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What "rights" do homosexuals "deserve" to have -- WITH POLL!!

What "rights" do homosexuals "deserve" to have?

  • 1. Homosexuals should be eliminated from society once and for all. (Lev. 18:22)

  • 2. The right to exist but homosexuality should be criminalized & gays should be imprisoned for life.

  • 3. The right to exist but homosexuals should be declared mentally ill & institutionalized for life.

  • 4. The right to live wherever they want.

  • 5. #4, plus the right to work in specific, designated professions.

  • 6. #4, plus the right to work wherever they like.

  • 7. #6, but their relationships must not receive any legal recognition.

  • 8. #6, and their relationships should receive legal recognition.

  • 9. All the rights that straight people enjoy, except the right to marry their partners.

  • 10. All the rights that straight people enjoy, including the right to marry their partners.


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Apollo Celestio

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Telling those who refuse to repent to stop sinning will only make people mad. We're told to hold each other accountable though, right? We're told in scripture how to deal with sin in the church. We hold brethren and the lost to different standards.
 
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Well God MADE gay people gay, so your argument doesn't work.

If "orientation" was an sin in the eyes of God, He
a) would have spoken of gay/bi and transgender marriage in a negative light
and
b) wouldn't have made people gay
It's not mentioned in any light, all we get is universal condemnation of same sex sex.
 
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They have laws now that allow the state to indefinitely lock up child molestors and other sexual offenders. The Groene family was wiped out in Colorado after the state of Washington ignored the advice to keep Duncan locked up indefinitely.

If we can get gay sex to be outlawed again (as it is in the Bible)- there is no reason why they can't throw away the key on the perpetual offenders.
 
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Well God MADE gay people gay, so your argument doesn't work.

If "orientation" was an sin in the eyes of God, He
a) would have spoken of gay/bi and transgender marriage in a negative light
and
b) wouldn't have made people gay

God makes people- but I don't blame God when babys are born without brains or arms and I also do not blame God when someone has a confused sexual orientation.

God is not the reason why people lie and He is also not to blame for someone choosing to lead an objectively immoral sexual lifestyle.
 
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a) would have spoken of gay/bi and transgender marriage in a negative light
and

Jesus and the OT only speak of marriage between a man and a woman and Jesus makes clear the legality over marriage when he speaks on divorce.

Also, for the one millionth time:


Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders …
(1Cor 6:9)
 
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Where in your Holy Scriptures did my Holy God declare Himself a LIAR?

He never once declared homosexuality as good, nor acceptable...because it is fornication, and committed OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.

Homosexual "Christians" make an unholy god in their own image.
 
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Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders … (1Cor 6:9)

OFFENDERS. NOT people in a loving committed relationship.
 
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"Objectively"?

Maybe you should find a dictionary. There's NOTHING "objective" about bigotry.
I do not agree with sin nor do I choose to agree with lifestyles that perpetualy break the Lord's commandments.

Paul warned us about the sexually immoral and:


As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
(1 Tim 1-3)

If that makes me a biggot then I am a bigot because God commands it.
 
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OFFENDERS. NOT people in a loving committed relationship.
How about a loving commited sexual relationship between a 10 year old boy and a 50 year old man ?

You would have to agree that in that case it would be wrong (I hope).

So, you would also have to acknowledge that not every commited relationship has license from God or moral society.
 
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Howcome you changed what I said?
I know we are in agreement. I am just trying to figure out why
you quoted part of what I said and then changed a part of it.
I kept looking at it, trying, but I still couldn't figure it out. lol

What I said was:


If "orientation" was an option in the eyes of God, He
a) would have spoken of gay/bi and transgender marriage in a positive light
and
b) would have given us alternative bodies to use as we wish

The Lord NEVER spoke of anything outside a man and a woman
in marriage in a positive light. EVER. OT or NT

So we are agreed!



Jesus and the OT only speak of marriage between a man and a woman and Jesus makes clear the legality over marriage when he speaks on divorce.

Also, for the one millionth time:
 
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OFFENDERS. NOT people in a loving committed relationship.

"Loving", "committed" are still offensive to God. When you defy the God who made you, you cannot say you love Him and the idol of homosexuality as well. You cannot serve two masters.

He asks you to give up your sin--not embrace it.You must choose: Jesus Christ or homosexuality.

Those who choose homosexuality deny God.
 
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Actually that is not true from a Biblical standpoint.
Those who claim to be Christians are subject to exhortation
of other saints within the body.

See off the top of my head, 1 Corinthians chapter 5
as well as 2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Timothy 4:3-5,
James 5:19-20, Jude 1:20-22 just to name a few.



We are indeed told to 'go and sin no more'. This is good and honourable behaviour.

We are not, however, told to 'go and tell other people to sin no more'. This is neither good nor honourable behaviour.
 
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We are not, however, told to 'go and tell other people to sin no more'. This is neither good nor honourable behaviour.


As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
(1 Tim 1-3)

Have you ever even read the Bible ?
 
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I was skimming and thought you were one of them.

sorry.
 
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