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Genesis requires miracles. The sun wasn't created until the 4th day. What was holding the earth in place and how was there an evening and a morning?Poofing a Y chromosome into an X is an unscriptural miracle. As I said, if you can imagine a miracle to cover every problem with you beliefs, than any story is equally believable.
Humans are not the only creatures that have nefesh/soul. Review Gen 1:20, 21, 24,30.They were the first two given living souls by God.
Humans are not the only creatures that have nefesh/soul. Review Gen 1:20, 21, 24,30.
nephesh chayyah - creation.com
Genesis requires miracles.
Wow. You really need to take a harder look at Genesis - and Scripture as a whole.
This looks like dishonest debate, accusing me of the very thing I repudiate.
True, but perhaps you're going to the opposite extreme - denying miracles altogether?More to the point, if you can call in a miracle every time there's a problem with your interpretation, then anyone's story is equally likely.
I don't think you understand what I mean by Greek PHILOSOPHY. You're confusing it with Greek religion.Greeks saw gods as beings like us, just far more powerful. But they had limitations, unlike the God of the Bible. I believe the latter. You believe the former.
I don't think you understand what I mean by Greek PHILOSOPHY. You're confusing it with Greek religion.
No limitations? Here's a simple question asked on the other thread: how many languages does an infinite God know?
If you try to tell me, "an infinite amount"...
And that's only one of several objections raised against infinitude on the other thread.
If you're not referring to a finite God, you're not making any sense.
True, but perhaps you're going to the opposite extreme - denying miracles altogether?
Any creative act is miraculous by definition since it is something other than Darwinism.
Yes, we creationists do believe in creations/miracles.
That doesn't automatically invalidate our interpretations.
A Philosophy 101 course might help you out here.So did the Greeks. You're still stuck in the Greek philosophy of limited gods, rather than the Biblical notion of an omnipotent God.
Incoherent. Next you'll tell me that an immutable God became man - oh but that's just a "sophomoric" objection, right?All of them.
But if some things are literal and some are not, how do we know which to take literally?Are you going to pretend that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally?
A Philosophy 101 course might help you out here.
No limitations? Here's a simple question asked on the other thread: how many languages does an infinite God know?
Incoherent.
Next you'll tell me that an immutable God became man
Like I said, it's your prerogative to love contradictions and incoherence.
You can't seem to differentiate between Greek philosophy and Greek religion.Perhaps you were asleep in class? Did you really not know that Greek philosophers, when they thought of gods at all, imagined them to be limited and creatures themselves?
You're really going to try to "explain" to me how an immutable God became man? You do realize, don't you, that even the mainstream theologians who support this claim admit it's humanly incomprehensible? They hold to it only because their faulty assumptions force them to do so. But listen to what they say about it. Let's start with Norm Geisler:If Jesus has a human nature, and if change is proper to humanity rather than divinity, then we can attribute change to Jesus’s person according to his human nature. Since Christ’s humanity has no identity or existence apart from the eternal Son uniting it to himself, we attribute the “becoming” of his humanity to the personal subject of the incarnation, the divine Son. So, the divine Son “becomes” not in his divine nature, but according to the coming-into-existence of his human nature.
Did the Incarnation Change God? Pondering the Great Mystery of Christmas
I see. Your opinion is the only one that matters. I'm surprised the rest of us are allowed to post on this forum.And it's your prerogative to project your stuff on the rest of us. Nothing I can do about it.
By "creative act" I was referring to The Engineer hand-crafting species without the aid of Darwinism. Or in biblical terminology, "God is the potter, you are the clay."So Lamarckism is "miraculous?" You think art is miraculous? I don't think you've given this enough thought.
I see. Your opinion is the only one that matters.
By "creative act" I was referring to The Engineer hand-crafting species without the aid of Darwinism.
OR, if you hold to the traditional (incoherent) concept of creation ex nihilo
I do not deny Jesus ever lived, died, and rose again, but there are problems with some of the events in His life, if we were to take it all historically. In Matthew, Jesus was born under the reign of Herod (c. 4 BC). In Luke, He was born under Quirinius' jurisdiction (c. 6 AD), who, by the way, replaced Herod's son Archelaus over the Judean province. This is an inconsistency that shows that these events must be interpreted differently.Again you are right.
Jesus never lived, never died or rose again, paid for our sins .
The cities mention in the OT do not exist, there is no Jerusalem, Jericho etc etc, Egypt, Hitties, Babyleonans etc all do not exist they are the imaginary products of varrious scribes.
Please do your research again and you will find that the bible is a very accurate history book.
And speaking of Babylonians, who is Darius the Mede (Danial 5:31)? According to the book of Daniel, he reigned after Belshazzar (v. 32), but we know that he fell before Cyrus the Great in 539 BC. He is a central figure in the events of Daniel's life, but historically, he does not exist. We do not even have records of the existence of Daniel, who was an official in the kingdom.Again you are right.
Jesus never lived, never died or rose again, paid for our sins .
The cities mention in the OT do not exist, there is no Jerusalem, Jericho etc etc, Egypt, Hitties, Babyleonans etc all do not exist they are the imaginary products of varrious scribes.
Please do your research again and you will find that the bible is a very accurate history book.
If you Google “Jesus under Herod and Quirinius” you can find various solutions to this problem. I just don’t want to derail my own thread with this topic. Can you please start another?I do not deny Jesus ever lived, died, and rose again, but there are problems with some of the events in His life, if we were to take it all historically. In Matthew, Jesus was born under the reign of Herod (c. 4 BC). In Luke, He was born under Quirinius' jurisdiction (c. 6 AD), who, by the way, replaced Herod's son Archelaus over the Judean province. This is an inconsistency that shows that these events must be interpreted differently.
Luke records that a census took place that covered the whole empire (Luke 2:1), but no such thing ever happened. He must have mistaken the census Quirinius issued for the Judean province when he annexed it to Syria after he took office.
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