the pinnacle. The pinnacle of the triangle is the Ego for those who have the devil's intellect.. The higher up he goes, the more grandiose and God-like he feels, then comes destruction. The higher up a Sheep Goes, the more Christlike he becomes. If you take the two triangles and invert them you get the star of David which represents the natural mind and the mind of Christ overlapping and inverted. So the sinner is actually sinking into hell because his triangle(mind) is inverted.

The Christmas tree is another example of the devil's intellect. If you worship the star (Ego,Devil) he will give you earthly gain (gifts). This is a massive abomination that causes desolation(Holy spirit leaves you). On the other hand, you can choose to see it as a representation of the mind of Christ. If you worship the star (Mind of Christ/God) you will receive Gifts of God.

Luke 4:5 KJV
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Mattew 4:5 KJV Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

All other translations take out the word Mountain because they don't want you to know the truth. It is referring to the human mind! Yuck! Thank you God for KJV!

The mountain is the 666 intellect. This is where your natural mind is tempted by the devil. Luke 4:5 is an example of man lusting after worldly gain and being tempted by the devil. If you do such and such, you will gain such and such, which is submission to the devil, if you put your imagination in to action. Jesus did not submit. When sheep are in the same position as Jesus was in Luke 4:5, they will respond exactly like Jesus because they have the mind of Christ which is the seal of God on their forehead. They do not have the mark of the beast which is the devils' intellect that they should submit to the devil for worldly gain and pleasures.

 

[sparow]

Yes we do know what the Mark of the beast is. Only blind people don't know, or don't believe it.

Mark of the beast is the devil's intellect
Beast=Satan=Mankind
Mark of his name/nature= SIN/Rebellion
Number of his name= 666
666= equilateral triangle.
It symbolizes a sinner's intellect. He's at the bottom always reaching to get to the top and supersede God who is on the pinnacle. The pinnacle of the triangle is the Ego for those who have the devil's intellect.. The higher up he goes, the more grandiose and God-like he feels, then comes destruction. The higher up a Sheep Goes, the more Christlike he becomes. If you take the two triangles and invert them you get the star of David which represents the natural mind and the mind of Christ overlapping and inverted. So the sinner is actually sinking into hell because his triangle(mind) is inverted.

The Christmas tree is another example of the devil's intellect. If you worship the star (Ego,Devil) he will give you earthly gain (gifts). This is a massive abomination that causes desolation(Holy spirit leaves you). On the other hand, you can choose to see it as a representation of the mind of Christ. If you worship the star (Mind of Christ/God) you will receive Gifts of God.

Luke 4:5 KJV
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Mattew 4:5 KJV Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

All other translations take out the word Mountain because they don't want you to know the truth. It is referring to the human mind! Yuck! Thank you God for KJV!

The mountain is the 666 intellect. This is where your natural mind is tempted by the devil. Luke 4:5 is an example of man lusting after worldly gain and being tempted by the devil. If you do such and such, you will gain such and such, which is submission to the devil, if you put your imagination in to action. Jesus did not submit. When sheep are in the same position as Jesus was in Luke 4:5, they will respond exactly like Jesus because they have the mind of Christ which is the seal of God on their forehead. They do not have the mark of the beast which is the devils' intellect that they should submit to the devil for worldly gain and pleasures.

Maybe Douggg should have said, "We cannot agree what the mark is."

It will be the Beast that will say what his Mark is, and he has already said, "In this sign, we shall conquer." and the sign was a crucifix.

 

[Twin_niwT]

It's stupid and blasphemous to think that evil doers can turn anything that comes from God into the "Mark of the beast" just because they used it for evil purposes, and claim it as their own. The Devil does indeed imitate God in every way, but don't you be a dummy and fall for it. Nothing that truly belongs to God will be used in vain. The world has fakes, copies and knock-offs, and rightfully so. Inferior will never dominate superior, evil will never win over good, it wont even be a partaker in the real thing, only a house of mirrors and their so called duper's delight which is a product of wrongful thinking and self deception.

 

[Veni]

Number of his name= 666
666= equilateral triangle.

How did you get triangle?

 

[Twin_niwT]

How did you get triangle?

I forgot to add that the three missing zeros are the spirit part.
666(Devil's intellect)
000(Mind of Christ)

 

[Veni]

I forgot to add that the three missing zeros are the spirit part.
666(Devil's intellect)
000(Mind of Christ)

What about perfect square? 666 can be a perfect square

 

[Twin_niwT]

What about perfect square? 666 can be a perfect square

Think of it in relation to Luke 4:5 KJV and Mat 4:5 KJV.
I'm only guessing because this is symbolic, but the triangle can also represent a pyramid, and the base of the pyramid is square. Perhaps you know more than me? Why did square come to mind? I don't study the occult, i'm just relaying what Christ told me - the Mark of the Beast is 100%, without a doubt, the Devil's intellect.

 

[Veni]

The Mark of the Beast is 100%, without a doubt, the Devil's intellect.

Agreed

 

[sparow]

It's stupid and blasphemous to think that evil doers can turn anything that comes from God into the "Mark of the beast" just because they used it for evil purposes, and claim it as their own. The Devil does indeed imitate God in every way, but don't you be a dummy and fall for it. Nothing that truly belongs to God will be used in vain. The world has fakes, copies and knock-offs, and rightfully so. Inferior will never dominate superior, evil will never win over good, it wont even be a partaker in the real thing, only a house of mirrors and their so called duper's delight which is a product of wrongful thinking and self deception.

I say this in the hope it might be helpful to you. You do not appear to know what blasphemy is.

Blasphemy is to usurp the authority of the God of Israel or to oppose God's authority. And is what Jesus was accused of.

Heresy on the other hand is to oppose the Church, primarily the Catholic Church. You seem to be confusing these two.

While God did say to give him credit for all things, context is required; Rome created the crucifix method of execution. I doubt that Jesus would have anything Good to say about the cross; the price of redemption; it did not have to be nasty. People Who wear a crucifix as jewellery, glorify that nastiness, and typically they are the ones who abrogate the Commandments of God, and to my mind that is blasphemy.

God does not need a crucifix in order to know who is with him or who is against Him; knowledge of the mark of the beast could prevent us from receiving it, but without recanting any thin I have said, for 2000 years the mark of the beast could vary from place to place and time to time; always the Mark will involve state of mind and action, sometimes inaction.

 

[Twin_niwT]

I say this in the hope it might be helpful to you. You do not appear to know what blasphemy is.

Blasphemy is to usurp the authority of the God of Israel or to oppose God's authority. And is what Jesus was accused of.

Heresy on the other hand is to oppose the Church, primarily the Catholic Church. You seem to be confusing these two.

While God did say to give him credit for all things, context is required; Rome created the crucifix method of execution. I doubt that Jesus would have anything Good to say about the cross; the price of redemption; it did not have to be nasty. People Who wear a crucifix as jewellery, glorify that nastiness, and typically they are the ones who abrogate the Commandments of God, and to my mind that is blasphemy.

God does not need a crucifix in order to know who is with him or who is against Him; knowledge of the mark of the beast could prevent us from receiving it, but without recanting any thin I have said, for 2000 years the mark of the beast could vary from place to place and time to time; always the Mark will involve state of mind and action, sometimes inaction.

Mark 3:22 KJV
And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

This is what Jesus called unforgivable blasphemy. They insulted the Spirit of Grace by calling God the Devil. It was not said out of ignorance. Their hardened hearts refused to budge (be circumcised) even after being given undeniable proof that Christ was one with the Father. Certain types of blasphemy, done in ignorance, can be forgiven, but insulting the Spirit of Grace directly, after your mind becomes aware of God, is inexcusable and unforgivable.
All unbelievers commit blasphemy because evidence of the true God is everywhere, yet their minds/hearts remain unchanged. Their secret dialogue, or subconscious, sees the true God (who is Spirit) as evil, this is why they reject Him. Their perverted and inverted minds prefer the Devil, and this is made evident in their "love" of Sin.

You might benefit from seeing past the the violence and focusing instead on the whole meaning of the cross. It's very distasteful and offensive to attribute evil meaning to something that is so important to the gospel message. Your choosing to see "nasty" when you see the cross is really just a projection of your own internal dysfunctions. Nasty is what people did to Christ, the symbolic meaning is not nasty. Do not confuse the two.

 

[sparow]

Mark 3:22 KJV
And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

This is what Jesus called unforgivable blasphemy. They insulted the Spirit of Grace by calling God the Devil. It was not said out of ignorance. Their hardened hearts refused to budge (be circumcised) even after being given undeniable proof that Christ was one with the Father. Certain types of blasphemy, done in ignorance, can be forgiven, but insulting the Spirit of Grace directly, after your mind becomes aware of God, is inexcusable and unforgivable.
All unbelievers commit blasphemy because evidence of the true God is everywhere, yet their minds/hearts remain unchanged. Their secret dialogue, or subconscious, sees the true God (who is Spirit) as evil, this is why they reject Him. Their perverted and inverted minds prefer the Devil, and this is made evident in their "love" of Sin.

You might benefit from seeing past the the violence and focusing instead on the whole meaning of the cross. It's very distasteful and offensive to attribute evil meaning to something that is so important to the gospel message. Your choosing to see "nasty" when you see the cross is really just a projection of your own internal dysfunctions. Nasty is what people did to Christ, the symbolic meaning is not nasty. Do not confuse the two.

Your words do not frighten me; I am aware of what took place on the cross; I say, "Glory to Christ, curse the cross".

Hypothetically, if a thief stole something of value and you wanted to redeem it and the price was your son's life; when the thief shoots your son, do you worship the gun?

 

[Douggg]

Maybe Douggg should have said, "We cannot agree what the mark is."

It will be the Beast that will say what his Mark is, and he has already said, "In this sign, we shall conquer." and the sign was a crucifix.

Since the crucifix is a uniquely Catholic symbol, are you claiming the Pope, papacy is the beast ?

 

[sparow]

Since the crucifix is a uniquely Catholic symbol, are you claiming the Pope, papacy is the beast ?

No; to call the Papacy THE beast would be offensive to the beast. But the Beast has a religion called Jesabell; The Papacy is not innocent. I might call the Papacy A beast, without meaning offence.


The Beast is the ruling authority at any time. The Beast is a composite beginning to become unglued. The Papacy could have been THE Beast from 490 AD up until Napoleon put the Pope in Jail; but who is the beast is subjective, and like a game of tag, the Papacy was in for 1260 years; by coincidence it was 1260 years from the first Muslim building on the Temple Mt. Until the six day war.


Was Napoleon the beast for a time; was the League of Nations the beast who received a deadly wound and the UN the Beast coming back to life; the Papacy is smaller than the UN in that the Papacy has debating rights in all areas of the UN but only voting rights in some areas. But who does the UN report to; the UN is not a democracy, or is it, what is a democracy, is the Beast a dictatorship, is the Beast a republic.