Which would you prefer?

[PeachyKeane]

As a Christian and a liberty loving American, I can't imagine why I would ever vote for a Democrat.

It doesn't seem very likely that I'd vote for a white nationalist, but not everything a white nationalist would do would be related to white nationalism.

For instance, while I wouldn't agree with his white nationalism, if he favored lower taxes or returning those things the Constitution says are reserved to the states to the states, those two good things wouldn't just automatically become bad things because he believes in white nationalism.

So, while it's hard for me to imagine a scenario in which I'd vote for a white nationalist, if he was right on other things, I'd have to vote for him over a Democrat.

So you should vote White-Nationalist.

 

[PeachyKeane]

I'm waiting for the question to be asked in a way which makes sense.

So you should check 'I can't decide'.

 

[Hammster]

Not at all. There is no expectation at all that you'd vote for him. I specifically said that to Hank, and this thread is open for liberals to vote on, even if they won't vote for him. The question is which do you prefer, not which will get your vote?

If you prefer post 18 gives different scenario.

But realistically, given how well McCain, Flake, Corker, and Kasich have been received by their party of late, I really don't think 'standing up for their values' is particularly a virtue in today's GOP.

If the poll wasn’t disingenuous then, a fourth option would be “Neither”. Because if a voter isn’t going to support either candidate, why would they care?

 

[PeachyKeane]

If the poll wasn’t disingenuous then, a fourth option would be “Neither”. Because if a voter isn’t going to support either candidate, why would they care?

Because the candidate might still win, and that policy may become law.

 

[Hammster]

Because the candidate might still win, and that policy may become law.

You should go back and read the OP and the question you are asking.

 

[PeachyKeane]

You should go back and read the OP and the question you are asking.

The question is pretty much what I'm trying to ask. Where do you think there's a problem?

 

[Hammster]

The question is pretty much what I'm trying to ask. Where do you think there's a problem?

The question assumes I would have a preference. Why should I prefer one policy over another?

 

[PeachyKeane]

The question assumes I would have a preference. Why should I prefer one policy over another?

Then you can choose 'I can't decide'.

 

[Hammster]

Then you can choose 'I can't decide'.

But that’s not the issue.

 

[PeachyKeane]

But that’s not the issue.

Can you choose one option over the other?

If yes, choose that option. If no, select 'I can't decide'.

Is there nuance I'm missing? If you can't decide, why doesn't 'I can't decide' cover that?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I voted democrats...

Even if one doesn't like democrats, are we really at a place in society where people honestly look at white nationalists and democrats and say "gee, shucks, I just don't know who the lesser of two evils is"?

...or that enough conservatives hate democrats so much that they'll honestly refuse to say that democrats are better than Nazis?

C'mon folks, this should've been a no-brainer. Democrats are better than White Nationalists.


I wonder if @PeachyKeane was just doing a little social experiment here to gauge how far gone some republicans are

Wanting to increase taxes, expand government programs, open borders, etc may be objectionable principles to some people (many democratic policies are at odds with my own viewpoints as well)...but, do people really think those things are on par with hating black people, pushing for a separatist culture, and promoting some conspiracy theory about how Jews run the world through corrupt banking practices?

 

[Hammster]

Can you choose one option over the other?

If yes, choose that option. If no, select 'I can't decide'.

Is there nuance I'm missing? If you can't decide, why doesn't 'I can't decide' cover that?

The question is what policy would I prefer my candidate support in order to win election. So the issue isn’t that I can’t decided. My decision would be neither (which is a viable choice), or I just won’t vote for him. Why would I vote for someone who is selling out just to get votes?

 

[Hammster]

I voted democrats...

Even if one doesn't like democrats, are we really at a place in society where people honestly look at white nationalists and democrats and say "gee, shucks, I just don't know who the lesser of two evils is"?

...or that enough conservatives hate democrats so much that they'll honestly refuse to say that democrats are better than Nazis?

C'mon folks, this should've been a no-brainer. Democrats are better than White Nationalists.


I wonder if @PeachyKeane was just doing a little social experiment here to gauge how far gone some republicans are

So you are wanting the Republican candidate to win?

 

[PeachyKeane]

The question is what policy would I prefer my candidate support in order to win election. So the issue isn’t that I can’t decided. My decision would be neither (which is a viable choice), or I just won’t vote for him. Why would I vote for someone who is selling out just to get votes?

But it's not your decision, it's the candidate's. I'm only asking which you would prefer. Even if you were unable to vote you should still have preference on the candidate's policy. One of these two policies is going to be part of the platform, and may eventually be pushed into law. Which do you prefer?

If you are unable to choose either option then you can't decide.

Honestly, I'm not sure why that's difficult.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

So you are wanting the Republican candidate to win?

Without knowing the rest of the hypothetical policies about this hypothetical candidate...if we're operating on the premise that I, initially, do want him to win, I can't think of a single policy for the White Nationalists/Nazi/KKK that I'd want my candidate supporting. If he did pander to those groups, then I'd want him to lose and change my vote to vote against him.

Basically, I think (and I could be wrong) this poll was meant to highlight a major logic flaw among a good sized portion of the GOP voter base. The fact that people are saying "I can't decide" or "I'm not going to vote on the poll at all" shows that GOP voters have been so conditioned to view "all things democrat" as an enemy, that they'll actually suggest that "Democratic policies vs. White Nationalist/KKK policies" is an ideological & ethical toss up, or at the very least, refuse to even publicly acknowledge the fact that democrats are better than Nazis out of fear of being labelled as a "RINO"

 

[Hammster]

But it's not your decision, it's the candidate's. I'm only asking which you would prefer. Even if you were unable to vote you should still have preference on the candidate's policy.

If you are unable to choose either option then you can't decide.

Honestly, I'm not sure why that's difficult.

Okay, what is my interest in the candidate’s decision? Tell me why, as a voter, I should care.

 

[Rion]

I voted democrats...

Even if one doesn't like democrats, are we really at a place in society where people honestly look at white nationalists and democrats and say "gee, shucks, I just don't know who the lesser of two evils is"?

...or that enough conservatives hate democrats so much that they'll honestly refuse to say that democrats are better than Nazis?

C'mon folks, this should've been a no-brainer. Democrats are better than White Nationalists.


I wonder if @PeachyKeane was just doing a little social experiment here to gauge how far gone some republicans are

Wanting to increase taxes, expand government programs, open borders, etc may be objectionable principles to some people (many democratic policies are at odds with my own viewpoints as well)...but, do people really think those things are on par with hating black people, pushing for a separatist culture, and promoting some conspiracy theory about how Jews run the world through corrupt banking practices?

That's not the question, although I think that's what he wants to be able to claim.

 

[PeachyKeane]

Okay, what is my interest in the candidate’s decision? Tell me why, as a voter, I should care.

Because he might get to implement that policy into law.

 

[Rion]

Without knowing the rest of the hypothetical policies about this hypothetical candidate...if we're operating on the premise that I, initially, do want him to win, I can't think of a single policy for the White Nationalists/Nazi/KKK that I'd want my candidate supporting. If he did pander to those groups, then I'd want him to lose and change my vote to vote against him.

Basically, I think (and I could be wrong) this poll was meant to highlight a major logic flaw among a good sized portion of the GOP voter base. The fact that people are saying "I can't decide" or "I'm not going to vote on the poll at all" shows that GOP voters have been so conditioned to view "all things democrat" as an enemy, that they'll actually suggest that "Democratic policies vs. White Nationalist/KKK policies" is an ideological & ethical toss up, or at the very least, refuse to even publicly acknowledge the fact that democrats are better than Nazis out of fear of being labelled as a "RINO"

This question goes all the way back to the Charlottesville incident, when many came out saying they wouldn't support Antifa just because they opposed Neo-Nazis.

 

[Hammster]

Without knowing the rest of the hypothetical policies about this hypothetical candidate...if we're operating on the premise that I, initially, do want him to win, I can't think of a single policy for the White Nationalists/Nazi/KKK that I'd want my candidate supporting. If he did pander to those groups, then I'd want him to lose and change my vote to vote against him.

Basically, I think (and I could be wrong) this poll was meant to highlight a major logic flaw among a good sized portion of the GOP voter base. The fact that people are saying "I can't decide" or "I'm not going to vote on the poll at all" shows that GOP voters have been so conditioned to view "all things democrat" as an enemy, that they'll actually suggest that "Democratic policies vs. White Nationalist/KKK policies" is an ideological & ethical toss up, or at the very least, refuse to even publicly acknowledge the fact that democrats are better than Nazis out of fear of being labelled as a "RINO"

Or, as some have pointed out, there is a flaw in the question.