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Which is easier...?

Which is easier?

  • An evolutionist to sit through Instant Creation 101

  • An instant creationist to sit through Evolution 101

  • Neither


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I think I will go with the big bang...
Then you'll have to wait.

The big bang comes at the end of the universe; not at the beginning:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 
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The link between evolution and Nazism has been well documented in the academic literature.
Why don't I see any academic references in your post, then? And why do I only see quotes from the Nazi side, and why does only one of them contain any reasoning as to this alleged link?

Those who think only one hypothesis should be legally taught in biology class are like Nazis.
What are the diverse hypotheses you think should be taught in biology class?
 
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The big bang comes at the end of the universe; not at the beginning.
There was a big bang at the start and there will be a big bang at the end and I don't think there is any doubt about that, if nothing else the sun will go nova, but I think a meteor will get us long before that.

There is no need to worry up a God to keep people in line because those tactics went out at least a hundred years ago when most people started getting educated, there were a few in the US mid west who hung out and refused to be educated but thankfully they are slowly dying out along with their crazy ideas, who ever heard of a religious person trying to make out that the God they believed in was a complete idiot? I never had until now but I suppose it takes all kinds, and where would you expect to find these people? in the USA of course, where all of the crackpot religions originate.
 
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There was a big bang at the start and there will be a big bang at the end...
No, God spoke in the beginning, and there will be a big bang at the end.
There is no need to worry up a God to keep people in line because those tactics went out at least a hundred years ago when most people started getting educated...
Hmmm -- at least a hundred years ago, and yet you still have the [St. George's] cross on your flag?
Wikipedia said:
Guernsey was permitted to use it as its state flag between 1936 and 1985.
 
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Hmmm -- at least a hundred years ago, and yet you still have the [St. George's] cross on your flag?
The St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field, was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190.

The St George's Cross has been adopted on the coat of arms and flags of several countries and cities which have St George as a patron saint, notably England, Georgia, Aragon, Greece, Genoa and Barcelona.

The cross is also found, for various reasons, on the provincial flag of Huesca, Zaragoza and Teruel as well as the municipal flag for numerous cities, including Montreal, Almería, Milan, Genoa, Padua, Zadar and Freiburg im Breisgau.

It has long since stopped being a religious symbol, what should we do? get rid of it in case some nut tries to say it's still religious? how about all of 'The Cross' pubs in the UK should they all be renamed as well? luckily for us religion in the UK has been relegated to the odd prayer at funerals and not all of them either because we have a lot of non religious funerals in the UK, most people don't want anything to do with all of that medieval nonsense.
 
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The St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field, was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190.
Okay, and...?
The St George's Cross has been adopted on the coat of arms and flags of several countries and cities which have St George as a patron saint, notably England, Georgia, Aragon, Greece, Genoa and Barcelona.

Okay, and...?
The cross is also found, for various reasons, on the provincial flag of Huesca, Zaragoza and Teruel as well as the municipal flag for numerous cities, including Montreal, Almería, Milan, Genoa, Padua, Zadar and Freiburg im Breisgau.
Okay, and...?
It has long since stopped being a religious symbol, what should we do?
Um ... is George still a saint?
luckily for us religion in the UK has been relegated to the odd prayer at funerals...
You want me to believe that, when you guys have the largest mosque in Europe?

Someone has his head buried in the sand, doesn't he?

Again, I ask you guys to stop concentrating on us and tend your own gardens.
 
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Why don't I see any academic references in your post, then?
Because I didn't include any?

Are you saying if something is not in my post that therefore it does not exist?

What are the diverse hypotheses you think should be taught in biology class?
You wouldn't know because it is illegal to teach any hypothesis other than Darwinian evolution.

"... Directed Panspermia, the theory that organisms were deliberately transmitted to the earth by intelligent beings on another planet." -- Francis H.C. Crick, molecular biologist, and Leslie E. Orgel, biologist, 1972

Crick, F.H.C., and Orgel, L.E., Directed Panspermia, Icarus, Volume 19, Pages 341-346, 1973
 
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You want me to believe that, when you guys have the largest mosque in Europe?

Ok, and?

Someone has his head buried in the sand, doesn't he?

Again, I ask you guys to stop concentrating on us and tend your own gardens.

No, if you were genuinely concerned about the spread of Islam in the UK, you lot would put a sock in it on the matter of your creationist nonsense and stop trying to muck up our education system. Hard to combat nonsense of any kind once you let enough of it in.
 
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Ok, and?



No, if you were genuinely concerned about the spread of Islam in the UK, you lot would put a sock in it on the matter of your creationist nonsense and stop trying to muck up our education system. Hard to combat nonsense of any kind once you let enough of it in.
Oh, my.

Now we're to blame for you guys putting the welcome mat out for Islams?

We're actually over there trying to convert them, while you guys are over there sneering at us.
 
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Oh, my.

Now we're to blame for you guys putting the welcome mat out for Islams?

We're actually over there trying to convert them, while you guys are over there sneering at us.

Why, if we were against creationism, would we want your kind of Christianity over here?

I'm not casting the whole responsibility at the feet of US creationists - but if you really wanted to help, keep your own nonsense on your own shores. Don't pretend like peddling your own nonsense actually helps.
 
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Why, if we were against creationism, would we want your kind of Christianity over here?
Because you're a 'seeker'? and didn't Jesus say they that seek shall find?
 
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Because you're a 'seeker'? and didn't Jesus say they that seek shall find?

I doubt Jesus would lead anyone to the kind of nonsense you lot peddle.

Like I said - keep the creationism to yourselves, if you really want to help.

To beat religious ignorance of one kind, all kinds must be held at bay.
 
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Like I said - keep the creationism to yourselves, if you really want to help.
Then don't expect me to believe you're a Christian seeker, unless you're truly seeking; and if you're truly seeking, you might want to consider others' opinions -- including mine.
 
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Then don't expect me to believe you're a Christian seeker, unless you're truly seeking; and if you're truly seeking, you might want to consider others' opinions -- including mine.

I considered creationism. I concluded what anyone with half an ounce of intelligence concludes - it's a crock from start to finish.

Seeking, like the concept of being open-minded, does not mean any half-thought up crock gets automatic consideration.

Problem?

ETA: Btw, what does not having a magnifying glass over your cross mean? That you DON'T consider other people's opinions and are set in your ways and wilfully ignorant and proud of it? You can keep it if that's the case.
 
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