Where is hell in a round earth?

[Kenneth Redden]

Are the moon and Sun flat also? The writers of the bible did not write in English and often interpreters misunderstand what others are expressing.

Yes, however; it is very possible that the earth, up until the third day, may have actually been flat. There were no stars, why would there need to be planets? Genesis 1:16

 

[Strong in Him]

I like many others believe that the world is flat, there is insurmountable evidence to believe so, but one question I have always asked the marble earth believers is "where would hell be?"

Hell is being without God.

I'd be more than happy to explain why the marble earth "theory" is incorrect and how the bible proves it.

Ah, so is this a genuine question about the nature of hell; if it is a place and where that place might be - or an excuse to promote your flat earth beliefs?

 

[lee-johnson]

Its my belief that hell exists on earth (and heaven, to an extent). It is all around us, tempting us to sin (even commanding it to some). The spiritual realm and our reality have in some way been intertwined and through unholy mechanisms been allowed to command. It's my belief that God shall save us from this breach of law and use damnation to his advantage, to turn our upside down state into a fair and balanced one for both principal sides (Christ & Lucifer, the two opposing spirit brothers).

 

[Imagican]

Not only is earth flat, it is fixed immovable so can not move according to scripture. Which means no spinning top revolving at 1000 mph and no going around the sun at 66,000 mph.

Earth is described to us as being placed on pillars, with a foundation, and has a cornerstone.

1 Samuel 2:8
He raises up the poor out of the dust and lifts up the needy from the ash heap, to make them sit with nobles and inherit the throne of glory. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and He has set the world upon them.

Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place, and the pillars of it tremble;

Psalm 75:3
When the earth totters, and all the inhabitants of it, it is I Who will poise and keep steady its pillars. Selah [pause, and calmly think of that]!

Psalm 104:5
You laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be moved forever.

1 Chronicles 16:30
Tremble and reverently fear before Him, all the earth’s peoples; the world also shall be established, so it cannot be moved.

Proverbs 8:29
When He gave to the sea its limit and His decree that the waters should not transgress [across the boundaries set by] His command, when He appointed the foundations of the earth—

Isaiah 24:18
And he who flees at the noise of the terror will fall into the pit; and he who comes up out of the pit will be caught in the snare. For the windows of the heavens are opened [as in the deluge], and the foundations of the earth tremble and shake.

Job 38:6
Upon what were the foundations of it fastened, or who laid its cornerstone,

And about that circle thing, the world is as God drew a circle on the face of the waters of the deep, then God stretches out the firmament over top of the flat circle as like a dome. The firmament contains the stars, moon and sun. No planets are mentioned, planets are really just lights in the firmament as are them all, revolving around the earth fixed in place in the firmament.
Proverbs 8:27
When He prepared the heavens, I [Wisdom] was there; when He drew a circle upon the face of the deep and stretched out the firmament over it,

You are confusing the rotation of the Earth with God informing us that 'we cannot move the earth' so far it being exactly where God placed it.

It is too funny. Those that cater to this 'flat earth' have cell phones that depend upon satellites circling a ROUND earth. They use their 'GPS' 'global positioning satellite' technology that depends upon, get it?, SATELLITES.

Google Earth clearly shows that the Earth is ROUND. All the pictures from space 'looking back' show the Earth in all it's SPHERICAL glory. And once again, if the Earth is FLAT, where are it's edges?

The Bible does NOT teach us that they Earth is FLAT. The land 'appears' to be flat due to the enormous SIZE of the planet. But the Bible does NOT teach that it is FLAT.

It does teach that it's ROUND though. A 'circle' is ROUND.

Every aspect of 'world travel' is based upon the Earth being 'round'. Time itself is based on the rotation period of the planet.

To deny that the Earth is spherical is to deny ALL the evidence and simply 'make up' something DIFFERENT. And trying to use the Bible to prove a 'flat Earth' is IMPOSSIBLE.

Blessings,

MEC

 

[Imagican]

It's really funny to the point of being 'sad'. For to place one's faith in a 'flat Earth' one is forced to deny the 'space station' orbiting the Earth right this second with MEN aboard.

They are forced to deny that men have visited the moon. And then this one: I have personally owned telescopes that were powerful enough to see MANY of the neighboring planets. They are ALL 'spherical'.

And we SEE the stars MOVING at night. We see the planets constantly MOVING around the sun. This isn't conspiracy. These are all things we can WITNESS with our own eyes.

I live in Orlando. In the years that I've lived here, I have physically WATCHED hundreds of launches from the space coast, (it's only about 35 miles from Orlando). I witnessed the Space Shuttle Columbia's fateful mission with my OWN EYES.

The IDEA that all that pertains to a 'spherical Earth' is nothing but a massive 'plan' to DUPE the 'people of Earth'? Only someone living in self delusion would even contemplate such a 'theory'. To perpetuate such a 'hoax' would take MORE money than that which exists in the ENTIRE WORLD.

But then there are those out in the woods right this moment LOOKING for Bigfoot. Many that believe that aliens have abducted humans and done sexual experiments with them. Elvis is still alive and the moon is made of 'cheese'.

So the idea that there are people that would choose to believe the Earth 'flat'? Not surprising at all. I once met a guy that thought he was a 'funky chicken' and walked around like one. For a while. Eventually he was 'locked up' to keep him from hurting himself or others.

Blessings,

MEC

 

[daleksteve]

Yes, however; it is very possible that the earth, up until the third day, may have actually been flat. There were no stars, why would there need to be planets? Genesis 1:16

There would have been planets its the gravity that forms them, pulls in all the dust and particles.Another reason why they are also round and not flat.

 

[daleksteve]

It's really funny to the point of being 'sad'. For to place one's faith in a 'flat Earth' one is forced to deny the 'space station' orbiting the Earth right this second with MEN aboard.

They are forced to deny that men have visited the moon. And then this one: I have personally owned telescopes that were powerful enough to see MANY of the neighboring planets. They are ALL 'spherical'.

And we SEE the stars MOVING at night. We see the planets constantly MOVING around the sun. This isn't conspiracy. These are all things we can WITNESS with our own eyes.

I live in Orlando. In the years that I've lived here, I have physically WATCHED hundreds of launches from the space coast, (it's only about 35 miles from Orlando). I witnessed the Space Shuttle Columbia's fateful mission with my OWN EYES.

The IDEA that all that pertains to a 'spherical Earth' is nothing but a massive 'plan' to DUPE the 'people of Earth'? Only someone living in self delusion would even contemplate such a 'theory'. To perpetuate such a 'hoax' would take MORE money than that which exists in the ENTIRE WORLD.

But then there are those out in the woods right this moment LOOKING for Bigfoot. Many that believe that aliens have abducted humans and done sexual experiments with them. Elvis is still alive and the moon is made of 'cheese'.

So the idea that there are people that would choose to believe the Earth 'flat'? Not surprising at all. I once met a guy that thought he was a 'funky chicken' and walked around like one. For a while. Eventually he was 'locked up' to keep him from hurting himself or others.

Blessings,

MEC

It' so sad that some christians still believe in a flat earth and a young earth. None of it is actually scriptural apart from certain verses in the bible taken out of context to fit a flawed view that all science wrong.

I have also come across christian's who think illnesses such as epilepsy are caused by demonic possession . No matter how much you explain the science to them out comes a particular verse of the bible to show how the doctors and science are all wrong.

 

[Der Alte]

I wonder how flat earthers explain the seasons?

 

[RDKirk]

The earth is only 6,000 km deep and there is absolutely no way for hell to exist in that space. It would need to be much bigger.

Why? Actually I believe hell is another dimension of reality completely, but why would the interior of the earth not be room enough?

How many spirits can God fit on the head of a pin? As many as He wants to.

 

[daleksteve]

Why? Actually I believe hell is another dimension of reality completely, but why would the interior of the earth not be room enough?

How many spirits can God fit on the head of a pin? As many as He wants to.

The earth is full of red hot molten magma.

Not much room for Satan to chain up all these wicked souls. Not to mention rather to hot for his minions.

 

[daleksteve]

I wonder how flat earthers explain the seasons?

I am sure they will come up with some nonsense.

 

[RDKirk]

The earth is full of red hot molten magma.

Not much room for Satan to chain up all these wicked souls. Not to mention rather to hot for his minions.

A. Satan does not chain up anyone. Satan is as much a prisoner as everyone else--perhaps more so, in that the prison was built specifically to imprison him.

B. How much physical space does a spirit occupy? Which empty pocket of space in your body does the Holy Spirit occupy?

Then Jesus demanded [of the demon], "What is your name?" And he replied, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us inside this man." -- Mark 5

When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it roams through waterless places looking for rest but doesn’t find any. Then it says, ‘I’ll go back to my house that I came from.’ And returning, it finds the house vacant, swept, and put in order.

Then off it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and settle down there. -- Matthew 12

How much physical space in this men did those demons occupy?

So enough absurdities about the physical space needed for demons. Scripture already sweeps that silliness away.

 

[JellyQuest]

And there you go anyway.

I am going to jump in here as it seems a fun topic .
why would Size have any bearing on hell ?
what size is a spirit ? it has no body but is the essence of existence . life is to know god , death being to be estranged from him(not know him ) .But what "Size' is a spirit ??

in the natural world it would take rather a large space to fit some 100billion "bodies " writhing in their own isolated torment .
but in the spiritual realm what would this come onto account at all?
perhap 100 billion spirits can fit in a thimble .

 

[JellyQuest]

A. Satan does not chain up anyone. Satan is as much a prisoner as everyone else--perhaps more so, in that the prison was built specifically to imprison him.

B. How much physical space does a spirit occupy? Which empty pocket of space in your body does the Holy Spirit occupy?

Then Jesus demanded [of the demon], "What is your name?" And he replied, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us inside this man." -- Mark 5

When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it roams through waterless places looking for rest but doesn’t find any. Then it says, ‘I’ll go back to my house that I came from.’ And returning, it finds the house vacant, swept, and put in order.

Then off it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and settle down there. -- Matthew 12

How much physical space in this men did those demons occupy?

So enough absurdities about the physical space needed for demons. Scripture already sweeps that silliness away.

we had a "snap" moment on the size of a spirit question i see

 

[mmksparbud]

I am going to jump in here as it seems a fun topic .
why would Size have any bearing on hell ?
what size is a spirit ? it has no body but is the essence of existence . life is to know god , death being to be estranged from him(not know him ) .But what "Size' is a spirit ??

in the natural world it would take rather a large space to fit some 100billion "bodies " writhing in their own isolated torment .
but in the spiritual realm what would this come onto account at all?
perhap 100 billion spirits can fit in a thimble .

Question then arises---the dead are all resurrected, the wicked unto hell and the saved to God. Both are bodily resurrected, the saved are changed and given immortal bodies, but bodies none the less. The lost are resurrected, nothing says they are given immortality, only the saved are given immortality. Both have bodies that occupy space, especially the wicked. Billions of lost, all with real bodies that occupy space?

 

[RDKirk]

Question then arises---the dead are all resurrected, the wicked unto hell and the saved to God. Both are bodily resurrected, the saved are changed and given immortal bodies, but bodies none the less. The lost are resurrected, nothing says they are given immortality, only the saved are given immortality. Both have bodies that occupy space, especially the wicked. Billions of lost, all with real bodies that occupy space?

You forgot about the part where all creation is dissolved and recreated. All creation would include the bodies of those unsaved--which you admit are not given immortality. Those bodies are consumed.

 

[daleksteve]

Question then arises---the dead are all resurrected, the wicked unto hell and the saved to God. Both are bodily resurrected, the saved are changed and given immortal bodies, but bodies none the less. The lost are resurrected, nothing says they are given immortality, only the saved are given immortality. Both have bodies that occupy space, especially the wicked. Billions of lost, all with real bodies that occupy space?

The resurrected won't have a physical body. Why would you need one in Heaven or Hell?

 

[daleksteve]

A. Satan does not chain up anyone. Satan is as much a prisoner as everyone else--perhaps more so, in that the prison was built specifically to imprison him.

B. How much physical space does a spirit occupy? Which empty pocket of space in your body does the Holy Spirit occupy?

Then Jesus demanded [of the demon], "What is your name?" And he replied, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us inside this man." -- Mark 5

When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it roams through waterless places looking for rest but doesn’t find any. Then it says, ‘I’ll go back to my house that I came from.’ And returning, it finds the house vacant, swept, and put in order.

Then off it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and settle down there. -- Matthew 12

How much physical space in this men did those demons occupy?

So enough absurdities about the physical space needed for demons. Scripture already sweeps that silliness away.

The only silliness on here is that the earth is flat and hell is in the centre of it.

 

[JellyQuest]

So, photoshop then?

all this proves is that they use fisheye lenses ...

warning warning -joke alert !

 

[JellyQuest]

The resurrected won't have a physical body. Why would you need one in Heaven or Hell?

well actually,i understand the lost remain disembodied spirits in hell . the resurrected in Christ are clothed in a new and incorruptible immortal house (body ) which cannot not die nor age with corruption .