What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

[Sothron]

I saw no videos, I saw it in person.


As is said, tit for tat, it's been back and forth for many many years.

Clarification is needed. You actually witnessed Orthodox priests blessing a genocide killing or something?

 

[mont974x4]

No, I saw in person the mass graves and other evidence. I was privy, due to the nature of my job, to information on key leaders in the region and their activities.

Again, I stress that it was not limited to the serbs.

 

[Sothron]

Seeing a mass grave is not the same as watching Orthodox priests supposedly blessing or condoning it. The Serbian Orthodox Church always decried it.

 

[MezzaMorta]

[FONT=&quot] The vast majority of atrocities committed in Kosovo was by Albanians.

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[FONT=&quot] The Albanian majority, who sought peaceful independence, who were then oppressed by Serbian military and Para-military forces, who though ethnic cleansing and genocide waged a campaign of mass murder against the ethnic Albanian majority. [/FONT]
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The total number of bodies which have been found (including Serbians, and Albanians killed by NATO bombs and people who died of natural causes) number far less than one thousand!

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[FONT=&quot] Given the tens, if not hundreds of thousands Serbians killed in Bosnia, the world could not take chances. [/FONT]

 

[Oblio]

Given the tens, if not hundreds of thousands Serbians killed in Bosnia, the world [Clinton] could not take chances.

... on having the world focused on the Blue Dress another week. He had to do something by God !

 

[Uphill Battle]

... on having the world focused on the Blue Dress another week. He had to do something by God !

IIRC the day after that scandal broke, he launched a missle attack against some terrorist cell. I forget the details.

 

[Thekla]

Long(years) before the NATO attack:

Bishop Artemije (of Prizen) made 5 visits to DC asking us not to support Milosevic. He also visited several European countries asking the same.

Patriarch Pavle, who lead several peace and anti-government protests, was denied his request to be present at Rambouillet.

We might have listened ...

 

[Sothron]

IIRC the day after that scandal broke, he launched a missle attack against some terrorist cell. I forget the details.

Yes, we bombed an aspirin factory I believe in Somalia where we kiilled innocent people because they "thought" it was terrorist associated just to try and deflect media attention from Monica's stained dress.

I believe Wag the Dog was based purely on this action.

 

[MezzaMorta]

IIRC the day after that scandal broke, he launched a missle attack against some terrorist cell. I forget the details.

He launched an attack against an Al’Queda training camp in Afghanistan, where Osama Bin Laden was staying. The missiles hit the camp less than an hour after Osama Bin Laden had left for Pakistan.

Clinton was within an hour of killing the “mastermind” of 9/11, before it occurred and all the Republican congress did was claim that he was trying to deflect attention away from his sex scandal.

Now they claim that he did nothing about terrorism in his presidency.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

So what is the final word on this? Would an Orthodox ever join the Roman church while it has a pope reigning over it?

 

[Asinner]

So what is the final word on this? Would an Orthodox ever join the Roman church while it has a pope reigning over it?

No.

 

[prodromos]

No, I saw in person the mass graves and other evidence. I was privy, due to the nature of my job, to information on key leaders in the region and their activities.

How many bodies were actually found? Were you still there when they determined the racial identity of the interned? Were you still there when the cause of death was determined?

The final death toll in Kosovo? It's sinking fast

 

[prodromos]

The Albanian majority, who sought peaceful independence, who were then oppressed by Serbian military and Para-military forces, who though ethnic cleansing and genocide waged a campaign of mass murder against the ethnic Albanian majority.

The Serbs Were Not Oppressing the Kosovo Albanians... Quite the opposite

I was living in Greece when NATO started bombing Serbia. We had first hand reports coming in both before, during and after. We also got to see what was being presented to the rest of the world through the Clinton News Network and we were appalled at the outright falsehoods being presented on CNN.

A good friend's father who lived in the UK was an outspoken critic of Serbia until he sat and watched the news when he was visiting her in Greece. He was shattered by what he learned when he realised how much he had been misled, just how far what he had been led to believe was from the truth of the situation.

I do not blame you for believing as you do because you are not at fault. You have been misled by a deliberate effort to demonise the Serbs and present the Albanians as the injured party. Are you aware that up until NATOs involvement in Kosovo, the KLA was classed by the USA as a terrorist organisation?

 

[prodromos]

Given the tens, if not hundreds of thousands Serbians killed in Bosnia, the world could not take chances.

Given the number of Serbians killed by Catholics in Croatia, do you believe NATO should have started bombing the Vatican?

 

[mont974x4]

You were in Greece? You weren't one of the punks throwing rocks at me were you?

 

[prodromos]

You were in Greece? You weren't one of the punks throwing rocks at me were you?

no, not one of them. Were you in KFOR? Were you part of the group that asked for directions to Kosovo and got sent to Bulgaria instead (much cleverer response than throwing rocks )

 

[mont974x4]

Nope, I was raised by a Marine pilot/sniper...getting lost is not one of our problems. LOL


Yes, I was in KFOR.

 

[MezzaMorta]

Given the number of Serbians killed by Catholics in Croatia, do you believe NATO should have started bombing the Vatican?

Serbia perpetrated the largest genocide in Europe since the Nazis in Bosnia. It was the Serbs who perpetrated war crimes against Catholic Croats, Muslim Bosneks and Serbian moderates alike.

 

[MezzaMorta]

The Serbs Were Not Oppressing the Kosovo Albanians... Quite the opposite

I was living in Greece when NATO started bombing Serbia. We had first hand reports coming in both before, during and after. We also got to see what was being presented to the rest of the world through the Clinton News Network and we were appalled at the outright falsehoods being presented on CNN.

A good friend's father who lived in the UK was an outspoken critic of Serbia until he sat and watched the news when he was visiting her in Greece. He was shattered by what he learned when he realised how much he had been misled, just how far what he had been led to believe was from the truth of the situation.

I do not blame you for believing as you do because you are not at fault. You have been misled by a deliberate effort to demonise the Serbs and present the Albanians as the injured party. Are you aware that up until NATOs involvement in Kosovo, the KLA was classed by the USA as a terrorist organisation?

Two of my uncles travled to Bosnia to fight, so i do not need to be told what occured there. The one that made it home has told me all I would ever need to know. My other Uncle was one of the victums of Srebrenica massacre, committed by Serbians in which over 13,000 Bosnian and Muslim men were killed.

 

[prodromos]

Two of my uncles travled to Bosnia to fight, so i do not need to be told what occured there. The one that made it home has told me all I would ever need to know. My other Uncle was one of the victums of Srebrenica massacre, committed by Serbians in which over 13,000 Bosnian and Muslim men were killed.

Those Muslim men were sacrificed by their leaders to provide a reason for the Serbs to be attacked. The Muslim forces used the "Safe Haven" status of Srebenica as a base from which they launched terrorist attacks on the Serbs in the surrounding villages. They then abandoned an easily defensible position, leaving their women and children to the mercy of the enraged Serbs and retreated in a manner which left them wide open to attack.
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/surrender-1995.html

BTW, has that number of 13,000 dead ever been confirmed. There has been plenty of time to examine the supposed 'mass graves' photographed with pinpoint accuracy by US spy satellites, yet on the ground they seem to be having a lot of difficulty finding them.

What disturbs me the most about all the history of the Balkans is how quickly the US and the UK are willing to turn on their former allies. Hundreds of US and UK pilots shot down over Yugoslavia during WWII were rescued and kept safe from the Germans by Chetnik Serbs, yet they are now portrayed as bloodthirsty demons.

[edit] Official figures seem to place the number killed at Srebenica at under 8000