Where gravity and forces come from..!

[dad]

There's little point arguing with you dad, I don't think you even know why you believe what you do. You're so set in your ways that you mentally cannot overcome the hurdles you've created for yourself.

Pot..kettle..

It defeats me how a firm belief in world-dominating lizard people would be classed as a psychotic episode, while belief in a universe-dominating spiteful/benevolent creator being outside our physical existence is actually applauded by large sections of the population.

That depends on who is doing the classing, and on what basis.

 

[dad]

Don't you see? Imagination fantasy land is every bit as real and important as the real world!

Only in science.

 

[snackster29]

lol i laughed when i came across this thread. Who goes on a christian forum to try to figure out what gravity is LOL.
What makes it funnier is when people try to "explain" science with the bible.
Did you honestly think by creating this thread you were going to get a satisfactory answer?

 

[dad]

lol i laughed when i came across this thread. Who goes on a christian forum to try to figure out what gravity is LOL.
What makes it funnier is when people try to "explain" science with the bible.
Did you honestly think by creating this thread you were going to get a satisfactory answer?

It isn't me trying to figure out what the fundamental forces are. Pay attention.

 

[snackster29]

it was at first but this even more ridiculous than how it started, now your talking about god being asexual lol. besides why is string theory wrong? im interested because im learning about string theory and i want to know why i should stop.

 

[dad]

it was at first but this even more ridiculous than how it started, now your talking about god being asexual lol. besides why is string theory wrong? im interested because im learning about string theory and i want to know why i should stop.

Simple.

"String theory is a developing theory in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity.[1] It is a contender for the theory of everything (TOE),.." wiki

It tries to explain everything without taking anything into consideration but the physical laws.

Not only that, but rather than getting at the root of the matter, they invent other dimensions that are under our rules as well!

" String theories also require the existence of several extra, unobservable, dimensions to the universe, in addition to the usual four spacetime dimensions." same link

 

[Nathan Poe]

Simple.

"String theory is a developing theory in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity.[1] It is a contender for the theory of everything (TOE),.." wiki

It tries to explain everything without taking anything into consideration but the physical laws.

Well, why don't you invent some spiritual laws, and we'll taken them into consideration as well.

Remember, dad, we need actual laws; not just "everything was vaguely different back then!"

Not only that, but rather than getting at the root of the matter, they invent other dimensions that are under our rules as well!

As opposed to you, who invents dimensions which are only under your rule.

 

[dad]

Well, why don't you invent some spiritual laws, and we'll taken them into consideration as well.

Remember, dad, we need actual laws; not just "everything was vaguely different back then!"



As opposed to you, who invents dimensions which are only under your rule.

Invented string dimensions aside, it is best to stick to what is known. I think you have invented enough. The bible is better.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Invented string dimensions aside, it is best to stick to what is known. I think you have invented enough. The bible is better.

I thought you were against human inventions?

 

[Delphiki]

Invented string dimensions aside, it is best to stick to what is known. I think you have invented enough. The bible is better.

like how you invented the changing law of physics law? XD

 

[jcslao]

hola! i have been lurking this side of the forum for some time and i just can not for the life of me understand how user "dad" and "av1611vet" continue to push their own interpretations of the scriptures as facts rather than taking the solid evidence in front of them *coughs science coughs*. Science is true and its not out to disprove God, so what's the problem?

i believe in God, i put my trust and faith in Jesus. I trust science and believe in the theory of evolution. The Bible is NOT a science book. God did not mean for the Bible to be a science book but creationists did however.

what if gravity and forces always existed? whats the big deal?

sorry if i am being overly aggressive but i'm beginning to think this is a repeated cycle over and over again. and its like the majority of the members on the forums are repeating themselves.

 

[dad]

hola! i have been lurking this side of the forum for some time and i just can not for the life of me understand how user "dad" and "av1611vet" continue to push their own interpretations of the scriptures as facts rather than taking the solid evidence in front of them *coughs science coughs*. Science is true and its not out to disprove God, so what's the problem?

Can you show me my interpretation of scripture that you claim is wrong? There is no evidence for a same state past. Get over it.

My problem with so called science, is that it is a bunch of satanic dreams, that oppose God and creation with no basis. Sorry you bought into it.

i believe in God, i put my trust and faith in Jesus. I trust science and believe in the theory of evolution.

So you trust Jesus made all things, and without Him was not made anything that was made. Good. You believe in evolution too...OK. Define "evolution"?

The Bible is NOT a science book. God did not mean for the Bible to be a science book but creationists did however.

It is a knowledge book. Including knowledge of things science does not know.

what if gravity and forces always existed? whats the big deal?

You tell me? The forces we know did not exist in creation or the flood, far as I can tell from the bible.

sorry if i am being overly aggressive but i'm beginning to think this is a repeated cycle over and over again. and its like the majority of the members on the forums are repeating themselves.

Too bad they haven't said anything in all the repeating.

 

[AV1611VET]

hola!

Hola, señor -- es bien ver usted --

i have been lurking this side of the forum for some time and i just can not for the life of me understand how user "dad" and "av1611vet" continue to push their own interpretations of the scriptures as facts rather than taking the solid evidence in front of them *coughs science coughs*.

Going no higher than science will cause major problems with the Bible.

Science would not allow Jesus to walk on water, heal the sick or raise the dead, would it?

Somewhere along the way, you have to tell science to stand aside, so a Bible truth can prevail.

Science is true and its not out to disprove God, so what's the problem?

A problem occurs when someone tries to wield science like and axe and say this or that could not have happened as it was recorded in the Bible.

i believe in God, i put my trust and faith in Jesus.

Then at some point, you have had to suspend science to do it.

I trust science and believe in the theory of evolution.

I trust [true] science, and do not believe in the theory of evolution.

The Bible is NOT a science book.

That is correct.

Trying to use the Bible as a science book is like trying to use Bill Gate's diary as a computer manual.

God did not mean for the Bible to be a science book but creationists did however.

I'll take your word for it.

what if gravity and forces always existed?

They have -- and they work well, but when they interfere with God, God gives them a time-out for awhile.

whats the big deal?

The big deal is that science can become someone's religion -- it's called scientism.

sorry if i am being overly aggressive but i'm beginning to think this is a repeated cycle over and over again.

As it should be -- we don't change with the weather.

and its like the majority of the members on the forums are repeating themselves.

Bien!

 

[JustMeSee]

Invented string dimensions aside, it is best to stick to what is known. I think you have invented enough. The bible is better.

I think this sums things up quite well.

On one hand you have people trying to understand our universe through science.

On the other hand you have people who believe we know enough and shouldn't invent and research. God and The Bible are the only answers we need.

 

[jcslao]

Can you show me my interpretation of scripture that you claim is wrong? There is no evidence for a same state past. Get over it.

you use creationism, do you not? you consider genesis as something literal, correct?

My problem with so called science, is that it is a bunch of satanic dreams, that oppose God and creation with no basis. Sorry you bought into it.

science is satanic? what? are you serious? how can science be satanic and we are studying the earth and our surroundings? we observed and come up with conclusions. bing bang, evolution are all theories but those aspects can be tested with science.

supernatural cannot be tested or observed. only us christians can refer to unbelievers our experiences, which again they will not relate to.

So you trust Jesus made all things, and without Him was not made anything that was made. Good. You believe in evolution too...OK. Define "evolution"?

yes he did! what if Jesus used evolution? we do not know that? only literalists who use genesis as a justification of our existence. evolution is basically natural selection (iirc?) we see it all over.

It is a knowledge book. Including knowledge of things science does not know.

exactly! The bible however is not something that can be tested brother in Christ! The Bible is words of wisdom for us Christians to live by. God left scientists for observing the world around us. we can see natural selection as been stated numerous times. creationists just think the aspect of coming from "soup" or "bacteria" or an "ape" is silly.

You tell me? The forces we know did not exist in creation or the flood, far as I can tell from the bible.

your proof is the Bible??!?!? what kills me is that, what makes Christians look REAL silly is when we always use the Bible to justify common sense stuff.

Too bad they haven't said anything in all the repeating.

wow, so sad. I see what they are saying and i agree with the majority of them. I use to study creationism and totally stepped away considering how it was created to be an defense to what we call and rely on "science".

nice to meet you by the way "dad"

 

[dad]

I think this sums things up quite well.

On one hand you have people trying to understand our universe through science.

On the other hand you have people who believe we know enough and shouldn't invent and research. God and The Bible are the only answers we need.

Nonsense. Pretending men are gods, and can solve all their problems without God, and that there is nothing more than the physical is not the way to go. The real problem is sin. That has affected what we can see of the universe, and how it is. Until you discover that, you are wasting money and time and spinning your wheels.

 

[dad]

nice to meet you by the way "dad"

Thanks.

you use creationism, do you not? you consider genesis as something literal, correct?

What is "creationism" define. Of course the bible is real.

science is satanic? what? are you serious? how can science be satanic and we are studying the earth and our surroundings? we observed and come up with conclusions. bing bang, evolution are all theories but those aspects can be tested with science.

Because it focuses away from the spiritual and God, and the bible, and zooms in only on man and his physical world.

supernatural cannot be tested or observed. only us christians can refer to unbelievers our experiences, which again they will not relate to.

Jesus rose from the dead in an eternal body. I'd say that was a great test.

yes he did! what if Jesus used evolution? we do not know that? only literalists who use genesis as a justification of our existence. evolution is basically natural selection (iirc?) we see it all over.

He did use evolving. Created kinds could do that. Lots of adapting and changing went on. If you mean that God did not make man as the bible says, and beast, no, that is not 'for sale' to cater to science.

exactly! The bible however is not something that can be tested brother in Christ! The Bible is words of wisdom for us Christians to live by. God left scientists for observing the world around us.

Nonsense. Science has nothing to do with God...ask them!

we can see natural selection as been stated numerous times. creationists just think the aspect of coming from "soup" or "bacteria" or an "ape" is silly.

Indeed. Worse than silly. The theory of evolution is possessed. Natural selction only went on as long as this nature! How long was that? Prove it.

your proof is the Bible??!?!? what kills me is that, what makes Christians look REAL silly is when we always use the Bible to justify common sense stuff.

What gets me is when ant God anti bible nonsense with no basis is put on a pedestal, and it's feet kissed, as the epitome of 'common sense'.

wow, so sad. I see what they are saying and i agree with the majority of them.

So tell us, what are they saying, precisely?

I use to study creationism and totally stepped away considering how it was created to be an defense to what we call and rely on "science".

Well, maybe you mean flood geology. I stepped away from that too.

 

[JustMeSee]

Nonsense. Pretending men are gods, and can solve all their problems without God, and that there is nothing more than the physical is not the way to go. The real problem is sin. That has affected what we can see of the universe, and how it is. Until you discover that, you are wasting money and time and spinning your wheels.

Why do you pretend to know the limits of mankind?

I did not write that men thought they were gods. Science is not against God, it is simply not attributing everything to God.

 

[jcslao]

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[dad]

Why do you pretend to know the limits of mankind?

Why do you pretend man has no known limits?? Absurd. Same with science.

I did not write that men thought they were gods.

No, that is what the devil tells man. 'Did God say such and such?...He did not reaaallllly mean it...you are little gods too, remember? Eve ate the fruit and it made her a little god...'

Science is not against God, it is simply not attributing everything to God.

It actually attributes precisely NOTHING to God. I wasn't born yesterday.