When is it gonna be enough?

[HisPrincess710]

Arm the teachers who are there to protect them.

What if one of those teachers decides to fire on their students?

And who cares about PP? One life lost is one too many, no matter where it's from.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Except guns kill faster than arrows and swords and knives.

It doesn't matter Almost anything can kill and almost NOTHING does unless acted upon.

 

[Southernscotty]

But that isn't happening. So, now what do we do?

Get your kids heads out of animation, like their phone and videeo games and teach them real world values and bust their butts when they need it.

 

[Der Alte]

Yet
What about unarmed school kids?

Once again you ignore my post, do not address anything I said and come back with a meaningless left wing screed. How does this comment relate to anything I posted?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Do you hear yourself? Or are you simply closing your ears to the fact that these parents are mourning the loss of their children, parents who could not be there to protect them?

no, he is not. He is saying praise God we have the right to self defense, and when you figure the percentage of guns used for harm in this country compared to the number of guns OR gun owners it is a TINY percentage.

 

[Steve Petersen]

All of us, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Atheists, whatever! We all need to start sending demands our police and politicians and gun manufacturers, "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!"

Have you got a solution or just a gripe?

 

[dogs4thewin]

How are all these nut jobs (or rather people with evil hearts) able to get these guns? Are they just lying around waiting to be picked up? Just upholding the second amendment is not going to make these shootings go away. I agree, we need better law enforcement and mental health facilities. But we also need to keep out of these people's hands weapons that can be easily converted into semi-automatics.

Guns are never more important than people.

The people who mean harm will get guns one way or another. We have background checks and SEVERAL groups of people who are not allowed to own firearms already.

 

[Aldebaran]

What if one of those teachers decides to fire on their students?

And who cares about PP? One life lost is one too many, no matter where it's from.

If that's what the teacher is like, then you probably don't want them teaching your kids whether they are armed or not.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes, the 1950s were so wonderful. What with the KKK, rigid segregation, racism, stigma against single mothers and gays. Violent crimes against black people, pretty much anyone who wasn't white. Ah, those were the days.

You sure don't seem to think the current time period is so great either. But the truth is that there will always be sin in this world until there isn't.

 

[dogs4thewin]

My family doesn't own any guns.

and that is your family's choice, but to say that folks that follow the law should not be able to have guns to defend THEIR families and/or hunt if they want to because a small percentage of people misuse guns is like saying that no one should be able to drive because people drive impaired.

 

[GUANO]

It will never be enough. This has gone on since before the beginning of civilization and it will continue; with or without guns.

 

[dogs4thewin]

What if there wasn't a gun nearby?

If there was no gun nearby and someone meant harm they would use whatever they could find.

 

[Aldebaran]

I refuse to be associated with bigots like you. You clearly do not have love for God if you cannot love the marginalized and the sinners. Whom Jesus hung out with by the way. He had strong words for people like you.

What did he say that makes him sound like a bigot? Be specific.

 

[HisPrincess710]

What did he say that makes him sound like a bigot? Be specific.

He says single mothers and gays deserve a stigma as they're bad for society. He has no idea what pain these people deal with. He has no idea what it means to love the marginalized and abused and "sinners."

 

[dogs4thewin]

Clearly I'm not gonna be able to get to people like you who are willing to sacrifice children and lives on the altar of guns and eschatology.

If there are guns in the hands of the good guys maybe FEWER children would die. In fact, that has been shown.

 

[HisPrincess710]

If there are guns in the hands of the good guys maybe FEWER children would die. In fact, that has been shown.

Except the good guys apparently are not guarding their weapons well enough.

 

[dogs4thewin]

So we're just supposed to sit by and do nothing?

Anyone who can and feels comfort doing so should arm up if you asks me that is in fact something.

 

[Aldebaran]

He says single mothers and gays deserve a stigma as they're bad for society. He has no idea what pain these people deal with. He has no idea what it means to love the marginalized and abused and "sinners."

They may need our love, but that doesn't mean that their lifestyle isn't bad for society. Kids raised in single parent homes don't have the same support that ones in a traditional household with a mother and father have. I know this from experience. As for the gays, that's a subject of another thread, and there have been numerous threads on that subject.

 

[Steve Petersen]

The United States has the highest homicide rate of all industrialized nations. The United States has least strict gun control laws of all industrialized nations. Louisiana has the most permissive gun control laws in the USA and the highest homicide rate of any state.

Britain banned semi-auto guns. Australia banned semi-auto guns.

Germany requires gun permits for all gun owners. No permit, no legal right to own a gun. They do background checks on everyone requesting a gun permit and have a one year waiting period.

The US should have universal background checks, gun permits and ban semi-automatic guns.

People who own guns are more likely to die of gunshot wounds than people who do not own guns.

Two thirds of gun death in the US are suicides.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I really am appalled by the lack of compassion and humanity on these forums. I'm glad I left the Christian label. I haven't left God, but I'm not going to be associated with such callous, heartless, cruel people who stand for the very things Jesus opposed.

You impose heavy burdens on people yet refuse to lift a finger to help them.

Actually, no we do not lack compasstion we just realize that sometimes in this world violence is needed.