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[Delphiki]

Works is not the issue.

Oh, you must have bolded the word "works" by accident in your post.

He that loves family more than God if one did that, would be putting something before God. Job. Money. Electronics, science...anything.

But only because there is no god to put anywhere on a list of priorities. You can't put something before god if you don't believe in one in the first place. I don't love anything more than God, nor do I love anything less than God. I'm an agnostic.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Oh, you must have bolded the word "works" by accident in your post.

Try replacing it with a type of cheese and see if his argument changes -- betcha it won't.

 

[Rilke's Granddaughter]

Works is not the issue.





He that loves family more than God if one did that, would be putting something before God. Job. Money. Electronics, science...anything.

Ex 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

As for the test of a man or spirit, it is bible. Of course we can test leaders, spirits teachings, or anything else. Of course what we give our time and devotion to can be a god that is before God, if it comes before God.

But if there is no God, then we're not putting anything before God.

Logic, dad. Use it. It's your friend.

 

[Upisoft]

No, in the beginning Jesus was there. God is a trinity. Besides, how would I know who else may or may not have been there? In Prov 8 some gal talks of being there as a spectator. Why guess at these things??

You said you see no gaps, but apparently "how would I know who else may or may not have been there", i.e. knowledge gap on your side.

You said you believe it literally, but no, you somehow think the chapter describes Jesus there.

In English now..?

The language does not matter. God said two things but did only 1 thing. He said "image" and "likeness", and He only did "image" part. It is there, I'm not making it up. It is there in Hebrew even.

This is it!?? This was your point you were building up towards? That a word 'could be' translated a certain way? Wow.

How could the words be translated was extra. The point is that God said 2 and did 1.

Says...who? You really think He was shell shocked?

I'm not going to interpret the scripture, as you want me to do. Reading it literally is enough. The fact is that God did less than He said He will do. The fact is in Genesis 1:26-27 unless you decide to interpret it the way it suits you.

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Your last post did nothing to the main point. You only attacked the extra information given and shift out of literal reading of the text. You also confirmed there are knowledge gaps in Genesis 1. And you said there are none.

 

[JustMeSee]

What you all fail to understand is that it is foolish to research anything. The only thing that needs to be known is Goddidit.

 

[AV1611VET]

What you all fail to understand is that it is foolish to research anything.

Wrong.

What they fail to understand is that God did it, therefore get busy researching it.

The only thing that needs to be known is Goddidit.

Wrong again.

God lambasted Job for not having a proper understanding of creation.

Read His questions to Job, virtually every question put to him is about creation.

What needs to be know is that "God did it" is the beginning of proper research.

Proverbs 1:7 ¶ The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

(Notice that atheists will despise this wisdom and instruction.)

 

[Upisoft]

Proverbs 1:7 ¶ The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

(Notice that atheists will despise this wisdom and instruction.)

It is said "fools" and you read "atheists". Learn to read.

 

[knowledgeIsPower]

Wrong.

What they fail to understand is that God did it, therefore get busy researching it.

...

What needs to be know is that "God did it" is the beginning of proper research.

Which god though?

 

[3sigma]

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

It is interesting how often Christianity uses fear as an incentive to believe.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is said "fools" and you read "atheists". Learn to read.

Back atcha.

Psalm 14:1a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which god though?

The One that makes you an agnostic.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is interesting how often Christianity uses fear as an incentive to believe.

What definition of fear are you using?

 

[Upisoft]

Back atcha.

Psalm 14:1a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Sorry, only some atheists say so. Others just don't say "There is God".

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, only some atheists say so. Others just don't say "There is God".

How do you know? you're an agnostic.

 

[Upisoft]

How do you know? you're an agnostic.

You just don't know what an agnostic may know. Also it is evident that you don't know what an atheist is. Anything else you don't know about?

 

[dad]

Oh, you must have bolded the word "works" by accident in your post.

Why by accident?

But only because there is no god to put anywhere on a list of priorities. You can't put something before god if you don't believe in one in the first place. I don't love anything more than God, nor do I love anything less than God. I'm an agnostic.

Apparently God thinks men ought to know better.

 

[dad]

Try replacing it with a type of cheese and see if his argument changes -- betcha it won't.

Try replacing cheese with a type of cheese and see if his cheese changes -- betcha some cheese it won't. Fun.

 

[3sigma]

What definition of fear are you using?

I’m using the word fear to mean an unpleasant often strong emotion caused by anticipation or awareness of danger; or anxious concern. Religions cannot appeal to people’s reason because they aren’t based on sound evidence or sound arguments so they have to appeal to people’s emotions, particularly the strong emotions such as fear, love, hatred and anger.

Christianity and Christians use fear and anxiety as incentives to comply with their teachings. I wonder how many Christian parents use the fear of hell to promote obedience in their children? How many times do preachers teach about the fires of hell or, without a hint of irony, the Christian God’s eternal love for its flock to promote compliance with the church’s teachings? Those who believe the unsubstantiated nonsense peddled by religions allow their emotions to override their reason.

 

[dad]

But if there is no God, then we're not putting anything before God.

Logic, dad. Use it. It's your friend.

And if there is no sun, why use sunscreen?

 

[dad]

You said you see no gaps, but apparently "how would I know who else may or may not have been there", i.e. knowledge gap on your side.

Who said men are all knowing? Humble down.

You said you believe it literally, but no, you somehow think the chapter describes Jesus there.

One should take the book as a whole. Better to be honest.

The language does not matter. God said two things but did only 1 thing. He said "image" and "likeness", and He only did "image" part. It is there, I'm not making it up. It is there in Hebrew even.

Prove it?

How could the words be translated was extra. The point is that God said 2 and did 1.

Says....who??

You also confirmed there are knowledge gaps in Genesis 1. And you said there are none.

Generally when I have heard 'gap' it refers to a time gap in creation week allowing for old ages and evolution. Since you are playing with words here, and want gap to mean anything less than being all knowing...then man is full of gaps. God never meant to provide all knowing knowledge in the verse you are harping on.