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Where is your evidence creationists?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by revo74, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Astridhere

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    As far as I am concerned evolutionists have crossed the line. You lot humanized Lucy the ape with her reduced pelvis, gave her human feet, and sprooked to her humanity. Now some of your very own evolutionary researchers have asserted Lucy is not human at all with all her gorilla traits.

    Like it or lump it you evolutionists have made a mochery of science and your theory of evolution. The only thing evolving around here is your theory.

    The only thing evolutionists can do is ignore science and build myths that supports a greater myth.
    Evolutionists do not need to think at all. Evos are myth builders and story tellers supreme with a single find turning current thinking up side down.


    How stupid are you to let yourself get sucked in so badly?
     
  2. cupid dave

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    Nevertheless, Fastner ought tell the church people to re-read Genesis and see that it really does not contraict Evolution, so their interpretation is ust medieval and archaic.



    1) It is clear that the Universe DID have a beginning, 13.9 billion years ago.

    (Gen 1:1)
    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id19.html

    2) The hot spinning molten matter that was to coalesce into the planet Earth was without form:

    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id132.html

    3) There were seven long Cosmic "days" since that Big Bang, which we call the seven cosmic/geological Eras

    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/genesispic/Eraclock.jpg

    4) A Cosmic Dark Age did precede that advent of let there be light to flood the cosmo:

    (Gen 1:3-5)
    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/DarkAge2.jpg

    5) There was one ocean, once, where all the waters had been collected together

    (Gen 1:9

    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/genesispic/superocean.jpg

    6) Pangea/Rodinia did actually confirm that the dry land appeared surrounded totally by water

    (Gen 1:10
    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id123.html

    7) The Plant kingdom did establish itself before the Animal kingdom

    (Gen 1:11
    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id18.html


    8) The Sun and the Moon and all the Stars were "MADE," given authority over circadian Earth Time as soon as life appeared:

    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id126.html


    9) Man WAS the last step in the evolution of Dominant Life on earth.[/

    (Gen 1:27)

    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/genesispic/sethNoah.jpg


    10) Man HAS managed to form a mental IMAGE of "Father Nature" by understanding of His Laws and creation


    11) Gen 5:2 says god called them, the man and his wife, the "Adamites," a species:


    Gen 5:2 Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (a species), in the day when THEY were created
     
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  3. Astridhere

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    Says an agnostic fence sitter.
     
  4. Split Rock

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    Look in the mirror. I see more anger from you and some other creationists here, particularly your friend Astridhere. You guys are actually even angry that there are atheists and agnostics posting in a forum which has invited them to come post.

    Matthew 7:5: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
     
  5. Fastener

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    Then please pull it apart and tell me where it's self-contracting.
     
  6. Astridhere

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    I do not mind being hated by heathens, this is prophesied, and hence I would not have it any other way. Nor do I mind being hated by theists that cherry pick the scriptures they choose to suppport. These were also prophesied as those that follow the reasonings of man.

    Evolutionists are a lot like Doritos with pretty packaging and unhealthy contents.

    You are correct. Evos attack creationists with demonic enthusiasm.

    However what is best is seeing atheists on any Christain style forum for years, wasting their lives posting hate mail at creationists. I wonder if these tell their friends how they pass their time, if they have time for friends that is....

    I'll tell you that I love it. Nothing good comes from the ramblings and reasonings of Satan. Feeling their hatred and knowing they are so full of hate that they are prepared to spend their free time discussing something they do not believe in gives me great satisfaction.
     
  7. Fastener

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    The hatred you think is out there for you is imagined in exactly the same way your arguments against evolution are, people outside of creationism do not feel hate for creationists they feel pity, and I expect theists who are not creationists feel lucky that they were not subjected to the indoctrination creationists were, or as they say, 'their but for the grace of God go I', but if it helps you in your creationism to feel hated please go right ahead, after all as you say it was prophesied.

    I think it's fair to say that creationists have absolutely nothing that anyone else would want, in fact you can have it all.

    You can't be blamed for being a creationist but you can be blamed for remaining a creationist, the choice is yours.
     
  8. Astridhere

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    Adam is not an ape and neither were his ancestors. Nothing you have spoken to is any better than the ramblings of evolutionists. You are not a creationist. You are an evolutionist with a twist.

    I cannot take you seriously.
     
  9. Astridhere

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    And nothing you have said takes away my joy at atheists being here and wasting their lives away.

    I reckon the atheists on any Christian forum are there because they are too stupid to engage in science forums so they bring their ignorance here in the hope that no one notices just how stupid they are....

    The alternative is atheists choose to waste their time away discussing God whom they believe to be a delusion and indicates a mental health problem.....
     
  10. Fastener

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    What you really mean is his indoctrination was not as good as yours.

    Creationists are fighting an uphill battle whilst going down hill.

    A few things to ask yourself astrid, why does everyone keep telling you that creationism is bad? what's in it for them to tell you that? what do they get out of telling you that? why are the things your pastors and leaders telling you the exact opposite to what everyone else tells you?
    why do creationist parents home school their children? what are they afraid of? is creationism true or not? if it is it should be able to stand up against evolution especially if evolution is wrong, do you know any creationists who have a complete working knowledge of evolution or do most know nothing about evolution? surly AiG or others must know pretty much everything there is to know about evolution don't you think? why can't they find something that would smash evolution to bits? what are they keeping from you?

    The problem you have is if you do start asking questions you won't remain a creationist for long, so if you want to remain a creationist you might be better off not asking any questions at all, the choice is yours, through no fault of your own you are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
     
  11. Astridhere

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    The thread is about creationist evidence.

    After the falsification of 150 years of human knucklewalking ancestry, the humanizing of Lucy falsified in the eyes of some evolutionary researchers as being too derived, single fossil finds turning current thinking up side down, you evolutionists have lost any credibility or ability to deny any variety of creationist evidence.

    Biblical Young Earth Creationism


    This above is as good as any of the supports evos provide and that goes for any form of true creationism.

    The irreduceable complexity of a living organism is observed. A primitive cell is a contradiction in terms and evos have never observed one.

    The moment atheists observed this irreducibility they should of realised there must be a God and atheism as a naturalistic faith should have been discredited immediately. A recant would have been better and less humiliating for atheists than inventing non plausible myths to support the naturalistic faith.
     
  12. Fastener

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    You're wrong again astrid, Muslim extremists are feared because they will commit suicide for their religion and take lots of people with them, consequently they are watched, Christians, Jews and most other religions on the other hand won't so they are ignored and left alone to pray and worship as they please, creationists are different, they want to damage their children's minds by not teaching them about the world around them, they want their children indoctrinated to believe in Genesis which will take them back to the dark ages, they also want to take other peoples children with them, consequently they are watched.

    All weird religious offshoots are watched, cults and sects are watched, in fact anyone who is prepared to do damage to the main body of society are watched.
     
  13. JediMobius

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    I'm all about an appeal for some civility, but it seems you're confused about what hypocrisy really is. Is it anger at agnostic and atheist presence on a Christian site, or is it (the more likely option) a response to the irony of unbelievers who engage believers on a faith-based site and generally tell us how to think and behave, among other things, about our faith.
     
  14. Fastener

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    Not if you live in the USA it's not, they are not content just damaging their own children they will damage other peoples kids if they are given half a chance, and the worrying thing is they believe they're right.
     
  15. JediMobius

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    The part where you say you don't really think so, then admit that you in fact do think so. The first sentence is itself contradictory. The premise is said to be imagined, yet the conclusion confirms the premise.

    Broken-down, you stated this: "We (therefor implicitly I) do no think of you as you say, nevertheless, what you say we think of you is true (therefor, I on behalf of 'we' do think of you as you say.)"

    You then go on to detail exactly how you "look down and think yourselves smarter, more educated...than [creationists]" just as Astrid claimed. (Not that you are a number of people denoted as 'yourselves' but that you took it upon yourself to serve as a representative of the generalized group.)

    Honestly, I hadn't expected to have to spell it out. I assumed (and still do) that you would be perceptive enough to re-read your statements and notice the contradiction.
     
  16. cupid dave

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    Church people must remember that it is their scripture that tells them to preach the Father, Son,m and Holy Ghost to those who may answer back in a similar preachy way.

    How do pretend to civility and ignore this?

    Church people bang on doors and megaphone on the street, approach strangers to inquire if they have evr seen the light, etc.

    This is a saleman approach within the Institution of Religion.
    It is similar to what happens in the Institution of Law and Order when political parties sell their candidate and his ideas.
    A response is to be expected and more than tolerated.

    A response is to remember the religious people of 32AD kill the one person who actually was opposing the paradigm of the Jewish religion.

    They were interested in shuting Jesus up, not investigating his different understandings of scripture.
    PS They got real angry too.
     
  17. Astridhere

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    Darls the irreduceable complexity of a single celled organism, the huge differences in the human/chimp Y chromosome that was not predicted but a surprise requiring more mythical woffle to explain it are just a couple of reasons I assert evolutionists base their faith on delusion.

    On the other hand the irreduceable complexity of single celled life, the huge differences in the Y chromosome being 30-50% and NOT predicted, similarity except for deletions and insertions meaning stuff all similarity in reality, the refute of the cherry picking similarities choosen to exploit in ignorance a plethora of differences like genome size, genome surface structure, different hot spots, different expression of proteins, higher reasoning ability, abstract thought, sophisticated language, and evos trying to turn mankind into a walking virus are more than sufficient for me to realize that mankind is not related to any non human ape.

    Evolutionists are the only ones wearing evogoggles that look into a mirror and see an ape just because the inventors of a taxonomic sytstem puts mankind there. God endowed most of us with very high reasoning ability. You need to use it from time to time.

    Flavour of the month will never be sufficient to deny observed data. It is that simple.

    Evolutionary researchers will never let real science and observation get in the way of their stories. They just invent more, most of which are non plausible like human feet on gorilla ancestors, accelerated evolution, homoplasy, convergent evolution and 'primitive cells'.
     
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  18. AV1611VET

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    Real science probably bores them, so they come here, where they think we will 'ooh' and 'aah' at their level of knowledge.

    Instead, they are met with resistance from our faith, and it bothers them.

    That's just one of three major reasons I think they come here:

    1. God brings them here to see our faith.
    2. They come here to vent & ridicule.
    3. They come here to show off.
     
  19. cupid dave

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    Theycome here because the churches say they are right concerning scripture, and so their political views concerned with sexual indecency, sexual promiscuity, abortion, Gay marriage, preMarital sex, divorce, infidelity, public dress codes are the right thing.
     
  20. Astridhere

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    AV..well said.

    I actually cannot understand why atheists stay on Christian forums for years. However it is their right despite my questioning their intentions and reasonings

    It is fun though and evolutionists definitely add some gusto to a Christian forum.

    Take this thread for example. Evos will continue to use flavour of the month on the back of a previous falsification to ridicule creationist evidence and there is no stopping them.
     
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