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Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?

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Genesis 1:19-31

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creeps upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.


Genesis 2:18-25 tells us the details of how He created every beast in the field, every fowl in the air, how He brought them to Adam to name, how Adam came to realize that each of the types of creations God made, there seemed to be a pair. One slightly different than the other, but a match just the same, but there was no such help meet for him. God saw that Adam was discouraged not having a match like the other creations, and the Word continues to tell us the details of the creation of Eve, whom God made for Adam from Adam's Rib.


And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


In the beginning of chapter 2, the very first verse (after chapter 1 told of all the creatures God made before going into the details in chapter 2 of how God made them) it says:

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


So, where is it recorded in the Biblical creation account, these variations (some claim are from God), of the perfect creation God made in His own image (man) and the complimentary creation God made for man (woman), whom God said was good in His sight, commanded to be fruitful and multiply and have dominion over everything in and on the earth?

God was sure to have the scribes even tell about every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth and every little bird in the sky. Why is there no mention of these variations of mankind
who seemingly have the same anatomy as the original male and female in the account of
creation?


Also, why is it that zero (<----keyword) homosexuals can follow the command to be fruitful and
multiply within their own "preferred" union? But otherwise, if following the model we find in Genesis

most certainly can?

Logically we would have to conclude that either that it a pretty cruel joke on God's part
(which knowing the character of God, I am personally sure that isn't the case)
OR......some folks are just not being honest and realistic with themselves or
anyone else they try to convince.

 
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IamRedeemed said:
Also, why is it that zero (<----keyword) homosexuals can follow the command to be fruitful and multiply within their own "preferred" union? But otherwise, if following the model we find in Genesis
IamRedeemed said:
most certainly can?


The Keyword there is ZERO.

I thought if I put the keyword in red, onemessiah, with an arrow and all,
it would help folks to follow. Guess not.....but being you claim you don't believe
in God at all, it would probably be logical as well as respectful for you to bow out
of this thread altogether. Thanks in advance.


The question in the OP still remains.

Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?

Genesis 1:19-31

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creeps upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

Genesis 2:18-25 tells us the details of how He created every beast in the field, every fowl in the air, how He brought them to Adam to name, how Adam came to realize that each of the types of creations God made, there seemed to be a pair. One slightly different than the other, but a match just the same, but there was no such help meet for him. God saw that Adam was discouraged not having a match like the other creations, and the Word continues to tell us the details of the creation of Eve, whom God made for Adam from Adam's Rib.


And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


In the beginning of chapter 2, the very first verse (after chapter 1 told of all the creatures God made before going into the details in chapter 2 of how God made them) it says:

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


So, where is it recorded in the Biblical creation account, these variations (some claim are from God), of the perfect creation God made in His own image (man) and the complimentary creation God made for man (woman), whom God said was good in His sight, commanded to be fruitful and multiply and have dominion over everything in and on the earth?

God was sure to have the scribes even tell about every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth and every little bird in the sky. Why is there no mention of these variations of mankind
who seemingly have the same anatomy as the original male and female in the account of
creation?


Also, why is it that zero (<----keyword) homosexuals can follow the command to be fruitful and
multiply within their own "preferred" union? But otherwise, if following the model we find in Genesis

most certainly can?

Logically we would have to conclude that either that it a pretty cruel joke on God's part
(which knowing the character of God, I am personally sure that isn't the case)
OR......some folks are just not being honest and realistic with themselves or
anyone else they try to convince.
 
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Dehumanizing people is so wrong-God didn't create homosexuals? So I guess they are beneath God and a "freak" of nature...nice...why Christian forums allows such nonsense and UNChristian propoganda is beyond me.


You bring up a good point.

God made us all - gay and straight people, in the image of God.

How dare anyone try to dehumanize us? To do so is to trash God's work in creation.
 
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Well, let's see what we have here. We have IAR posting scripture and asking a legitimate but very loaded question. And as of yet NO ONE has addressed the question asked in the OP. Everyone has gone off topic and engaged in making personal observations about IAR, saying she's judgmental and being UNChristian. But from where I'm sitting it's her opponents who are avoiding the question she raised in the OP, and making personal, judgment-based comments about her. There's definitely unChristian and unloving behavior going on in this thread. Too bad it's not coming from the OP. You guys are reading judgment into her post. She quoted scripture and asked a question. Can anyone answer the question? Yes or no?
 
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http://scripturerefinersfire.blogspot.com/2008/01/historical-christianity-can-not-be.html

[1.3] Whereas "Gay Christians" condone loving monogamous gay-relationships as a blessing from God. God, the perfect author of life and of love, gave them the ability to reproduce but not with one another. We do not believe our God is a bungling-inept-creator that couldn't complete His work. Instead we believe gay-sex was never God's intention for humanity.

Gay-sex is man's creation, not God's creation, unless you believe God made a mistake, and He is the imperfect author.
 
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[1.3] Whereas "Gay Christians" condone loving monogamous gay-relationships as a blessing from God. God, the perfect author of life and of love, gave them the ability to reproduce but not with one another. We do not believe our God is a bungling-inept-creator that couldn't complete His work. Instead we believe gay-sex was never God's intention for humanity.

Gay-sex is man's creation, not God's creation, unless you believe God made a mistake, and He is the imperfect author.

Wrong, we are not mistakes.
 
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Well, let's see what we have here. We have IAR posting scripture and asking a legitimate but very loaded question. And as of yet NO ONE has addressed the question asked in the OP. Everyone has gone off topic and engaged in making personal observations about IAR, saying she's judgmental and being UNChristian. But from where I'm sitting it's her opponents who are avoiding the question she raised in the OP, and making personal, judgment-based comments about her. There's definitely unChristian and unloving behavior going on in this thread. Too bad it's not coming from the OP. You guys are reading judgment into her post. She quoted scripture and asked a question. Can anyone answer the question? Yes or no?

OK you want us to use the Bible to refute IAR's rediculous OP, fine. It's right there in the very verses you use in your signature: 2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

 
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No, Ollie. I don't want you to use the whole Bible to refute her claim. I want you to answer her question as per the OP using only the scriptures she has quoted in the OP. Can you find a scripture that points to God creating homosexuals in the verses provided from Genesis?
 
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It's right after the part about the creation of the x86 instruction set and Legos. Oh, and patriotism, love, music, dreams, money and similar intangibles.


By the by, it is pretty standard Christian dogma that everything was created by God. Most arguments to the contrary flow from varieties of Valentinian Gnosticism.
 
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No, Ollie. I don't want you to use the whole Bible to refute her claim. I want you to answer her question as per the OP using only the scriptures she has quoted in the OP. Can you find a scripture that points to God creating homosexuals in the verses provided from Genesis?

I can't find model rocket engines in there, either. Nor BSD.
 
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Well, let's see what we have here. We have IAR posting scripture and asking a legitimate but very loaded question. And as of yet NO ONE has addressed the question asked in the OP. Everyone has gone off topic and engaged in making personal observations about IAR, saying she's judgmental and being UNChristian. But from where I'm sitting it's her opponents who are avoiding the question she raised in the OP, and making personal, judgment-based comments about her. There's definitely unChristian and unloving behavior going on in this thread. Too bad it's not coming from the OP. You guys are reading judgment into her post. She quoted scripture and asked a question. Can anyone answer the question? Yes or no?

I did. The very first post.
Secondly, I'm not in the list of "everyone" who went off topic and insulted her.
Thirdly, it is a stupid question. The basis and implications of it are at best, faulty and misleading.

I propose that everyone else is avoiding my observation that God is quite the prankster. Can you logically refute that, or can you just spew rhetoric about what you believe about god and what you think you know about him?
 
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No, Ollie. I don't want you to use the whole Bible to refute her claim. I want you to answer her question as per the OP using only the scriptures she has quoted in the OP. Can you find a scripture that points to God creating homosexuals in the verses provided from Genesis?

Does it matter? Can you point to where god created toffee? If not, are you able to draw any inferences about the morality of toffee?
 
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Whether or not God is a prankster or created toffee or anything else is outside of the question raised in the OP and are a derailment of this thread. Using the scriptures provided can you answer the question? A simple yes or no will do.
 
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