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But, the man who the Spirit has convicted, can understand and choose to believe or not.“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV 1900)
The point is that, while one can never accept without the Holy Spirit moving them to cooperate, they can still refuse. Grace is resistible.Why does one accept or reject this free gift of grace?
we make choices all the time but we seem to accept this without the essential crises. Regardless you have just swept scripture under a rug trying some sort of philosophical misdirection. You may be happy to do this, but scripture still says hearing with faith is a pre-salvation moment where the spirit is not yet upon us. I get this isn't the point you want to make but you can't just cover it up and pretend it's not there nor can you insert what isn't there, these are the type of motives that build heretical beliefs.Why do all hear the same gospel where some simply believe without choosing to? Or others hear it as law and turn it into works, while others reject it?
You cannot choose Christ from the flesh. Only an idol you name Jesus.we make choices all the time but we seem to accept this without the essential crises. Regardless you have just swept scripture under a rug trying some sort of philosophical misdirection. You may be happy to do this, but scripture still says hearing with faith is a pre-salvation moment where the spirit is not yet upon us. I get this isn't the point you want to make but you can't just cover it up and pretend it's not there nor can you insert what isn't there, these are the type of motives that build heretical beliefs.
You cannot doubt what you experience. You cannot doubt Christ if you are born again anymore than you can doubt you are sitting at your computer.But, the man who the Spirit has convicted, can understand and choose to believe or not.
Just to get you thinking about that statement, reconcile that with John 6:44:But, the man who the Spirit has convicted, can understand and choose to believe or not.
Yes! He tells us that so we'll hopefully gain the wisdom to opt to be with, rather than apart from, Him."Without Me you can do nothing" John 15:5
Jesus is the vine. We are only the branches.
it's just a pov without scripture.You cannot choose Christ from the flesh. Only an idol you name Jesus.
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19–21 (KJV 1900)it's just a pov without scripture.
And yet it's obvious that believers don't always abide in Christ and live in the Spirit-they still sin at times, which only goes to show that the option, of departing from Christ, is always there, and this is why we're exhorted and warned and admonished not to live by the flesh.“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19–21 (KJV 1900)
“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (KJV 1900)And yet it's obvious that believers don't always abide in Christ and live in the Spirit-they still sin at times, which only goes to show that the option, of departing from Christ, is always there, and this is why we're exhorted and warned and admonished not to live by the flesh.
Our responsibility does not mean God is not enabling us to be responsibleYou are switching to believers now, not how to be saved. Different topic.
But, since you brought it up, he also says you have to remain in the vine or you will be cut off, as opposed to once saved, always saved.
Man is lost; he cannot possibly find God even if he wanted to. So while the Holy Spirit finds us and enables us to believe, He still nonetheless never forces us to believe. We can, IOW, still say "no" at any point along the way even if we cannot say "yes" to begin with without Him. Faith is both a gift-and a choice-the choice to accept that gift.
So the HS chooses those for eternal life which implicitly means he also chooses those for the antithesis of eternal life. The gospel then seems rather arbitrary and it turns from the good news to the lucky news as salvation is no more than a lottery (at least from our perspective)
Paul tells us in Galations we receive the HS by hearing with faith. So this informs us prior to the receiving the HS there is a response that is pre-HS.
Enabling for sure --in fact, compelling us.Our responsibility does not mean God is not enabling us to be responsible
Yes, that's the ideal, not always the reality-and no way to predict with 100% that one will persevere in it to the end anyway.“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (KJV 1900)
Persevering imo just refers to not losing the first love. I don’t believe that anyone but satan is a taskmaster.Yes, that's the ideal, not always the reality-and no way to predict with 100% that one will persevere in it to the end anyway.
Calling Arminians partakers of idolatry is a heavy claim. This verse contributes nothing to support that. All it shows is idolatry is wrong but why is arminianism the bad guy? Can't I just say Calvinism is idolatry and show the same verse? See it doesn't work that way either.“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19–21 (KJV 1900)
We can talk about Greek if you want to but you haven't really brought up any useful information to be specific with.I have seen a book on Prepositions in the Greek NT as translated into 7 languages. It can open your eyes to see what "by" can mean to our minds
Persevering imo just refers to not losing the first love. I don’t believe that anyone but satan is a taskmaster.
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