Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?

[Jim47]

Who created/formed Jeremiah in his mother's belly?

He was born a sinner, no?

Adam was not created a sinner. That came after the fall into sin. And all those born after Adam inherited that sinful nature.


Ro 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned—
Ro 5:13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
Ro 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
Ro 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Ro 5:16 Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
Ro 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Ro 5:18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
Ro 5:19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

 

[Criada]

Who did create the Aids virus?

 

[stumpjumper]

Adam was not created a sinner. That came after the fall into sin. And all those born after Adam inherited that sinful nature.

And we are created and preserved by God.

And we are sinners.

Hence, God does indeed create sinners. A statement which you said you would shudder about but it is true.

That, STILL, does not mean that God creates us TO BE sinners or that God wills or authors our sin, but the statement that "God creates sinners" is valid unless you feel that someone else created or formed Jeremiah in his mothers womb.

 

[stumpjumper]

Adam was not created a sinner.

He was created with the ability to sin.

And, additionally, unless one argues for Open View Theism, God had full foreknowledge that Adam would fall into sin and, hence, all the other humans that God created and preserved from the dawn of creation until now would be born sinners and sin themselves.

 

[Jim47]

And we are created and preserved by God.

And we are sinners.

Hence, God does indeed create sinners. A statement which you said you would shudder about but it is true.

That, STILL, does not mean that God creates us TO BE sinners or that God wills or authors our sin, but the statement that "God creates sinners" is valid unless you feel that someone else created or formed Jeremiah in his mothers womb.

Its quite obvious that you don't believe scripture, or you just don't read whats been given you. You have been told enough times, so I see little sence in telling you again.

 

[stumpjumper]

Its quite obvious that you don't believe scripture, or you just don't read whats been given you. You have been told enough times, so I see little sence in telling you again.

Who created/formed Jeremiah who was born a sinner?

The Book of the Prophet Jeremiah, Chapter 1, Verse 5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


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Who doesn't believe scripture?

 

[CaDan]

Its quite obvious that you don't believe scripture, or you just don't read whats been given you. You have been told enough times, so I see little sence in telling you again.

Knock it off.

These accusations that someone does not read scripture are tiresome.

 

[stumpjumper]

Jim

When I stated that God creates sinners you wrote:

I would shudder in my shoes if I were you. You have accused God of sin, and yet you should know quite clearly that God does not sin.

Lets see some scripture to back up your claim.

I expect you to either post proof that God only creates non-sinners (or sinless people) or retract your false accusation.

 

[catlover]

By reading the bible

So God has the Aryan agenda Adolph Hitler had? Strange...I never read that in The Bible...

 

[Floatingaxe]

Who doesn't believe scripture?

Any and all who choose to overlook where God considers the sin of homosexuality to be abominable, and inserts one's own self-righteous assertion to the opposite.

 

[Crazy Liz]

I think you must have missed my post.

People WERE made in the image of God..6000 years ago at the creation of the world. But now we are no longer so. (Gen 5:3: When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth.)

Who created Seth?

 

[Tissue]

A number of you may have found the previous post devoid of any and all meaning. Yet, I have been conducting an in-depth study of this particular specimen, and have provided a translation of this post that is as accurate as I can manage, and it follows:

'Any and all who choose to overlook my interpretation of Scripture are not following God' -FloatingAxe

Of course, this is merely an interpretation, and I am but human, and fallible. Yet, I think this might be close.

EDIT: Bah Liz, you posted before me. =(

 

[Crazy Liz]

Any and all who choose to overlook where God considers the sin of homosexuality to be abominable, and inserts one's own self-righteous assertion to the opposite.

That's not what this thread is about. Please read the OP. " Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?"

 

[BreadAlone]

That's not what this thread is about. Please read the OP. " Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?"

Firstly, FA was responding to a question, and secondly it's not as far off topic as some in this thread have been, so lay off.

 

[CaDan]

That's not what this thread is about. Please read the OP. " Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?"

Precisely.

That is the question presented. The issue of the sinfulness of certain acts is not part of that argument.

Shall we try an experiment?

Substitute the word "Republican" for the word "homosexual" in the posts in this thread. The logic of the argument is the same. Do you think it is a good argument after that substitution?

Or, how about this experiment: Substitute the word "Lutheran" for the word "homosexual" in the posts in this thread. Again, the argument is the same.

One further experiment: Substitute the words "Christian Forums Staff" for the word "homosexual" in the posts in this thread. The argument remains the same. Do you find the argument convincing?

 

[stumpjumper]

Substitute "celibate Catholic Priest" as well as some have argued that God only created man and woman for mutual sexual unions...

 

[BreadAlone]

This is not for the discussion of flaws in Roman Catholicism.

Substitute "celibate Catholic Priest" as well as some have argued that God only created man and woman for mutual sexual unions...

 

[stumpjumper]

How about widowed, divorced, or unmarried people, then?

If man and woman were only created for union with each other, are they uncreated or not a part of God's creation as well?

 

[CaDan]

Why aren't we all "uniting" right now instead of posting here?

(My apologies to those who have the skill of being fruitful and multiplying while posting. While I admire your mad skillz, I do have to say it seems a little weird)

 

[Angel4Truth]

How about widowed, divorced, or unmarried people, then?

If man and woman were only created for union with each other, are they uncreated or not a part of God's creation as well?

A wombs purpose is the same if it doesnt work. A legs purpose doesnt change if it is lame or non existant for whatever reason. The purpose of marriage doesnt change because someone doesnt choose to engage in it or get divorced or widowed.