What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

[SeraphimSarov]

Catholic food is by far the best, Sicilian, Italian, French, Spanish, Brazilian, Mexican...

Mi scusi, but I am both Italian and Sicilian, AND I am Orthodox... you do not get to claim those for Catholicism.

 

[mont974x4]

Wasn't it in Antioch where they were first called Christians? Therefore, the first church was the church of Antioch.....see, we all lose.

 

[SeraphimSarov]

Wasn't it in Antioch where they were first called Christians? Therefore, the first church was the church of Antioch.....see, we all lose.

My parish happens to be Antiochian Orthodox.

I win after all.

 

[mont974x4]

lol whew I'm glad that's settled, altho I think Christ might beg to differ, as He actually started His congregation before they were called Christians.


now if we could just get those rascally anabaptists and baptists to come together.

 

[mont974x4]

My parish happens to be Antiochian Orthodox.

I win after all.

BTW which antioch? and are you sure it's the right one. LOL

 

[MezzaMorta]

Comfict we may not have had, but conflict we have had aplenty, from the sack of Constantinople to the forced conversion of Serbs to Catholicism in Croatia or the Inuit in Alaska.

Well the crusades were asked for by the authorities in Constantinople, as well as the crusades are why the west did not fall to Islam, so the Catholic sack of Constantinople is well bellow the price of what the Catholics did for the east.

As too Serbia, the crimes it has committed on the nations of it's region far outweigh anything done by Croatia.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Comfict we may not have had, but conflict we have had aplenty, from the sack of Constantinople to the forced conversion of Serbs to Catholicism in Croatia or the Inuit in Alaska.

How was it forced upon another?

Did they put ashes on their head or what? How did that go down? Knives to throats? How does one force a conversion?

 

[MezzaMorta]

Mi scusi, but I am both Italian and Sicilian, AND I am Orthodox... you do not get to claim those for Catholicism.

Trust me, Sicily is by far majority Catholic, to the extent that non-catholic is maybe 5% of the entire population.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Better ye did they throw holy water at them? lol

Hows that work?

 

[SeraphimSarov]

BTW which antioch? and are you sure it's the right one. LOL

Well, it's not Antioch, IL....

 

[SeraphimSarov]

Trust me, Sicily is by far majority Catholic, to the extent that non-catholic is maybe 5% of the entire population.

Dude... I just told you that I'm Sicilian... I know that.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Catholic food is by far the best, Sicilian, Italian, French, Spanish, Brazilian, Mexican... can't say Russian food is that great, some Greek food is alright, but it is mostly just rip offs of Turkish and Middle Eastern food.

What else is Orthodox, like Bulgarian and Serbian or something, don't even know what their food would be.

Catholic food? You talking the bread and the wine or ravolis here? I never heard Italian food as being Catholic lol

This is where the Lord interupts and says I have meat to eat you know not of (heavenly, cellestrial, not of this world) earthly food.

 

[prodromos]

How was it forced upon another?

Did they put ashes on their head or what? How did that go down? Knives to throats? How does one force a conversion?

Knives to throats. Many refused to convert and became martyrs for the Orthodox faith.

 

[leothelioness]

Although we share 1000 years, we have also been estranged for another 1000. We are very different. You are closer to Catholicism, as a Protestant, than is the Orthodox Church. Your separation is not as wide.

I'm not so sure about that. History seems to tell a different story.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Knives to throats. Many refused to convert and became martyrs for the Orthodox faith.

I would have to say that sounds rather unothodox (I think). I suppose thats a new spin on "Rise Peter KILL or convert?

What did they want them to do to convert? Was it something like..."Just come to my church and sit with us or we will kill you type thing"?

So they died "for the orthodox faith"

Whats Orthodox mean? I think I asked this before (have an idea) but I sorta forget what the word means (Im not too brlliant that way) lol

Would it be sorta subjective (the word "orthodox")? As it might be with "Catholic" which might mean what? "universal" (as it pertains to the church)? but instead when they use it, what it really means those of "us" (our doctrines, popes etc). So... even though they be separated from you guys (who were before them) called the "Othodox" they (who dont call themselves "Othodox") in name would not consider themselves "unorthodox" (in practice) even though they separated from "the Orthodox"? And just as you are not called Catholic ( implying universal) regarding the church makes you no less Catholic in the more truer sense of the word (rather then the brand of church) manufactured after their particular practices (popes) etc...? BREATHE...

Im trying too hard to figure this stuff out, I just know it LOL

Both names sorta have a double meaning dont they? Meaning both and/or neither depending on something else (Im probrobly not aware of) right?

Im getting brain zaps lol

Peace

Fireinfolding

 

[nestoj]

Well the crusades were asked for by the authorities in Constantinople, as well as the crusades are why the west did not fall to Islam, so the Catholic sack of Constantinople is well bellow the price of what the Catholics did for the east.

As too Serbia, the crimes it has committed on the nations of it's region far outweigh anything done by Croatia.

No.

But we committed crimes to so it’s pointless (and trust me it will be even more ugly if I bring numbers) to argue who did more evil. In all this, only one thing is good on our side: Serbs never baptized muslims or RC’s while holding them at gunpoint.

nestoj
God helps

 

[nestoj]

I would have to say that sounds rather unothodox (I think). I suppose thats a new spin on "Rise Peter KILL or convert?

What did they want them to do to convert? Was it something like..."Just come to my church and sit with us or we will kill you type thing"?

So they died "for the orthodox faith"

Whats Orthodox mean? I think I asked this before (have an idea) but I sorta forget what the word means (Im not too brlliant that way) lol

Would it be sorta subjective (the word "orthodox")? As it might be with "Catholic" which might mean what? "universal" (as it pertains to the church)? but instead when they use it, what it really means those of "us" (our doctrines, popes etc). So... even though they be separated from you guys (who were before them) called the "Othodox" they (who dont call themselves "Othodox") in name would not consider themselves "unorthodox" (in practice) even though they separated from "the Orthodox"? And just as you are not called Catholic ( implying universal) regarding the church makes you no less Catholic in the more truer sense of the word (rather then the brand of church) manufactured after their particular practices (popes) etc...? BREATHE...

Im trying too hard to figure this stuff out, I just know it LOL

Both names sorta have a double meaning dont they? Meaning both and/or neither depending on something else (Im probrobly not aware of) right?

Im getting brain zaps lol

Peace

Fireinfolding

Yup, it's a complicated thing.

Take it this way, we’ve drifted apart enough that Orthodox find more similarity between Protestants and RC’s then Orthodox and RC’s. While outer expression of faith might be very similar with RC and EO, we find an inner essence of the faith to be drastically different (not of the same faith). On the other side, we see that RC’s and Protestants, while they are not of the same faith too, are much closer in this inner essence of the faith.

nestoj
God helps

 

[Sothron]

Hi. I would like to ask what it would take for the Orthodoxs to once again come under the Reign of the Pope? Thanks.

That would be hard to do considering the Church was and still is never under the reign of the bishop of Rome.

 

[Sothron]

Well the crusades were asked for by the authorities in Constantinople, as well as the crusades are why the west did not fall to Islam, so the Catholic sack of Constantinople is well bellow the price of what the Catholics did for the east.

As too Serbia, the crimes it has committed on the nations of it's region far outweigh anything done by Croatia.

Wrong on all counts. The Byzantine Empire stopped Islam from spreading into Europe after their rapid expansion in the 7th and 8th centuries. You can thank the Orthodox for that.

The Byzantine Emperors asked the Pope for help in a small amount of knights more or less as mercenaries to help fight the Muslm Turks not to ask them to betray, rape and murder the most Christian city in the world in Constantinople. The actual Crusades did jack squat historically speaking to stop Islam as it had already reached its furtherest expansions with the exception of the eventual fall of Constantinople.

 

[Asinner]

I'm not so sure about that. History seems to tell a different story.

East and West "officially" went their separate ways in 1054 AD, whereas John Calvin denied the papacy in the 1530's and Calvinism was born. You are much closer to Rome than the Orthodox.

Love,
Christina