I think that Abram continued in the covenant spiritually, thereby giving his consent.Yes, the covenant of the land, or at least the actual cutting of the covenant was unilateral. Abraham was put under a deep sleep and it was Hashem who walked alone between the animal halves to seal the covenant.
All others that I'm aware of were bi-lateral, with each party having responsibilities.
I think that Abram continued in the covenant spiritually, thereby giving his consent.
Look at what was required of Abram concerning the circumcision. His household, servants and generations...Spiritually, yes; but there were no actual responsibilities for Abraham concerning this Covenant that I can see. It appears to all have been predicated on what Abraham had already done, believe, obey, up to that point. That Hashem expected him to continue to do the same is a given, but I don't think it's actually mentioned as a "responsibility" for this particular covenant. It seems really more of a Promise but Hashem put it in terms of a blood covenant and He alone cut the covenant.
Look at what was required of Abram concerning the circumcision. His household, servants and generations...
What I meant by rocket science is its a simple question, yes there are always if ands and buts... this is bottom line thinking hereNo, it isn't rocket science. But it's more than just believing, it's not passive. That faith is evidenced by obedience - to Torah, to God's eternal commands.
It really is both. Although there does seem to be a position in Mt. 5:19 where there is entrance into the Kingdom by passive faith....??? but I don't think I want to vote for that. The Spirit says, "both."
This is where I believe in a difference between 'saved' and 'salvation'. Scripture plainly says that we are SAVED by grace, through faith in Yeshua, nothing that we did to get there. However, scripture also says that our SALVATION is depended on what we do. We are judged by our works, not as to whether or not we've got Yeshua. Many who say that they believe in Yeshua will fall away. You've got to bring out works to match your words.Anyways, my two bobs put in.
What I meant by rocket science is its a simple question, yes there are always if ands and buts... this is bottom line thinking here
now we're talking
What you noted here also goes in line with the theme of how one can be saved via placing their trust in salvation--but the glory that could be theirs may be lost by what it is that they choose to do...and in that sense, salvation is lost.This is where I believe in a difference between 'saved' and 'salvation'. Scripture plainly says that we are SAVED by grace, through faith in Yeshua, nothing that we did to get there. However, scripture also says that our SALVATION is depended on what we do. We are judged by our works, not as to whether or not we've got Yeshua. Many who say that they believe in Yeshua will fall away. You've got to bring out works to match your words..
Brothers.....what we do in life echoes in eternity.
Actually, I was always under the impression that it was the Arab people who the Lord blessed in inventing Algebra..and the Arabs were around long before anything of "Moslem" came up. One good book on the issue was by Tika Downey called How the Arabs Invented Algebra: The History of the Concept of VariablesYou know "al jibra" was invented by Moslems, right?
Easy G (G²);59514776 said:Actually, I was always under the impression that it was the Arab people who the Lord blessed in inventing Algebra..and the Arabs were around long before anything of "Moslem" came up. One good book on the issue was by Tika Downey called How the Arabs Invented Algebra: The History of the Concept of Variables
Like the old idiom says, "the devil is in the details" --and be through enough things in life to see how/when missing that can lead to a world of mess. Apart from that, it's just how I'm wired...seeking truth (Proverbs 24:4-6), while having a fun time with itDetails.. details...
you do have a amazing collection of them..
salvation means something very different in Judaism and salvation by grace is meaningless to Jews.Even Jews believe they are saved by grace.
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